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Message started by DesertRat on 03/05/16 at 19:34:57

Title: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by DesertRat on 03/05/16 at 19:34:57

Anyone know of other brands and models that have similar specs as our S40's?

With similar weight, ride height, width, etc? Increased CC's would be nice without the 300 lbs weight difference. >:(

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Oldfeller on 03/05/16 at 20:16:58

I'll take a poke at it.

Kawasaki Vulcan S is coming up on the radar screen as "short legged, low seat height" enough for us Savagers, with 30 additional hp and more torque and similar small iight handling around town and in the curvies.

Engine is a compact twin, is same displacement sized but more modern fuel injected, etc. Has 60 hp on tap, so it can do open road work better than Savage can do.

Ergo fit means the bike can Really FIT you ..... this is noted as a real advantage.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by DesertRat on 03/05/16 at 20:38:48

Thanks Oldfeller.

Me thinks that I'm not gonna find a bike with similar curb weight.

Vulcan S-series :
Curb Weight 498 lbs

S40:
Curb Weight 381 lbs

117 lbs difference, like riding 2up on the S40

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by KennyG on 03/05/16 at 20:47:49

Desert Rat & Oldfeller,

Anything much improved over the Savage usually weighs at least a 100 lbs more.

I like the Yamaha bolt too, but again the weight is way up there for the strong young fellas. As soon as anything currently manufactured gets any horsepower it is either a sport bike or a heavy cruiser.

May as well go for a Sportster if one handle the weight.....

Kenny G

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Serowbot on 03/05/16 at 21:19:52

MotoGuzzi V7... light weight, more power, and sexy...
... how wide can you open your wallet?... :-?

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by MMRanch on 03/05/16 at 21:46:07

50 HP. under 400 #

http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-reviews/moto-guzzi/2014-moto-guzzi-v7-special-ar161793.html#main

I still like my Savage ! :)
Fact is I run my S-40 (140/90) at 70 mph regularly . I'll admit that is close to the top of my comfort range for wind buffing and such and its also close to the top of what my bike is comfortable doing --- so we match up perty close !

;)

The Suzuki 650 trail bike is about 45 HP :-? I think ? how would one of them be if it was lowered down outa the wind some ?

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by KennyG on 03/05/16 at 22:01:13

Serowbot,

You are talking Champagne to guys on a beer budget.....LOL

Kenny G

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by DesertRat on 03/05/16 at 22:24:37

I'm a student, I can't afford beer unless it's the $5 solo cup shindig ...

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by DesertRat on 03/05/16 at 22:26:23

514351434E5D525F541C0 wrote:

50 HP. under 400 #

http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-reviews/moto-guzzi/2014-moto-guzzi-v7-special-ar161793.html#main

from the article:

Touring bikes don’t have to be as big as bulldozers.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by jcstokes on 03/06/16 at 00:32:07

Kenny G, I would like the Yamaha Bolt as well but the twenty six or so extra bhp must be compensated by stronger heavier frame and so on and extra money. I sat on one once and the air box seemed to hit my knee, but I suppose you would get used to it, then there's silly digital instruments on a semi retro styled bike.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Oldfeller on 03/06/16 at 06:16:25

If you are looking more hp, lighter weight, better performance than the Savage, there is only one bike out there.

KTM Duke 390

Issue becomes it is a little bitty sports bike. If that isn't what you want, tough -- that's what it is.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by oldNslow on 03/06/16 at 07:51:32

The Savage/ S40 is a pretty unique motorcycle actually. There isn't anything out there directly. comparable IMO.

However if similar performance is the criteria this one comes to mind. Less expensive, a bit lighter, less than half the displacement but almost as much HP. And it's a thumper.

http://powersports.honda.com/2015/cb300f.aspx

I'm pretty sure the KTM 390 will out perform it by a significant margin, but you can probably actually find one of these to buy. The only KTM dealer within 100 miles of me got 2 390 Dukes last year, sold both, and has no idea when he might get any more :(

The little Honda also has three things that I wish my Suzuki had, A tripmeter (I think it might have a fuel gauge or a least a low fuel warning light) cast wheels/tubeless tires - pick up a nail and you've at least got a fighting chance of plugging the tire and getting home without a truck or tow) and somewhat better range on a tank of gas.

I'm not in love with the looks, but if I was looking for a new bike to do the kind of riding I do on my S40 this one would be on my short list. Ya, cant tell what it looks like when you're riding it anyway.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by KennyG on 03/06/16 at 07:59:10

I have not yet tried to sit on a 390 Duke.

