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Message started by raydawg on 03/22/16 at 18:23:32

Title: Explain.......
Post by raydawg on 03/22/16 at 18:23:32

Saw the Trumper getting called out by using Brussels to promote himself/ideas, bad, bad, bad.....

But Obama used a terrorist attack to promote himself/idea re: gun control, and that's kosher?

Really, what is the difference?

Title: Re: Explain.......
Post by pg on 03/22/16 at 18:37:21

What I'm curious to see is how many bombings will it take to bend the will of the left.  How many people need to die before they say this is unacceptable.  

OK, how about it Bot?

Best regards,

Title: Re: Explain.......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/22/16 at 18:42:37

Really? You SERIOUSLY don't see it?
All right, I'll do it,, dad gummitt..
Okay
Obama points to a terrorist attack, demands power to keep us safe.

He loves YOU.

Trump points to a terrorist attack, demands power to keep us safe.

He hates Muslims.

Doesn't matter what he says, how reasonable it is, it's xenophobic hatred.
Besides, have they actually Done anything wrong?

Title: Re: Explain.......
Post by Serowbot on 03/22/16 at 18:45:19

Depends on how soft you wanna' be on the Constitution...

Singling out one group of people based on their religion is against the Constitution...
How serious is your stand, JOG?...  
Does the Constitution protect everyone or just white, Christian, people?...

Title: Re: Explain.......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/22/16 at 18:52:20

It's not a suicide pact. We aren't expected to import people who hate us. The C protects US, not foreign people.
IF they are being
Persecuted
in their country, they have grounds.
Muslims ARE persecuting Christians.
And, best I can see, around THREE PERCENT of the immigrants are Christian.

I'm gonna stick with good sense. I will try to not be shocked when you go a different direction.

Title: Re: Explain.......
Post by pg on 03/22/16 at 19:22:08


7D6B7C61796C617A0E0 wrote:
 
Does the Constitution protect everyone or just white, Christian, people?...


The SPLC doesn't have a designation for people of Middle Eastern ethnicity who promote Radical Islam.  Half the groups on there were specifically for Christian / White people and they even had a designation just for Catholics.  So who is being protected?

Best regards,

Title: Re: Explain.......
Post by WebsterMark on 03/22/16 at 19:25:44


6E786F726A7F72691D0 wrote:
Depends on how soft you wanna' be on the Constitution...

Singling out one group of people based on their religion is against the Constitution...


You mean like forcing the Catholic nuns to  be complicit in birth control/abortifacients?

Title: Re: Explain.......
Post by oldNslow on 03/22/16 at 19:33:17


Quote:
Does the Constitution protect everyone or just white, Christian, people?...



The Constitution is supposed to protect the citizens of this republic from being abused by said republic's government. It grants that government the authority to defend the republic from enemies foreign and domestic. The government we have now is not interested in doing that. It is only interested in protecting itself.  In case that's not clear, let me put it like this; the government, and the republic which it is supposed to serve, are not the same thing. What is good for the government is not necessarily what is good for the country.   I don't think a lot of folks understand that.

Title: Re: Explain.......
Post by DesertRat on 03/22/16 at 22:42:23


Quote:
The Constitution is supposed to protect the citizens of this republic from being abused by said republic's government. It grants that government the authority to defend the republic from enemies foreign and domestic. The government we have now is not interested in doing that. It is only interested in protecting itself.  In case that's not clear, let me put it like this; the government, and the republic which it is supposed to serve, are not the same thing. What is good for the government is not necessarily what is good for the country.   I don't think a lot of folks understand that.



When I was in school -
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

When I was in scouts -
On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.

When I joined the Army -
I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Title: Re: Explain.......
Post by verslagen1 on 03/22/16 at 22:54:47

From what I heard...
Trump said it right, keep people out till we got it figured out.
Cruz said it wrong, calls for police to patrol Muslim neighborhoods.
Clinton said, we can do it thru the internet.
Sanders said something like stay the course.
And Obama said, Hey I'm in Cuba, look at me.

Title: Re: Explain.......
Post by Serowbot on 03/22/16 at 23:37:02

Obama nailed it... ;D

Title: Re: Explain.......
Post by raydawg on 03/23/16 at 03:42:53

So I have freedom of expression re: my religion then, and anybody who tries to stop me, because it bugs them, is what....

In violations?

Title: Re: Explain.......
Post by oldNslow on 03/23/16 at 05:59:17


Quote:
I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."


Yup. I swore the same oath. Tough to uphold though if the first statement I highlighted is contradicted by the  orders issued per the second highlighted section..

If I remember the UCMJ correctly it only demands obedience to  "Lawful orders".

Title: Re: Explain.......
Post by DesertRat on 03/23/16 at 08:11:50

yup oldNslow,
I also remember why it's so important to obey "lawful orders". (Nuremberg trials)

Title: Re: Explain.......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/23/16 at 08:39:24

Lawful orders..

You carry out Unlawful Orders and you could be committing a war crime.

Re: Religious activity, you have the right to express your faith anywhere, any time.
The
Wall of separation between church and state
Is more of a diode. I can pray, we, the community, can meet on public property and put on a Christmas play on public property.
It IS ours, after all. The State can't Tell me what church to go to or what I must or must not believe. Nor is there any religious test or requirement to hold office, though, considering the
Campaign Lies we are all too familiar with, I keep getting assured by the criminals in DC that they are Christians, for the most part. Occasionally someone will deviate from that course.
I wonder what Hillary is,,,Wicca?
Since they don't have any engine and since they arent actually gliders/ sailplanes , is there any kinda license needed to fly a broom?

They were just out for a walk, someone mentioned that blasted You Tube video,,and, they got upset about it and they were already down by Ambassador Stephens place and it just spontaneously turned into a full scale riot. A few of them just happened to have their RPGs and grenades with them, and of course there were rifles and handguns, we all know how we want to feel safe when we go for walks with our fifty best friends..
Besides, what Difference does it Make at this point?

Ahh did not haave sex with that woman.

Well, that depends on what your definition of is is.

Pretty sure they're solid Christians.



Title: Re: Explain.......
Post by Serowbot on 03/23/16 at 08:44:35


352A2C2B3631003000382A266D5F0 wrote:
I wonder what Hillary is,,,Wicca?
Since they don't have any engine and since they arent actually gliders/ sailplanes , is there any kinda license needed to fly a broom?


Cruz and Trump are Satanists... I can tell by the eyes... :-?

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