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Message started by raydawg on 03/03/16 at 05:18:52

Title: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by raydawg on 03/03/16 at 05:18:52

I m still trying to chew on, why Trump.....????
And I get the anger and frustration at the current political climate.
Many in both sides of the isle, and especially those independents that have stayed fluid and not beholden to party propaganda.
I get it!
But in my pondering I have come to realize he has done one thing that no mainstream repub candidate has been able, or willing to do, and that is out retorical the left at painting the opposition with exagerates lips....

If you look at some of the radical claims they have assigned the repubs, it forced them into a defensive mode where they lost the attack position/ability, as they always weigh the risk before speak....

The Donald has perfected the lefts tabloidzation of campaigning and it seems to be working.
Will it hold one on one with Clinton, I dunno, will people care when they cry foul for picking on a woman?

Oh well, it will be grand entertainment, and I am pretty sure those who really pull the strings know how to jerk them, regardless of which puppet wins  ;D

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/03/16 at 07:13:00

I call the whole shadowboxing . The voting machines aren't secure. The MIC, banks, globalists all, know that nobody who would actually change the course of the country can be allowed to win. Trump would deal and continue the direction and get richer. Crruz SAYS all the right things, but I don't trust him. Hillary is a known quantity for them AND was front runner when Obama and she met with the Bilderbergers, and stepped back and let Obama win. She's next. And NO trade deals will be repealed. Corporate taxes WILL continue to drive our jobs overseas. Constant war and mounting debt will be the norm.


Maybe we get Trump with Hillary VP.

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by Serowbot on 03/03/16 at 07:53:37

You want jobs to come back here?... you need to be willing to work for 60 cents an hour...
That'll bring the jobs back... ::)

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by old.indian on 03/03/16 at 08:05:41


445B5D5A4740714171495B571C2E0 wrote:
I call the whole shadowboxing . The voting machines aren't secure. The MIC, banks, globalists all, know that nobody who would actually change the course of the country can be allowed to win. Trump would deal and continue the direction and get richer. Crruz SAYS all the right things, but I don't trust him. Hillary is a known quantity for them AND was front runner when Obama and she met with the Bilderbergers, and stepped back and let Obama win. She's next. And NO trade deals will be repealed. Corporate taxes WILL continue to drive our jobs overseas. Constant war and mounting debt will be the norm.


Maybe we get Trump with Hillary VP.


I love ya JoG2 !!!!  You have such a bright and cheerful outlook on life ....(I'm going in and hide under the bed now.)

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by thumperclone on 03/03/16 at 08:26:57


3A39317B3C3B313C343B550 wrote:
[quote author=445B5D5A4740714171495B571C2E0 link=1457011133/0#1 date=1457017980]I call the whole shadowboxing . The voting machines aren't secure. The MIC, banks, globalists all, know that nobody who would actually change the course of the country can be allowed to win. Trump would deal and continue the direction and get richer. Crruz SAYS all the right things, but I don't trust him. Hillary is a known quantity for them AND was front runner when Obama and she met with the Bilderbergers, and stepped back and let Obama win. She's next. And NO trade deals will be repealed. Corporate taxes WILL continue to drive our jobs overseas. Constant war and mounting debt will be the norm.


Maybe we get Trump with Hillary VP.


I love ya JoG2 !!!!  You have such a bright and cheerful outlook on life ....(I'm going in and hide under the bed now.)
[/quote]
don't forget your foil hat :D

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by Ed L. on 03/03/16 at 13:41:17

Well we could get Trump and Palin :D :o
Don't know what will happen but it will be interesting.

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/03/16 at 15:13:45

Reality is not often met with joy.

Being cheerful at the expense of being honest?
Get bit by a rattlesnake then sit down and practice that sunshine attitude, everything is awesome.

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by verslagen1 on 03/08/16 at 11:52:28

I don't know about you... but I dream of other things at night.

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by Tocsik on 03/08/16 at 13:36:50

Trump will selfishly ruin what's left of this country. He is only concerned about himself and his continual pursuit of money and attention.  The general IQ of our nation has fallen to such lows that there is actually a chance that our population will commit national suicide and elect him to office.  Even the Roman empire eventually collapsed so we are not immune to the social disease that can lead to our own downfall.