The other KTMs that I have tried sat too tall for me to get my leg over them without standing on a milk crate.

Kenny G

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Art Webb on 03/06/16 at 08:27:48

4D6368457467756E060 wrote:

I have not yet tried to sit on a 390 Duke.

The other KTMs that I have tried sat too tall for me to get my leg over them without standing on a milk crate.

Kenny G

on tall bikes I step on the standside peg and swing over, like mounting a horse
that's how a 30" inseam gets on a 34" tall seat

how low a seat height you need?
used Ninja 500R, 500cc, 50 horsepower, six speed, (will do over 125) 30" seat height, under 400lb
as far as cruisers, you won't find a bigger one that the S40 with as light a weight, that's not what cruisers are about

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Oldfeller on 03/06/16 at 08:46:51

STATEMENT: INDIA IS THE HOME OF MOTORCYCLING NOW, not the USA and not Japan

India builds them all now, and they have the BIGGEST fan population of bike riders in the world now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTlrJJjE3mo

Get past the broken english, these guys really do get into the details very very well.

What can they do and how fast can they do it? This tells the tale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwf2rCDGXcE

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by jcstokes on 03/06/16 at 09:10:21

Did you hear what they said about IRC tyres ?

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Ruttly on 03/06/16 at 10:12:37

I'm going to throw the Yamaha SR400/SR500 in that ring! Still a high quality big single with some classic sporty looks !

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by DesertRat on 03/06/16 at 10:47:59

after a fairly exhaustive search of current cruiser offerings, I've realized it's a pipe dream.

If I want more HP, modern FI, at around the same curb weight, body width and ride height, it ain't gonna happen w/o a significant increase in weight. 4 outta 5, not sure I'm willing to give up the "zippy" spirit of the S40.

IT'S WAY TOO FUN TO GIVE UP!

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by KennyG on 03/06/16 at 11:53:59

I too would be willing to buy a Yamaha SR400, but the time and expense involved in owning two motorcycles is all I can handle for the immediate future.

The HOA here where I live already frowns on giving me a permit to park one automobile in the driveway overnight.

Kenny G

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by gizzo on 03/06/16 at 12:37:41

Couple of weird ones: Yamaha virago 535: 41 hp, 180ish kg. Low seat hight, pretty comfy.
Ducati Pantah TL: touring version of the SL Pantah. 50ish hp, 170something kg. Flat bars , nice seat and low enough seat height. Ugly as sin but can be had cheap. Very reliable engine and same engine/ chassis as the sport version.

Both are oldies.

Oh yer...Enfield Bullet, if you have a sense of humour.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Oldfeller on 03/06/16 at 12:43:42

I found the Virago 535 and actually went and bought one and rode it along with the Savage.

The Virago ate the stock Savage up easily, but then the Stage 1 cammed Savage ate up the Virago 535, so the Virago 535 eventually went away to unnecessary used bike land .....

So yes, unless I want to buy a Duke 390 or a Vulcan S, that old Savage bike out in my garage is the very best one for me out there at this time.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by DesertRat on 03/06/16 at 12:47:13

Oldfeller, I remember my step-dad owned a Virago 535 from back in the day. He rode that bike for his hour commute in 120* F weather down in Yuma, AZ. He would come home with 2nd degree burns on any skin exposed. My guess is that's why he drank so much beer after work!!! :o

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Gus on 03/06/16 at 13:33:16

I kinda like that Moto Guzzi that is a nice bike.

This might be a bit heavy for some of you gents but it's quite a leap from the "small" LS650.

It is a thumper! Introducing the NSU2000

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Gus on 03/06/16 at 13:49:06

Here is the link to info. of. The above bike.

http://thekneeslider.com/nsu-2000cc-single-cylinder-motorcycle/

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by KennyG on 03/06/16 at 14:00:11

J C

I couldn't find any mention of your comment "Did you hear what they said about IRC tyres?"

I just replaced my IRC tires with Shenko 230s.

On dry roads I though the IRCs were OK.

