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Title: Carb rebuild ?? Post by way2fastmichael on 03/02/16 at 17:07:45 Hey guy, I'm in the tear down to a bobber build. I have the carb off and was wanting to do a rebuild of it. Any one know of a kit I can use,part numbers?? Also wanting to maybe do the pet thingy upgrade just not sure if I want to have to turn it on and off all the time. its a 1999 ls650 [img][/img] |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/02/16 at 17:55:01 Whats wrong with it that makes you need to rebuild it? |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by Kris01 on 03/02/16 at 18:24:01 These carbs are really basic. You really only need to clean it thoroughly and it should be good for many, many thousands of miles. |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by way2fastmichael on 03/02/16 at 21:22:17 ok cool, so what do i do to clean it. i bought the bike and it was running, i rode it a little. parked it and about a month later could not get it to start. smelled a lot of gas, opened up breather box and had about a inch of gas in it. |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by Kris01 on 03/02/16 at 21:32:53 Go through the tech section. It's very informative. Your exact problem has come up numerous times. The petcock is a known failure. That may be your problem. |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by Serowbot on 03/02/16 at 21:54:08 You are definitely due for a Raptor pet... Turning it off when you park is PPP,... but I only turn it off, if I'm parking in an enclosed space, or pulling the tank... ...(it will only be a problem, if the floats get stuck,... and I prefer it to leak while parked rather than while running)... Carb rebuild is easy,... and needs no parts. Just disassemble, clean, and reassemble... Remove grit from the floatbowl and seat... and run a thin wire through all the passages you can find.. (guitar strings, or welding gauges, work well)... also, spray carb cleaner everywhere, especially on the slide (it can collect a putty-like slime, that interferes with smooth operation)... ...since you have fuel in the filter,.. pull the floats, and shake them, to see if they have any fuel in them... also drop them in a cup of liquid, and watch for bubbles... 3 reasons for fuel in the filter... leaky float, bad float needle or seat,... or bad vacuum petcock... with the Savage, it's usually the pet... External screws can be a booger... once you get them out, consider replacing with Allen heads... When doing carb work,.. don't think of removing screws as getting to the job,... removing the screws... is the job... Be careful,... and be patient... 8-) |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by Struch on 03/03/16 at 00:10:47 for cleaning do that SuzukiSavage.com › General Category › Technical Documents/Reference › Carburetor cleanup name is Carburetor cleanup Island Style It help me allot check for wear parts and so on ;) |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by Kris01 on 03/03/16 at 18:57:33 'bot, ya think carb cleaner would hurt the diaphragm? |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by verslagen1 on 03/03/16 at 19:05:46 6E574C561514250 wrote:
yes |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by Art Webb on 03/03/16 at 21:04:13 Carb cleaner will hurt ANY of the rubber parts, so will the dip, never ever ever ever get any on any of the rubber parts |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by gizzo on 03/04/16 at 00:51:55 One more time: yamalube carb dip. Its the best and doesn't dissolve the plastic or rubber bits. You can throw the whole thing in there if you like. But works best if you've disassembled the carb. |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by Art Webb on 03/04/16 at 08:33:05 It also costs 2x as much as Chem Dip ;) |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by gizzo on 03/04/16 at 08:45:12 And? Sometimes its worth paying the extra for something that works properly, the first time. Plus, the yamalube stuff can be stored in a suitable container and used over and over. Just my 2c, and I only mention it because I've used it and it works. |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by Art Webb on 03/04/16 at 09:11:43 Chem dip works too, if you do the work properly, and is already in a sealed container you can use multiple times, with a dip basket to put the small parts in so you don't have to fish them out I have a can of it now I've done like 8 carb cleanings with, no fuss, no muss, and always does the job for me the first time So why pay 2x the price for less than 1/2 the product, and have to find a suitable container, and