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Message started by Violent_Rage on 02/17/16 at 07:39:35

Title: Winter maintenance
Post by Violent_Rage on 02/17/16 at 07:39:35

Hi folks!
I started the winter maintenance, as usual in late.
Removing the right cover, I noticed something wrong:
the cover seems to be golden and the paint is peeling off inside.
What could have happened?

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Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by verslagen1 on 02/17/16 at 11:54:53

may not be peeling, most of the casting are rough on the inside.

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Violent_Rage on 02/18/16 at 07:43:25

Ah ok, I thought it was worn out, because the inside isn't all rough but only in some places.

Anyway, I'm close to send you two cam chain adjusters.
(even if I told you the same thing two or three month ago ;D )

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by verslagen1 on 02/18/16 at 08:50:08

417E787B7279634845767072170 wrote:

Just so you know... I'm close to having plungers ready for you, even if I told you that several months ago. ;)

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Rambler on 02/20/16 at 07:22:39

Great looking bike. Love that blacked out look. One of the best looking S40's I've seen. Rambler

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Tocsik on 02/21/16 at 05:34:51

+1 on a sharp looking bike.
Looks like the stock rear fender. What seat did you go with? You got it to fit in there with a great "organic" look. Did the seat make it so you couldn't use the stock air box cover?

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Violent_Rage on 02/22/16 at 00:01:43

Wow, Thank you all! :D
Yes, it's the stock rear fender, it was only slightly shortened.
The seat is stock too, I have replaced the padding, the air box cover has been replaced by a small aluminum plate, handmade and also quite ugly ;D
I should make it better...

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Violent_Rage on 03/01/16 at 00:48:23

I finally opened the second engine after inserting it in a frame just bought in Germany.
Luckily I still have not sent the first chain tensioner, this other definitely needs to be repaired.

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Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Dave on 03/01/16 at 03:27:31

So we can use it as a reference........what is the mileage on the two engines?

This helps us to understand when the tensioner should be checked. Currently the thought is that they last anywhere from 10,000 miles (16,100 KM) to a high of 20,000 miles (32,200 KM) for those who ride on long trips regularly.

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Violent_Rage on 03/03/16 at 00:51:30

I'm not sure of the first engine mileage, that it's the engine of my bike.
Unfortunately she does not have the odometer... ;D
I replaced the chain and the tensioner about 10 years ago, then the bike has not been used for a long time, and I started using her again in 2013.
I can estimate from 5000km (3100 miles) to 7500km (4650 miles).

The second one, that it's the one with the worse chain tensioner , has traveled about 12200 miles (exactly 19613 km).
If we consider that this engine has run regularly in Tuscany, near Florence, Siena and Arezzo, not on the highway, but on the narrow streets of hilltop villages, we are in the range indicated by Dave.

I'm now waiting for an answer from verslagen, I have to send him the chain tensioners, but I don't know where! ;D

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Violent_Rage on 03/05/16 at 03:57:29

Do you know an online store which sells gaskets for the Savage?
Is there a brand better than others?
I would be tempted to buy from ronayers, what do you think about?

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Kris01 on 03/06/16 at 08:24:03

Ron is a good guy to buy from.

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Violent_Rage on 03/24/16 at 02:56:23

Does anybody know what is this?
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It seems to be a switch, but a switch of what?!
It there isn't on my other carburator.

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Dave on 03/24/16 at 03:20:22

We have discussed that switch before, and nobody has ever been able to provide written documentation of what it does. The belief is that since the switch only activates at wide open throttle - that it retards the timing when the engine is operating at full power. (It is also possible that the engine monitors rpm and it could only retard the timing at lower rpm/full throttle).

Since we don't know if your ignition module requires this switch for proper operation.....it is best that you keep it intact and operational until somebody finds out what Suzuki uses this switch for.

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Kris01 on 03/24/16 at 12:18:09

What years had these switches?