Kenny G

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by jcstokes on 03/06/16 at 14:19:05

Kenny G I don't think the Indian testers in the first video had much time for them. I forget what bike had them, possibly the Ninja but there is a short clip of someone holding a cigarette lighter against the rear one to "warm it up". There was also a remark about them lasting a month.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by gizzo on 03/06/16 at 15:34:24

47646C6E6D64646D7A080 wrote:

Yes, they build a lot of bikes. But, the average Indian rider (the ones you see on the interwebs) can't ride to save his life, is afraid of the front brake, doesn't understand build quality and is trying and failing to imitate being a western Hipster. A lot of the road tests I've seen are runs along a straight road with no cornering being done, then a complaint about hard seats, poor riding comfort and vibration, or not enough vibration, or too much fuel consumption or something. And mostly really poor copycat western try-hard journalism. I don't put much stock in anything an Indian has to say on the subject of motorcycles. That vid was typical: a stright line speed run passed off as a definitive comparison. They're hopeless. (BTW those speeds were in KPH, not MPH in case anyone didn't know).
I very quickly skipped through the powerdrift video with the sound down (at work) and wasn't impressed with that either. No special cornering skills there. Nothing to trouble a tyre and any handling problems would more likely been down to lack of talent. Big chicken strips on the tyres, anyway.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Oldfeller on 03/06/16 at 19:58:43

Reminds me of us back in the 60's and 70's, huh?

India is where they are all built now -- and the Indian motorcycle press are moving the models around now with these inane comments.

:)

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by KennyG on 03/06/16 at 20:13:13

Old Feller,

Reminiscent of the Japanese Invasion.

Kenny G

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by gizzo on 03/06/16 at 22:20:55

I wasn't around then. Was the journalism surrounding the first wave of Japan's bikes as asinine as India's journalism?

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by KennyG on 03/06/16 at 23:09:04

Gizzo,

The little bit that I remember of The Invasion was that their advertising stressed that they were not like our Harley and Indian riders. The mechanics in their shops wore uniforms, white shirts and blue trousers, and there was no leather to be found anywhere in the shop or showroom.

No one ever dreamed that their bikes would eventually set the world standard for manufacturing motorcycles.......

And the Germans gave us the Volkswagen......LOL

Kenny G

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Kruzader on 03/06/16 at 23:22:33

I was really close on picking up an Indian Scout. If your going for new and price, then you can take the Indian Scout 69. One of these 2 is going to be my second bike.

But for the price and to comfortably learn about bikes, I love my S40

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Dave on 03/07/16 at 05:06:10

There are a lot of bikes that offer better performance - but you have to accept a bit more weight and a different riding style. If you have the money the Indian Scout, Yamaha Bolt, 883 Sportster, Kawasaki Vulcan S are all possible choices...the Virago S might be the most nimble one of the bunch. If money is a bit more of an obstacle, the Suzuki SV650 and other "naked" bikes are very affordable and are not very heavy, and they can be found used and are very affordable. The older EX500 Kawasaki looks like a sport bike - but the seating position is not very aggressive and it sits low and is comfortable. If you can get past the looks and the fact that it will be an older bike - the Honda Pacific Coast has a very loyal following, and it has a built in trunk (I considered one but I just didn't like the looks of the rear trunk).

With a bit of work and some money - you can increase the HP and change the gearing, and make the Savage perform a lot better on the highway. A Wiseco piston, Stage 1 or 3 cam, a little work on the cylinder head exhaust port, a Kawasaki front pulley, and a 140/90-15 rear tire will make the bike much nicer to ride at highway speeds.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Gus on 03/07/16 at 07:06:04

Dave, I was looking real hard at the Pacific Coast as an older bike but couldn't get past all the plastic and what you'd have if you ever dumped it or bumped into something; God forbid!

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Art Webb on 03/07/16 at 08:21:19

I wasn't around for the Japanese invasion but I've seen the adds
'you meet the nicest people on a Honda' etc
now they mostly make 'kill yourself' bikes and wannabe Harleys
I like the SR 400, but it needs more motor
the EX500 is indeed more comfy than it looks, and the PC is one of the best kept secrets of motorcycling, being a very good bike that gets no love due primarily to that bubble butt
I wish the true Standard would come back in a big way, but 'muricans are too obsessed with looking 'badass' while rolling on the boulevard

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Gus on 03/07/16 at 08:27:03

7E6D6B687A7D7D1F0 wrote:

I wish the true Standard would come back in a big way, but 'muricans are too obsessed with looking 'badass' while rolling on the boulevard

I'm with you here Art

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Dave on 03/07/16 at 09:19:10

46495E43484015484B4315270 wrote:

Dave, I was looking real hard at the Pacific Coast as an older bike but couldn't get past all the plastic and what you'd have if you ever dumped it or bumped into something; God forbid!

The Pacific Coast is a much better fit for my 30" inseam than the Gold Wing or the ST1100. I sat on one and it fit me really nicely. The back just looked too much like a Scooter to me, and I couldn't see any good way to expand the luggage volume beyond what fit in the built in trunk.