a basket to dip with, at extra coast too? just my 2c |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by gizzo on 03/04/16 at 12:05:52 Ok, fine. But I've never used, or seen chem dip and wouldn't know if it attacks rubber parts or gaskets or diaphragms. But I know the other stuff works and its safe for rubber parts, so that's the only product iI would suggest. If you guys have something better and cheaper available, that's fantastic. Dunno about the chem dip but the yamalube is diluted to make about 3 litres of product, so you get a fair bit to work with. And only need a plastic tub so that's no biggie. |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by Kris01 on 03/04/16 at 20:49:41 4C5F4849565B5D5F540B3A0 wrote:
yes[/quote] Thought so. Thanks. |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by Art Webb on 03/05/16 at 08:38:45 7F656163625C6D7E787E65686B690C0 wrote:
Re: Carb rebuild ?? Reply #16 - Today at 08:36:24 Alert Board Moderator about this Post! Quote Modify Remove Oh, didn't realize you had to dilute it that actually makes the cost about equal Yes, chem dip eats rubber parts, as does carb cleaner, but you're supposed to get all those out of the carb before dipping it Chem dip was around long before Yamalube, and has had a good rep since before I was born, so since that's what I was raised with, that's what I use I've only heard 2 people talk about yamalube, so i'm leary of it, but that's not a surprise, as I also don't fully trust Hydrogen peroxide it doesn't sting, so how can it be lethal to germs That's probably why I don't trust the yam stuff 'it doesn't eat rubber, how can it be lethal to varnish' Maybe I should be more open minded and give it a try, once my Chem dip is no longer good I can always use the Chem Dip can to store / use the yamalube stuff ;D |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by Art Webb on 03/05/16 at 08:40:32 2B383E3D2F28284A0 wrote:
Oh, didn't realize you had to dilute it that actually makes the cost about equal Yes, chem dip eats rubber parts, as does carb cleaner, but you're supposed to get all those out of the carb before dipping it Chem dip was around long before Yamalube, and has had a good rep since before I was born, so since that's what I was raised with, that's what I use I've only heard 2 people talk about yamalube, so i'm leary of it, but that's not a surprise, as I also don't fully trust Hydrogen peroxide it doesn't sting, so how can it be lethal to germs That's probably why I don't trust the yam stuff 'it doesn't eat rubber, how can it be lethal to varnish' Maybe I should be more open minded and give it a try, once my Chem dip is no longer good I can always use the Chem Dip can to store / use the yamalube stuff ;D [/quote] |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by way2fastmichael on 03/06/16 at 12:05:57 ok one other question, if my breather box had a lot of fuel in it, i saw somewhere that said i may have fuel in the engine case, if so how do i confirm that and if so does it need to come out. also best way to do that. thanks. big learning curve. but having a lot of fun with this little bike. and for some reason i cant get my pictures to load up. i want to show her to yall. |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by gizzo on 03/06/16 at 12:22:33 It would be pretty safe to assume there is fuel in the oil, and to change it to be on the safe side. It's not a big expense and maybe it's due anyway? Take the oil filler cap off and find out if the oil smells like fuel. |
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Title: Re: Carb rebuild ?? Post by Dave on 03/07/16 at 04:02:25 435D58585D5559595757465B475F514D340 wrote:
If you have the stock vacuum petcock....and had fuel in the air box - that is an indication that your petcock diaphragm is leaking and letting fuel flow down the vacuum line. The fuel then can either enter the air box, or enter the intake valve and flow past the rings into the crankcase (or both). You can look at the oil level and see if it is too high, you can take the oil fill cap off and smell for gas - or for $ 6.00 you can drain it out and put in 2 quarts of Rotella T and not have to worry about it. You should also do something about your petcock....either rebuild the stock one if you like the vacuum petcock and the potential problems that go with it.......or put on a genuine Yamaha Raptor Petcock. If you buy a Raptor be careful not to buy the Chinese copies - look for the white Yamaha box and the part number 5LP-24500-01-00. If the seller doesn't state that it is a genuine Yamaha part...find somebody else to buy it from. |
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