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Title: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Kruzader on 02/09/16 at 18:38:14 Hello peeps. I'm getting pretty close on buying my first bike. Decided to go for a Suzuki Savage S40. I found one 2005 with 16K miles. Do you have any advice or hints I should check before going to see it? Eventually, after a year or so I want to convert the bike into a Ryca Cafe Racer...anyone with experience that can pass some knowledge? |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Art Webb on 02/09/16 at 19:05:16 It looks good If you buy it, know that the vacuum petcock is rubbish, and should be replaced with one from a Raptor 660, which is a bolt-on, and the vacuum port plugged the cam chain tensioners are problematic as well http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1344399573 http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1366651397 required reading for all new savage owners |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by smokin_blue on 02/09/16 at 19:39:56 Other than that gas up, keep an eye on the oil and ride the wheels off it! (oh and keep an eye on those front brake pads about every 7k miles....seems to eat those things for breakfast!) |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by stewmills on 02/09/16 at 19:54:16 buy it, ride it, enjoy it. do not, i repeat, do not go to a mechanic or dealer for work. lots of good info and good people here to guide you. i never owned or worked on a bike before my s40 4 years ago and i love it. this forum is a gold mine and there is nothing on the bike to be scared of. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Dave on 02/10/16 at 02:09:58 Welcome to the Forum....update your personal information(MY CENTER) at the top of the page. List your City so folks will know where you live.....it helps to know who lives in your area. Same thing I did. I bought my bike and rode it for about a year, then tore it apart and did the Cafe' conversion over one winter. The first year on the Cafe' it was in primer and I worked on getting everything the way I liked it.....then the following winter it was torn apart and painted. (It was actually a bit more fun when in primer, as I wasn't so fussy about it staying clean or getting a scratch). The Bike Builds section has threads that show other folks builds, and should keep you entertained and informed for a few hours. When you start down this trail you might want to keep your build in a single thread....that way you can be added to the bike build section as your bike progresses. The Bike Build Sticky is at the top of the Rubber Side Down page, I have included a link below: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1383565946 Oh yeah....almost forgot. Before you decide to order your rims and tires....read this. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1435340395 |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Struch on 02/11/16 at 05:05:12 If you have M1 take it for a spin if ti is all good and it rides. Now weird noise or so forth buy it and if something gonna come up you can fix it with the help of this forum. I bot my first bike about 5 months ago it wasn't perfect atoll but now it is reliable because of this forum only! |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Kruzader on 02/13/16 at 10:07:24 Guys & Ladies, Thank you so much. I'm off to see it in a couple of hours, filled with much more information. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Tocsik on 02/13/16 at 10:46:17 keep that petc0ck advice in mind. I bought my 08 with less than 2K miles on it. When I picked it up and was ready to ride home, it started sputtering and missing and eventually died. I checked the tank and it appeared to have enough dead dinosaurs in there but I flipped the lever and took off and it seemed OK so I just stopped and filled up the tank. Once I read about the need for the Raptor, I replaced the stock petc0ck and it's been just fine. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by raydawg on 02/13/16 at 15:08:39 Yes, she is a primitive bike, noisy, lots of torque you need to control, but very forgiving and just plain old fun to ride. I too have learned to work on this simple machine, and even that has become a joy. Some basics you need to do, as they already shared, but other than that, ride it and make a friend ;D |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by jcstokes on 02/13/16 at 16:14:24 I'm glad you plan on keeping it for a year before you do the RYCA thing. Check with others on here about the RYCA comfort factor, if you intend riding any distance on the RYCA conversion. In some ways the bike shown is too good looking for extensive mods, but that's your choice not mine. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Kruzader on 02/13/16 at 18:35:30 I got it, but forgot the key. LOL |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/13/16 at 20:46:43 675E59564D48495E2C0 wrote:
Awwritte, you're safe for now! The cam chain tensioners are problematic. And you're gonna need to get to be checking yours soon. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by chzeckmate on 02/14/16 at 00:29:51 Congrats on the new bike. Looks great! Welcome to the forum. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Struch on 02/14/16 at 05:36:59 Have a good ride! |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Art Webb on 02/14/16 at 09:03:58 cool! 8-) |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Kruzader on 02/15/16 at 03:17:42 Excellent. There is so much information here with the highest gratitude - Thanks! Read your post about the Cafe tires. Although I did not understood much it was informative and will return to it to find the best possible combination of front and back tires. I'm afraid to go into the Bike Build Sticky is 3 AM....and i dont work tomorrow! ;D 0B303D2A3B372C2A3139342B580 wrote:
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by 51.50 on 02/15/16 at 08:29:03 I also have decided on an S40 or Savage. I'm looking at a 1999 and a 2003. Both in good condition, with stock exhaust. Any suggestions? Is there a year of S40 or Savage to avoid? I've been riding since age 15. My choice of this Suzuki is because I want to maintain it myself hopefully never to over pay for dealer service. This Forum is great! |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by verslagen1 on 02/15/16 at 08:37:42 read the 'buying tips' in the tech section index (link below) |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Kruzader on 02/15/16 at 10:53:08 I think with everything that I'm learning from here I might start a threat, if there isn't one already, about what to do when you get your bike home. ::) This is a little embarrassing asking...buut how do I warm it up properly. I want to ride it a bit. 1. I figured how to start it. Do I need to use the choke, it starts without it...if yes for how long? 2. Anything i should or shouldn't do while is warming up. 3. How do I know when is ready to ride? 4. How long should I ride it. The bike is not register yet, it might take me a week or two to get to the DMV and do all the paper work plus insurance. In the mean time I don't want it just sitting there. p.s. I tried searching on how to turn on the bike, but I keep running on people having starting issues. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by verslagen1 on 02/15/16 at 11:32:25 7C45424D56535245370 wrote:
If it starts and idles fine without it then no you don't need it. However if it stumbles with a blip of the throttle then yes it needs to warm up a bit. Quote:
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You buy a car, you drive it home while the paper work goes thru the mill. No one expects you to park it and the registration from the prior owner is still valid. Key issue is to get insurance, least it is in my state. If you weren't told anything about the bike, like when was the last oil change... I'd change it. Not that it's gonna suddenly seize up on you, but if you intend to keep it, then maintain it. Know when the starting point is and do it. oil, filters, etc. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Dave on 02/15/16 at 11:32:26 The bike should not be warmed up....it should be started (use choke if you have to), then give it a fast idle with your throttle hand for about 30 seconds, then let the idle drop down, pull in the clutch, put the bike in first gear....and ride off. Don't apply a lot of throttle for a few miles and let the bike warm up as you ride.....the bike doesn't make a lot of oil pressure at idle, and we believe cam damage occurs if you let the bike idle while resting on the side stand. In KY you need to have Proof if insurance immediately - the insurance companies will issue you a card as soon as you get the coverage arranged for....even with Progressive when you apply and pay online. You are only allowed to ride the bike to the DMV without the registration being completed - but you need the insurance in effect when yo go to the DMV.....you are expected to get the paperwork done, and a new plate issued "before" you begin to ride at will. The hard copy of the title takes a few weeks - but the license and registration is done immediately and riding without the paperwork is illegal. That key switch is a tricky deal...you need to turn it counterclockwise to turn the bike OFF, and clockwise one click to turn it ON. If you turn it clockwise, it is a park position and it runs the tail light....and will run the battery down if you mistakenly turn the switch to that position. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Kris01 on 02/15/16 at 13:51:26 I've gotten into the habit of always checking my tail light after I get off. I'm paranoid of walking away from the bike and leaving the light on. One day I might get brave and wire the ignition switch so the park function is disabled. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Kruzader on 02/15/16 at 15:41:45 She performed! I didn't thou. I Took her for a ride made it past 3rd gear in the court....once i get all the paper work ill venture out. However, i laid it down on the way up to the garage....mostly aimed for the grass and took out the back light. I bought it taped..so i just gave it the last of it. :'(:( If anyone has a spare one or selling one...well let me know. ;D |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Dave on 02/15/16 at 16:41:47 I am thinking 3rd gear might be a bit too fast for the Court.....glad you weren't hurt. Have you taken a Motorcycle Safety Foundation riders course? Do you have much riding experience? The Savage has a good amount of low end grunt, and it is easy to use a bit too much throttle when you are not used to riding a big single. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Kruzader on 02/15/16 at 17:00:57 I took the course, about 3 - 4 months ago... and haven't had any experience on bike besides that. I'm on my own with you guys.... I know why i dropped it... there's a dip at the entrance of the drive way and then it goes up... i took it a bit fast - thinking if i slowed down it will tilt, plus I came in at an angle, like i usually do with the cars to avoid a hard drop. On the bump I grabbed the throttle and guess I panicked a little. 