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Title: riding on Saturday? Post by Gus on 02/25/16 at 06:00:19 Supposed to be in the 50's here Saturday. I'll be riding if I have to haul 'er to dry ground to do it. Pretty sloppy in these parts. I cranked her this Las weekend and she popped right off. Ohhh the sound of that big single is so sweet. |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by Tocsik on 02/25/16 at 06:14:15 Yeah buddy! I rode to work last week Tuesday through Friday. First time is quite a while and was pleased she turned over without problems. Been getting a little smoke for the first minute of warm up so gotta troubleshoot that. Truck comes first, though. Need to sort out a vibration that's getting worse. And 4WD has been giving me problems. Ah, vehicle ownership. It never ends. |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by Gus on 02/25/16 at 06:20:16 Tocsik, I see your from Denver. I just talked to my cuz in Colorado Springs this AM for a bit. Glad the weather is favorable there. Thump On! |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by Dave on 02/25/16 at 06:20:28 606F78656E66336E6D6533010 wrote:
KY might be suitable for a ride as well on Saturday with a morning temperature in the middle 30's and up to the 50's in the afternoon - but Sunday will be better as we should get up in the 60's. I am of the opinion that "starting" your bike and letting it warm up when you aren't going riding is not a good practice - it is better to just let the bike sit until a day when you can actually go riding(with a battery tender used occasionally to keep the battery charged). There isn't good oil pressure and oil flow when the bike is idling, and there is evidence that the cam does not get good oil distribution when the bike is leaned over on the sidestand. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1447331708 |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by Tocsik on 02/25/16 at 06:26:14 I hear ya, Dave. I don't start the bike until I'm astride her with all my gear already on (insert double-entendre thoughts here). Had to break the habit of letting my scooter warm up while I "geared-up" when I got the Savage. With temps in the high 20's or low 30's, I start her with the first click of the enricher and my hand on the throttle for 20 seconds or so to keep the revs up. Then I take off gently for the first mile or so and usually push the enricher in at the first stop sign leaving my neighborhood (which is less than that first mile). |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by Dave on 02/25/16 at 06:31:25 526965756F6D060 wrote:
Could this just be condensation in the cold exhaust system? It is not uncommon for a bit of water vapor to show up in the exhaust when the air is cold. White smoke is usually just a sign of water vapor.....hold a mirror in the smoke and see if water droplets form of the mirror. (Oil smoke has a blue tint, and rich fuel mixture makes black smoke). |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by Gus on 02/25/16 at 06:46:42 Dave, I read that article. I am of the opinion that many air cooled motorcycles are killed at stop lights and bombing around town. I live 18 miles from the nearest gallon of gas. My bikes rarely idle or set at stop lights. I doubt 3 min. Of idling is going to be the demise of my engine . If it is; it's not the right bike for me. Besides Dave, I've always been kind of a rule breaker. Has it cost me at some time I the past? Yup! Will I break the rules again? Probably; it's in my nature. That aside, I surely hope you get out and enjoy the spring weather in KY. I'll be riding with you. And thanks for all you do on this website. I could only pretend to know what you do about these beloved Singles! Thump On! |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by Dave on 02/25/16 at 06:56:52 Gus: You could be right....3 min. may not make a difference - dunno. I can't even begin to know where to search - but I do remember reading on this forum where folks have started their bikes up in the winter and let them idle for 30 minutes to charge the battery - and it is their belief that they are actually doing something "good" for their bike. That most likely is the kind of abuse that caused the cam and rocker to go bad on the bike I bought....with only 3,800 miles on it. Dave |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by Gus on 02/25/16 at 07:47:42 Dave, You bring up an interesting point! About charging batteries. I wonder if the stator on any motorcycle is able to fully charge a battery. I'm of a mind that all these small engine batteries need a thorough charging every so often. |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by Dave on 02/25/16 at 08:09:25 If you ride your bike for more than just short trips.....the bike will fully charge the battery and it won't need any supplemental charging - but I don't know what the length of time needed to recharge the energy used by the starter motor. If you have to crank for a while....obviously you will need to ride for a while. We have had a few folks on this forum who only made a lot of short trips while doing errands on their Savage, and with all the energy used to start the bike.....they would eventually wear the battery down and the bike wouldn't start until the battery was charged again. I believe we have determined that there is only about 14 watts left over for battery charging when the bike is running, and that is only about 1 amp of charging for the battery. I have never had any problems keeping my battery charged, and I believe the bike can fully charge the battery as long as you ride 4-5 miles between stops. You can most likely even make a dozen or so very short trips in a row - but if you keep it up for a week or two of riding - you may end up needing a charge before you get going again. |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by Gus on 02/25/16 at 08:32:39 I've never had a charger on my Savage. But like I said in a previous post; there are no real short trips from where I live unless you want to stop and watch the sunset. Your figures about power and amperage in your post would suggest there is very little left over from running the electrical system to charge the battery. That is what I sensed. I will though, continue to trickle charge all of my butteries from time to time. Even the ones that get regular use. I do it on my vehicles a couple times a year. I just put the trickle charger on over night just as part of a routine maintenance. I think I get more mileage from my batteries. I have one old car here with a battery that is 8 years old. It's a diesel with a glow plug system in it. I started it the other day after not running for a month and the battery still warms it up and turns the starter. |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by springman on 02/26/16 at 19:46:23 I'm going riding tomorrow also! Thump on! |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by Kris01 on 02/27/16 at 15:24:41 Has anyone that rides short trips and has trouble starting their bike occasionally considered a small solar panel charger mounted someplace inconspicuous? At least there would be a small charge going to the battery. It may be enough if you run it down occasionally. |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by KennyG on 02/27/16 at 22:24:07 I would like to have a small solar panel capable of heating a pair of gloves. Probably not possible. Kenny G |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by Gus on 02/28/16 at 11:12:10 The solar panel thing has merrit. I use those small solar trickle chargers on a couple vehicles here that don't get used much. One is a diesel bus made into a camper. It is always ready to start and it only has one battery in it rated at 950 CCA. That little solar panel keeps it topped off all the time. BTW-- I did get a little ride in yesterday after putting new elements in my hot water heater for momma. Not near long enough but a ride never the less. |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by old.indian on 02/28/16 at 12:56:01 Saturday was 70+ degrees, sunny and bright.... Can't let the gas in the tank get stale so.... 67 miles and a fill up.... Jeans, sweatshirt, leather jacket, and leather work gloves.... All back roads and NO traffic..... 8-) Sunday, and I'm doing yard work keeping Momma happy.... :-/ |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by KennyG on 02/28/16 at 13:04:53 It is 73 degrees in Denton TX today. I cannot believe how fortunate one is to own a motorcycle in Texas. Kenny G |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by Dave on 02/28/16 at 16:15:33 We got up into the middle 60's today in KY.....but the wind was really strong and it seemed like I was always riding into it - both ways! I rode about 100 miles along the ground.....200 miles of wind in my face! :-? |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by springman on 02/28/16 at 20:16:07 I did not ride yesterday even though the weather has been beautiful here in Houston, because I have not gotten my new brake pads yet. Well, I could not let 2 beautiful days pass me by, so I rode today anyway. Those R pads suck but I was just very careful and only did about 30 miles. Jeans, t-shirt and mesh jacket. Yeah, that is how warm it was. |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by KennyG on 02/28/16 at 20:39:58 Tomorrow it is supposed to be 76 degrees in Denton.. I am hoping we don't pay for it this summer..... Kenny G |
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Title: Re: riding on Saturday? Post by Art Webb on 02/28/16 at 20:41:05 Didn't get to ride Saturday due to a building project, but rode sunday |
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