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Dave on 03/25/16 at 07:39:40

7B4259430001300 wrote:

What years had these switches?

No US bikes had it.....not sure where or what year EU/UK bikes had them- or even where these switches were used.

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Art Webb on 03/25/16 at 09:31:53

It's the remote control the EU police made Suz fit so they could remotely shut off yer bike if you go hooligan :o ;D

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Violent_Rage on 03/31/16 at 03:22:56

5D4E484B595E5E3C0 wrote:

It's the remote control the EU police made Suz fit so they could remotely shut off yer bike if you go hooligan :o ;D

haha yes! it could be...

Does anyone know if there is a gasket between the valve cover and the head?
Looking at the fiches on Ron Ayers site, I would say no.

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by jrobeson18 on 03/31/16 at 04:07:07

I dont know for sure, but I would think there would be, to keep oil from leaking out.

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Dave on 03/31/16 at 04:14:33

253D202D2A3C20217E774F0 wrote:

I dont know for sure, but I would think there would be, to keep oil from leaking out.

No...there is no gasket between the head and the head cover. The mating surface is sealed with SuzukiBond sealant. It is like the RTV gasket material you buy at the auto parts store - however it sets up much slower and gives you plenty of time to work and get the job done properly.

http://www.partsfish.com/product/20518/suzuki-bond-1207b-part-99104-31140

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by jrobeson18 on 03/31/16 at 05:19:32

Oh, cool. I didnt know that, on my jeep it has a gasket.
Other than that I was taught to use Red RTV or permatex The Right Stuff.

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Violent_Rage on 03/31/16 at 05:53:53

43787562737F646279717C63100 wrote:

Thanks Dave!
I bought it. :)

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Dave on 03/31/16 at 06:30:43

You will like the Suzuki Bond - it is much nicer than the RTV products you get in stores. A tube lasts a very long time and it stays fresh in the tube - the stuff you buy in the stores sets up in the tube no matter how careful you are about getting the cap on tight. The Suzuki bond will stay fresh for years.....the other stuff lasts a few months.

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/31/16 at 08:53:36

Application is tedious and time-consuming and Important to get right.
I've seen New, unopened,still on the shelf in the auto parts store, RTV setup. The stuff I used on mine in 2007 or 8 is almost gone, but it is still useable.

Ohh, yeah, the thickness of the goo determines the clearance for the cam bearings. Thick isn't good. I don't try to get the bolts tight quickly . I make four or five passes, snugging gently, FEELING of the way the bolts are clamping down. You can feel when they are done. Busting stuff is bad.

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Violent_Rage on 04/21/16 at 06:11:52

I completely forgot that I bought SuzukiBond. Partsfish.com sent it only yesterday (20 days later...), but the rest of the shipment has arrived in Italy last Monday. Daaaaamn!!! >:(

Now I have to buy something else... :D

Can the Ryca tank be installed without the tank mount?

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Art Webb on 04/22/16 at 10:22:10

13282532232F343229212C33400 wrote:

Not that it matters once you've found suzukibond or yamabond, but when working in an auto shop I found that what worked far better when dealing with RTV was to leave a 'sprig' sticking out the end of the tube and discard the cap
the 'sprig' of RTV would harden, sealing the tube far better than a cap ever would, and when you wanted to use it next time, you just pulled the 'sprig' out
it'd still harden the whole tube over time,. but not near as fast as using the cap :-?

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by KennyG on 04/22/16 at 10:31:40

Art,

Thanks for the good idea.

Kenny G

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Art Webb on 04/28/16 at 21:03:59

heck, it was taught to me by another fella, I love to share, though

Title: Re: Winter maintenance
Post by Violent_Rage on 05/04/16 at 03:08:50

I asked a quote for powder coating the rims and the hubs and galvanize the spokes.....
350€ :o :o
I paid 800€ for the entire bike!
Too much...new rims would cost less.