I've been a conservative for a long time but the rightward party has failed to put forth a decent candidate for a long time.  Problem is, only politicians go into politics.  I don't think the Democratic party has a candidate that has the country's best interest in mind.  Sure, they want to give to those with less and all of the other social issues, but no one seems to really have the altruism and national pride that past generations have exhibited.

</end opinion>

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/08/16 at 18:22:14

Ron Paul says Trump or Hillary will take the country to effectively the same place. I'm unable to disagree..I've been excited about Trump, because he at least Looked like an outsider. Cruz SAYS the things I like. I don't believe him.
And, I don't think it matters anyway, because Hillary was promised the position after Obama. Bill will head up the U.N., and their ambitions of being the most politically powerful couple in history will become reality.
You ain't SEEN idiocy made policy yet.

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by pg on 03/08/16 at 18:51:21

Trump or Hillary will take the country to effectively the same place.

http://www.manoramaonline.com/content/dam/mm/ml/vanitha/news/images/2016/Feb/22/photoshop.jpg.image.784.410.jpg

Creepy...... :o

Best regards,

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by raydawg on 03/09/16 at 03:41:54

That is creepy  :o

What a strange event, I have never felt so out of it in my life re: a prez election.
If Sanders was against Trump, I would vote for him. Hillary against Trump, I might sit out, or, I dunno.
Hillary if elected, won't get much of a shot to govern, like her hubby, because she will be in a fight with a lot of people who want "justice".
I have no clue as to what Trump will do....none.

At this point it seems Trump is going to win, as Hillary will never get over a certain amount of support, and The Donald is pulling support from a bunch of angry people that are pizzed at both parties...

In a weird way, he has co-opted the repubs and created a new third party attraction kind of thing, and isn't losing the evangelical voters as most moderate canidates do    :o

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/09/16 at 05:27:45

Well , IF Trump wins, blame D.C.. They have been screwing us for decades. And, IF Trump wins, unless he behaves nicer than he talks, we are in trouble. Of course, Hillary or cruz win, trouble.

We are in a bind.

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by WebsterMark on 03/09/16 at 05:33:52

I'm somewhat at a loss to explain Trump's appeal. I'm continually surprised at the people I see and hear in manufacturing plants across the country talking about supporting Trump. I've never seen anything like it, except overall black support for Obama. That's more easily understood since it's tied to race. Trump's broad appeal to all types? Hard to classify.

Who are these people?  I'm trying to put them into a box with a label.

If you read about the Oregon bakers who were sued into bankruptcy by militant lesbos and you shook your head in disbelief, you're more likely to be a Trump voter.

If you watched the Oscars, you're more likely to not be a Trump supporter.

If you ever watched a reply more than once of LT rolling over Joe Theisman's knee, you're more likely a Trump supporter.

If you think they should take fighting out of hockey, you're more likely not a Trump supporter.

Others?....


Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by raydawg on 03/09/16 at 10:45:52

If you watch bowling on TV, you are a Trump supporter
If your Christmas lights are still up, you are a Trump supporter.
If you reload your ammo.... You are a trump supporter.
If you voted for hope and change last time but lost hope and counting your change..... You are a Trump supporter.
If you invested in solar power and lost your shirt, you are a Trump supporter

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by cheapnewb24 on 03/09/16 at 19:00:36

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU1Rzdqt35Y
[/media]
"America never stopped being great," huh?! :P

I guess the lot of us miserable, hopeless, frustrated, or otherwise dissatisfied Americans must need shrinks then, since it's all in our heads! :P


>:(

I think she's a case... :P >:( Diversity?! Phuhh!!! What a case! Our country is going to Hell in a handbasket, and all she can think of is "diversity"! :P >:(

Not saying that it's not valuable for everybody to love each other, but seriously? :-? You guys want this delusional lady in the White House? :-? You're kidding? :-?

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/10/16 at 20:20:18

http://fredoneverything.org/

Third story down, very good explanation of the wonders of diversity. Just what we need. More special interest groups, demanding that They be heard.

