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Message started by Neilap on 04/10/16 at 20:42:02

Title: Battery replacement
Post by Neilap on 04/10/16 at 20:42:02

What brand do you go for, for a replacement battery? I discovered that bike batteries do not appreciate winter.

Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by gizzo on 04/10/16 at 20:46:13

SBS Powersports lithium

Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by KennyG on 04/10/16 at 20:49:15

Neil,

You will find a hundred different opinions on this subject.

I personally like the YUASA Maintenance Free Battery and a Battery Tender Jr..

I leave my bike on the battery tender when ever I am not riding. You will find another hundred opinions on this subject.

Amazon has the best prices.

http://www.amazon.com/Yuasa-YUAM62H4L-YTX14AHL-BS-Battery/dp/B0018F3MP6/ref=au_as_r?_encoding=UTF8&Make=Suzuki%7C1&Model=S40%20Boulevard%7C19392&Year=2013%7C2013&ie=UTF8&n=15684181&s=automotive&vehicleId=1&vehicleType=motorcycle

http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Tender-021-0123-Junior-Charger/dp/B000CITK8S/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1460346624&sr=1-1&keywords=battery+tender+jr

Kenny G

Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by chzeckmate on 04/11/16 at 00:43:45

Absorbed Glass Mat is the best value in my book. Last a lot longer and drains a lot slower than traditional batteries, but still budget friendly and worry free. Lithium ion batteries are coming down in price lately. If you can find one at a good price, I'd go with that. Those are more efficient and also worry free.

Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by Paladin. on 04/11/16 at 04:27:39

Blog post August 15, 2004 (http://www.dslretorts.com/Paladin/archives/000640.html) Got the Savage. Battery partially dead, replaced about October, 2004. Got a Yuasa battery, came dry, acid, fill, charge, ride next day.

Blog post April 08, 2008 (http://www.dslretorts.com/Paladin/archives/002527.html) In the cage. "Did you know that letting a battery go totally flat three times in three years is a good way to kill it? I knew that. Didn't let it stop me!"

Less than 4 years with a Yuasa flooded battery. Third time letting the battery go flat totally killed it -- rode home, shut down, try to start, totally dead after a 5 mile ride. Lancer had posted re: Optima AGM batteries -- looked it up, interesting! When I killed the battery I bought a "Big Crank" AGM battery (http://www.batterymart.com/p-Big-Crank-ETX12-Battery.html). It arrived from UPS, arrived sealed and charged and the bike was running in five minutes.

The Savage has that stupid kick stand thingy that shuts off the motor. Unfortunately I kept forgetting the key. 'Specially in '10 when I was dying. I had flatten the battery at least eight times. Yet in January '13 the battery still was working just fine, capable of starting the motorcycle after letting it sitting for weeks.

I LIKE AGM batteries.

Batteries can be good or cheap. Not both. The good batteries use virgin lead, pure lead. Chinese batteries can use recycled lead, not pure, not as good. You do not need an unreliable battery.

Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by Dave on 04/11/16 at 05:17:28

Glass matt (AGM), and if you can find one made in Japan or the US....they are preferable to the ones made in China.

AGM batteries are not flexible when it comes to abuse - letting them go flat or charging them with too many amps will kill the battery quickly.

Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by norm92de on 04/11/16 at 07:54:11

My 2 cents worth.

I agree with KennyG. Not the cheapest but a great solution. I have that set up on my Triumph and when the time comes I will go with that on my S40. :)

Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by Dave on 04/11/16 at 07:59:24

40415C43171C4A4B2E0 wrote:

My 2 cents worth.