You are probably right.....any form of hard tipover might break quite a bit of "Tupperwear" on that bike. I don't know if you can still buy the body parts new from Honda.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by badwolf on 03/07/16 at 09:57:15

OK I have to throw in my 2 cents as a PC800 owner. In 66k I have not dropped it, so no issues with the ''tupperware''. I have a couple mounting tabs broken, but I'll get around to glassing them back together someday. When you are riding it it looks fine. The locking trunk on the back is the best cargo space I've ever had on a m/c. It IS a pain when people presume it is a scooter! Passengers like the seat, compared to a little pad on the back of a harley. They are basically the station wagon of m/c's. Handy and do the job without a problem, but get no respect. Or maybe the Rodney Dangerfield of m/c's, NO RESPECT!!!
As for replacing bodywork on ALL m/c's, that is a field people with 3D printers should be jumping into. The factory replacement prices are insane!

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Art Webb on 03/07/16 at 10:16:31

2426352B35372F262E35470 wrote:

Agree with each and every single point of this post, they are great practical bike that people dis because of the looks
I wanted one when they came out, and I still want one, depending on if I like the way they ride, do I ever get a chance to try one out

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Gus on 03/07/16 at 11:04:16

Again on the Pacific Coast---If it had been a thumper that would have been where I folded. I'd a bought the darn thing plastic and all.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by springman on 03/07/16 at 15:06:42

If I had the money to spend the Indian Scout or the Scout 66 are 2 bikes that I would surely consider. But, not having that kind of disposable income at this time, I would definitely consider the Kawasaki Ninja 500 or the Suzuki GS500 if I wanted a bit more power and highway cruising ability. The Honda Shadow Spirit 1100 also appeals to me, but that is a good 200 lbs. heavier. It is fun to dream! ;D

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Dave on 03/08/16 at 05:12:23

Here is a nice looking Kawasaki EX500 with low miles for $ 1,800.

This one is an older one (28 years old) -and the 1994-2009 models have some improvements that make them a bit more reliable and the 16" wheels were changed to 17" wheels which makes for more tire options.

https://louisville.craigslist.org/mcy/5450472248.html

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Art Webb on 03/08/16 at 07:09:35

MC prices must be higher in KY than TX, my 2007 cost me 2700, anmd was literally in mint condition, aside from needing carbs cleaned (seems to be common with EXs for sale) with only 1800 miles on it

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by springman on 03/08/16 at 10:36:14

That is a nice looking Ninja 500. I have to admit though that if I ever do pull the trigger on that I would prefer one that is not quite that old. I have seen some very nice low mileage (under 15k miles) in the Houston craigslist on occasion in the $1800 to $2500 range. But the only time I am less than happy on the S40 is on the highway, and generally I avoid the highway if at all possible. And I really do not want the temptation of going 100+ mph.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Dave on 03/08/16 at 10:50:32

36252320323535570 wrote:

MC prices must be higher in KY than TX,

When I look at Craigslist prices...they do tend to be higher in the areas around a City, and the prices are lower in the rural areas.

And yes.....if I was going to buy an EX500.....I would want to get as new of one as I could. Still....that one I posted is an awful nice motorcycle, and I betcha you could get it for $ 1,500 cash, and it would give you a whole lot of bang for your bucks!

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by old.indian on 03/08/16 at 12:05:30

I'm older than I thought. :-/ I've always had standard (naked) motorcycles. Windshield and crash bars (with foot pegs) added for long trips. Luggage etc. sat on rear seat and tail light brace attached to sissy bar with bungee cords I never had a pair of saddlebags until the set that came with this bike. I DID almost buy a CB1100 a few months ago until the family CFO pointed out that we need some new floor coverings....... :-[

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by badwolf on 03/08/16 at 12:13:11

Somehow I just don't think it would be. the same.

https://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/mcy/5432402945.html

I'll stick with my S40.
BMW's are spose to 2 cylinders down there flat.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by gizzo on 03/08/16 at 12:34:11

Been looking at a few gs500 for my offspring's boyfriend. They're nice, in a simple, bombproof kind of way. We should be able to get a mint, low km one for around 3.5k. If he doesn't blow his wad on something stupid. We're looking at doing a quick neo-cafe build for his first road bike.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by MMRanch on 03/08/16 at 18:01:19

SpringMan

My nephew has a GS500 (the one who went Dragon ridding with us). He claims he has had it at 125 mph and get 55 mpg on local rides . I'll bet if he get 55 then I would get 65 mpg (the young man rides like a bat out of is cage all the time ) !