Bill Joe Nitwit in Kentucky makes his wife wear a tent. His daughter was raped by a kid on the football team, so, he killed her. It was the only honorable thing to do, don't ya know.
Why is it NOT shocking when Muslims do what would get Billy Joe hung?
Don't we have enough trouble without importing those who Can Not and WILL NOT ever Choose to be Americanized?

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by raydawg on 03/11/16 at 10:31:36

Best explanation I have read so far about Trump.

It's in realclearpolitics by Fred Barnes.

Worth a read in my opinion and frames the Trump in a manner you will have a hard time faulting

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by Serowbot on 03/11/16 at 10:54:34

I still can't believe Trump is being taken seriously as a candidate...

It's like we're living in a bad joke... :-?

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by WebsterMark on 03/11/16 at 11:12:41

I felt the same way about Obama. The only difference is I've had to live for the past 7 years with your joke.....

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by raydawg on 03/11/16 at 12:16:37


5442554850454853270 wrote:
I still can't believe Trump is being taken seriously as a candidate...

It's like we're living in a bad joke... :-?


Read that story I referred to bot.
The people who are mentioned are real.
Like I have shared before I am in aircraft manufacturing and its union, and Trump is the hands down favorite.
What Fred Barnes shares is spot on how these people feel. 8 years ago they were Obama supporters.
Read the story, it will give you perspective even if you don't grasp the reason behind it......
BTW bot, the repub party pillars share your feelings, gee.... Strange bedfellows, eh  ;D

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by pg on 03/11/16 at 14:52:12


283E29342C39342F5B0 wrote:
It's like we're living in a bad joke... :-?


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/03/09/20160310_bernie.jpg

Here's some pretty good humor.   ;D

Best regards,


Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by cheapnewb24 on 03/11/16 at 14:54:02


687F79757A6A180 wrote:
[quote author=283E29342C39342F5B0 link=1457011133/15#18 date=1457722474]It's like we're living in a bad joke... :-?


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/03/09/20160310_bernie.jpg

Here's some pretty good humor.   ;D

Best regards,

[/quote]


I like that! ;D

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/12/16 at 07:48:15


4E595F535C4C3E0 wrote:
[quote author=283E29342C39342F5B0 link=1457011133/15#18 date=1457722474]It's like we're living in a bad joke... :-?


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/03/09/20160310_bernie.jpg

Here's some pretty good humor.   ;D

Best regards,

[/quote]

I would DO that..

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/12/16 at 08:31:56


293A223F3A2C3C5B0 wrote:
Best explanation I have read so far about Trump.

It's in realclearpolitics by Fred Barnes.

Worth a read in my opinion and frames the Trump in a manner you will have a hard time faulting



Wentvlooking. Didn't see it, but, found this.

” In February, 2016, three-quarters of Americans believed it—and the differences between Democrats, Independents and Republicans were minimal. In the early 21st century, about 20 percent of Americans thought that quite a few of those running the government were crooked, but in 14 years, that number had tripled to 58 percent with Republicans and Independents holding this view more than Democrats.

I think the dems see the bubs as crooked, but their guys, when Not honest, are only not honest because the system the bubs have created would keep them from achieving what Must be done, in order to save us from ourselves.

It's a big site, more info needed,

P.S.,
What is WRONG with that 42% who DON'T believe that policy is made by the few, for the few? Of COURSE, a Few of them ARE the few, and they would never admit it's how business as usual continues to BE business as usual.

Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by raydawg on 03/12/16 at 18:46:20

Best explanation I have read so far about Trump.



Worth a read in my opinion and frames the Trump in a manner you will have a hard time faulting



Wentvlooking. Didn't see it


Here it is....


http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-forgotten-voters/article/2001516



Title: Re: Thinking about Trump, why?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/12/16 at 21:31:28

And, I'm hearing about some of the Very Same candidates who just Demanded that Trump take an oath to support the bub nominee are just so sickened by his brash behavior that they just don't know if they can support him should the voters be so stupid as to choose him as the nominee.
Kinda like the idiots who didn't understand how wonderful NAFTA would be.... They decided in D.C. that we would thank them later.

Disaffected blue collar workers are THIS percentage of America?
Really?


Look up

Insurgent


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