I agree with KennyG. Not the cheapest but a great solution. I have that set up on my Triumph and when the time comes I will go with that on my S40. :)

Yep.....and it is made in the USA!

http://www.amazon.com/Yuasa-YUAM62H4L-YTX14AHL-BS-Battery/dp/B0018F3MP6/ref=au_as_r?_encoding=UTF8&Make=Suzuki|1&Model=S40%20Boulevard|19392&Year=2013|2013&ie=UTF8&n=15684181&s=automotive&vehicleId=1&vehicleType=motorcycle

Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by Art Webb on 04/11/16 at 08:47:11

I just buy em at WalMart
despite what folks say about chinese stuff, I haven't had a problem
I'll just repeat this again
it is quite possible for the chinese made stuff be horrible
it is quite possible for the chinese stuff to be better than american made
It's not the chinese who decide this, it's the folks who pay them to make the products
CAP barbell, made in china: weights can be off by a few lbs, bars rotate horribly, KBs are off balance and handles suck
Ader KBs, made in china: best KB you can buy, bar none
Diference? Ader insists on the highest quality, and check the product rigoorously
it's the company who orders the product that decides the quality of the final product, not the chinese
heck, most of the parts used by car makers are made in China or Mexico

Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by KennyG on 04/11/16 at 09:03:59

YUASA batteries are now made in Reading Pennsylvania at a former Exide factory.

Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by Dave on 04/11/16 at 09:07:08

Well if you are buying a Chinese made battery.....don't buy it mail order. Buy it local so you can get a replacement easily if it fails in the warranty period.

My first BikeMaster AGM battery (made in China) lasted 2 weeks before it failed - the warranty replacement lasted several years. The Japanese Yuasa battery in the Honda ST lasted 15 years!

Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by Art Webb on 04/11/16 at 09:50:22

WalMart battery in my Lumina was 8 years old when i sold it, still going strong
I won't buy any battery via mail order

Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by KennyG on 04/11/16 at 09:58:14

Dave,

My 1973 Norton, which I personally picked up from the dealer in London, came with a Japanese made Yuasa battery.

Before the Battery Tender was available my brother made a trickle charger, from maybe a Heath Kit. As soon as I parked the Norton in the garage I plugged in the charger. When I sold the Norton in 2005 it still had the original factory battery in it. Possibly not having an electric starter helped with the longevity.

I am a believer in Yuasa Batteries, but now that they are made here I am not 100% certain how long it will last. At my age it doesn't have to last 30 years....LOL

Kenny G

Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by stewmills on 04/11/16 at 12:00:17

AGM!

I got one locally at Adv Auto (big discount if you have the coupon code and order online first and then run down to the store and pick-up locally). Mine is going into the 3rd season and it's great. Just make sure to have the store test it before you leave. My first one was a dud. It happens!

Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by norm92de on 04/11/16 at 13:00:48

FWIW, as an aviator I'm not fan of LI batteries.

It gets awfully lonely at 40K feet when the fire warning goes off and you know that, at best, you are 20 minutes from landing! Years ago we had the same issue with Nicads. At least one Lear crashed because of a thermal runaway. The bat. was/is located directly over the control cables!

Sorry for straying off subject.

Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by chzeckmate on 04/11/16 at 13:47:01

I know a lot of people who swear by one brand or another. Some say Yuasa, some say Duralast, others say ACDelco. It's comforting to have a brand you favor. That's how consumerism works. Let's be real.

Advance Auto, Autozone, and Walmart are all Johnson Controls batteries, whose branding also includes Duralast, Kirkland, and Motorcraft. Sears Diehard brand can be found on Johnson Controls batteries as well as Exide batteries whose branding includes Champion, Napa, and some Everstart batteries. Then you have Delphi who is actually owned by Johnson Controls now (since 2007) branding ACDelco, O'reilly, and some Everstart batteries...The thing is a big circle jerk.

The bottom line is these guys are all going to produce products that are using the same technology and they'll be equally competitive because they want your business. Don't get fooled into paying extra because a battery says "Platinum Series" or "Super Awesome". Get a good value and a good warranty. If the thing fails use the warranty. Don't pay extra unless you're getting something extra.

AGM is the best value in my book and I agree with Dave, stick with US made batteries. Paladin struck the nail on the head with, Batteries can be good or cheap. Not both.

Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by Zonablazer on 04/12/16 at 13:42:00

I purchased a YB14L-A2 from Amazon to get my beast running again. This is a VERY nice battery. It's not expensive and works great.

http://www.amazon.com/YB14L-A2-Performance-Power-Sports-Battery/dp/B00I96JZU8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by DesertRat on 04/13/16 at 19:29:50

06393F3825220A4C0 wrote:

awesome points chzeckmate ... I try to explain this concept to peers in my business classes and they just look at me like ::)

let them waste money ...