Has anybody noticed Triumph is making standard motorcycles ? and Scramblers ,

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Art Webb on 03/08/16 at 18:19:57

Triumph, lucas electrics
Lucas, the prince of darkness

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by MMRanch on 03/08/16 at 18:48:33

Art : Triumph, lucas electrics
Lucas, the prince of darkness

Surely they are not still on the BLINK system ? The Speed Master had my eye till I saw the Chain on the secondary drive ! But the Scrambler still makes me duel when I see one . ::)

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Art Webb on 03/08/16 at 20:55:52

Probably they are not
Make no mistake, I LOVE standards, and I love the looks of the triumphs you mentioned, but I have been left on the side of the road by the price of darkness so many times I remain skeptical

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by jcstokes on 03/08/16 at 22:04:50

I'm not sure if the POD is still alive, I have seen stuff made under the brand, but it's for 1950's - '80's English cars. I think the brand has been brought by someone. As far as I'm aware the POD started out as a lamp maker and gravitated to electrics, when kerosene lamps became unfashionable.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by DesertRat on 03/08/16 at 22:39:20

524052404D5E515C571F0 wrote:

Has anybody noticed Triumph is making standard motorcycles and Scramblers?

yup, they're beautiful too. A couple in the motorcycle parking at school. Spots are reserved for professors and I sneak in and park around all these new shiny bikes with my beat up dirty savage. ;D

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by MMRanch on 03/09/16 at 21:53:19

DR.

I noticed your is an 06 , mine is an 05 with 23,000 + miles , not ragged out - but not new and scratch-less either ! I do keep it clean (kinda) ::) .

I'm sure it will be needing one of those super tough cam chains when they are available. It already got a version of the Versey adjuster but everything wears out sometime !

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by DesertRat on 03/09/16 at 22:03:42

MMRanch, I JUST washed my bike a couple days ago, it's been MONTHS since she had a bath and I ride everyday. Now she's all taken apart ready for sanding and a new paint job. :D

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Gus on 03/10/16 at 05:12:37

I read a fairly comprehensive review/comparison between the Savage, the RE Thunderbird 500 and the Yamaha 500. There was graphs and all that happy stuff. Now I can't find it. I was fairly impressed with the fuel injected Thunderbird. It is the heaviest of the 3 but I wouldn't hold that against it. I just wish I could find that review again. They were all nice bikes.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by DesertRat on 03/10/16 at 11:16:31

Gus, I couldn't find a Yamaha cruiser at 500cc's -700cc ... their site doesn't list the Vstar 650

but did compare this:

http://motorcycles.axlegeeks.com/compare/1111-1353-2132/2012-Royal-Enfield-Thunderbird-Twinspark-vs-2013-Suzuki-Boulevard-S40-vs-2015-Yamaha-SR400

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Gus on 03/10/16 at 15:06:07

Rat, your right about the Yamaha 400. That was an error on my part. I'll have to get on the desk top at home and try to find it again. That review was very informative; broken down into paragraphs about cornering, horsepower and what not. Comparing all three in every paragraph. It's unfortunate there are not mre singles to choose from.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Jasbee on 03/10/16 at 15:35:44

How about the GR650? (Maybe known as Tempter in the US). The photo below is from 1987.

S40 vs (GR650): air cooled single (air cooled twin), 23 kW (37), 50 Nm (51), wet wgt 173 Kg (197), wheelbase 1480 mm (1430), wire wheels (ditto), front tyre 100/90 x 19 (ditto), rear 140/80 x 15 (130/90 x 16).

The GR was sold from 1983, for only ~ 5 years in Aus. But they were a good honest cheap bike. I owned two, and clocked up 81,000 kms in total. If you could find one second hand now, I figure it would be very inexpensive.

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by DesertRat on 03/10/16 at 17:13:47

Jasbee, nice older bike

bobbed out beauty -

http://www.ellaspede.com/portfolio/eb011-1984-suzuki-gr650/

http://www.ellaspede.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/EB011-image2-900x6001.jpg

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by springman on 03/10/16 at 19:25:19

Wow. I am not much of a cafe racer or bobber type, but that bike is absolutely beautiful. Job well done!

Title: Re: Similar specs to our bikes from others?
Post by Jasbee on 03/10/16 at 23:05:13

DesertRat,

That's a beautiful GR. I've never seen a GR altered in any way other than just different bars and mufflers. Come to think of it, it's a long time since I've seen one at all; not many were sold in Aus; I had two, and traded them both in on a VX800 a long time ago (1991).

Jasbee