3 feet away from the garage. Lesson learned! I'm fine no scratches other than dirt on the foot peg and the light. i had spent half day yesterday cleaning it. :( ..... Learning to ride is gong to be mainly on me practicing, safety and tips from everyone I know that does. --- While on the bike, I did notice a sound coming down from the tank... sort of a Ticking, wondering if is because is a single engine. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by old.indian on 02/15/16 at 17:44:09 1st motorcycle is always a learning experience. Take it slow, and be cautious. #1 rule on a motorcycle = Pay attention . It your attention drifts, the motorcycle will do something to get you attention and it do so in such a manner that will be more than slightly painful....... :-[ That being said, a motorcycle is a highly relaxing way to spend time outdoors and "get around". :) |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Kris01 on 02/15/16 at 17:51:40 There are 2 types of motorcyclists: Those that HAVE dropped their bike and those who WILL drop their bike! ;) |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by jcstokes on 02/16/16 at 01:32:06 Check for sale and wanted in this forum, a lot of the bobber/RYCA brigade sell their unwanted stuff there. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/16/16 at 04:07:43 Empty parking lots are good places to practice low speed turns and coordination of front and back brake, panic stops. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Kris01 on 02/16/16 at 18:26:23 The most difficult part of riding a motorcycle is riding slowly. Anyone can go fast. Try riding as slow as you can (in a deserted area like an empty parking lot) and try to do some figure 8's as tight as you can without putting your foot down. I also try to do 180° turns as slow and as tight as I can without losing control. Once you master this you can try the expert level of riding in a straight line in 2nd-5th gear at speeds greater than 15 mph! ;D |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Kruzader on 02/16/16 at 18:56:47 0C352E347776470 wrote:
Well, better start sooner than later. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Kruzader on 02/16/16 at 19:12:28 Kris you crack me up...Good Laughs. On another note, I came across this... hopefully is something we can all use. I stopped to see my MOTO mentor, an older gentleman, who gave this manual. Is for the older Savage models, but I think I can learn quite a bit from it. Since you guys know more, let me know if it will be useful to scan some of these pages. Now I have to go find that turn signal I popped, and read other posts. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Kris01 on 02/16/16 at 19:35:38 I'd be very interested! How many pages? |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by KennyG on 02/16/16 at 19:45:40 Kruzader That looks like a genuine factory manual, that is probably worth it's weight in gold. Since the Savage/LS650/S40 haven't changed that much over the years that manual is really good to have. You can always verify with the guys on here anything that you consider working on, and I do believe there are online manuals for the S40. Possibly there is an online manual here on the website. Under "Technical Documents" you will be able to verify what you find in your service manual. Kenny G |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Kruzader on 02/16/16 at 20:32:17 526B706A2928190 wrote:
I want to say is over 80 pages for sure. There are no pages numbers, basically there are sections and they all seem complete. Along with 2 supplementary manuals for the 95 and 87 models |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Kruzader on 02/28/16 at 09:12:05 I took the bike out yesterday, and realized there is an ocassionallly loud pop comin from my exhaust as I slow down or down shift. Any iinput on where to start looking for the issue. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Kris01 on 02/28/16 at 09:23:12 I like the pop! ;) You're running a little too lean. Factory bikes are built this way to defeat emissions laws. The engine actually burns cleaner when lean. You can rejet the carburetor to run richer and the bike will run better. The pop is a result of being lean. It's normal. There's several threads about rejetting the carb. Do a search in the Tech section. ;) |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by old.indian on 02/28/16 at 09:25:35 The "POP" you describe is happening when you "chop" the throttle. (i.e. reduce throttle too quickly) Learn to reduce throttle a bit slower = less or no "POP". (Conversely, the neighbor's Rottweiler quit trying to chase me when I chopped the throttle from full twist just as he had his big nose right behind the muffler. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by oldNslow on 02/28/16 at 09:34:45 1C25222D36333225570 wrote:
Like Kris01 said it's not really an issue, especially if your bike is completely stock. Some guys have tinkered with the carb with varying degrees of success, but if your bike runs ok otherwise you really don't need to do anything. If you roll off the throttle slowly and don't let it completely close when you slow down and downshift it helps. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Kruzader on 02/28/16 at 22:13:58 Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. The previous owner did say he adjusted the carb (I'll contact him and get the exact numbers) and also drill something out of the muffler. I'll take pictures and get the cab settings this coming week. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by jcstokes on 02/28/16 at 22:19:42 Make a very thorough check with the experts here, I'm not one of them, before you drill anything out of the muffler, opinion might be mixed as to whether you will gain anything. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Art Webb on 02/29/16 at 09:00:14 you gain 1 thing when drilling out the muffler: noise the bike won't go faster, it'll just sound different If you want it to sound really nice, and maybe pick up 1-3 HP(if you're lucky) , put a Dyna muff on it, and take the time to jet the carb, but really on a bike with 30HP stock, you won't get a noticeable boost in power without doing more than a loud exhaust, it's not a 70s smog mobile chevy with a 'log' exhaust manifold and super restrictive mufflers |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by jjn on 02/29/16 at 11:16:35 I know that's just a picture of a stock S40. But, Suzuki just did it right! That is a great looking motorcycle by my standards! |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Kruzader on 02/29/16 at 23:38:54 I'm not trying to drill anything out. ... what I meant to say is that the previous owner did it. I'm trying to correct the issue. |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Art Webb on 03/01/16 at 14:19:32 Likely he drilled out a baffle, and didn't do his homework, you might need to do some carb tuning and even rejet |
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Title: Re: About to buy 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 need ad Post by Kruzader on 03/11/16 at 00:05:57 Sorry guys, I been working 12 - 14 hour shifts. Here are pictures of what I have to work with. In the coming weeks I'm going to switch this muffler with a Harley Soft Tail muffler #65842-07 very similar to the Dyna. I need to figure out the adjustment for the carb. Once that's set my next step will be the air filter and oil change. Follow by the petcock... |
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Title: Neutral to First Gear grinding feeling Post by Kruzader on 04/07/16 at 23:15:01 Finally, rode and rode and rode, around the surrounded neighborhood. Rode about 40+ miles. One thing that made me very concern. 1. Being in Neutral and shifting to first I feel like the gear grind into the engine, i feel it on my shift lever....going to 2nd, 3rd, 4th is smooth. Only happens when I'm in Neutral and going to first Any ideas? |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Dave on 04/08/16 at 04:11:08 If the bike is still cold when you shift into first to ride away....it is not uncommon to get a clunk, jolt or a bit of a grind the first time you put the bike in gear. Once the bike is warmed up that problem should not occur as much....but it still might make more noise. When you shift into first from neutral you are tying to get a spinning shaft to engage with a stationary one....so the spinning shaft has to come to a stop. When shifting between the other gears both shafts are turning. You might need to adjust your clutch lever. Adjust the little threaded collar at the handlebar clutch lever so there is about 1/8" of play before the clutch lever begins to pull on the clutch springs and the needed force increases. The lever should pull easily for that first 1/8"....then the force required should increase. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Kruzader on 04/19/16 at 09:26:46 Dave. The clutch lever adjustment worked. Also looking forward to the oil change this week. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Serowbot on 04/19/16 at 10:13:49 If you think that's loud,... try a neutral to 1st on a Harley... CLUNK!!!... ;D |
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Title: First Oil Change Post by Kruzader on 04/23/16 at 16:52:04 I got the Rotella 15W-40 and the Red Line ZDDP booster... Just wondering how much of the booster should be added to the oil? Aww found the link http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1345080430/0 |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Rear Tire Size Post by Kruzader on 04/29/16 at 00:10:47 Need new tires, but is there much difference for the rear if i go with a tire size 140/90-15 me888....my bike already has the 140/90-15 me880 on it however the recommended size is 140/80-15 |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Dave on 04/29/16 at 04:02:19 There is only one tire choice in the 140/80-15 size.....and the IRC is not a great tire or a bargain. Here is a link to the new tire thread, and it provides a list of tires that are available in a matched set front/rear.....I did not list the tires that are only available to fit one end without a matching tire for the other end. Most folks choose between a 130/90-15 rear tire which is actually a little bit wider and taller than the 140/80-15, and the gearing and speedometer are only changed about 1%....the speedometer will read a bit slower than it used to. The other available tire is the 140/90-15, and it is a substantially larger tire, and does change the gearing noticeably. The 130/90 tire will handle about the same - except that new rubber always feels better than an old tire.....the 140/90 slows the handling and acceleration down a bit, and makes cruising at speed a bit nicer as the engine rpm will be reduced. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1448021014/0 |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Kruzader on 04/29/16 at 16:12:10 Dave, THank you so much. Bought my tires, now I have to figure out how to change them. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/30/16 at 07:16:03 If you can get the front, and not hurt yourself or mess up your tube, you've done well. The rear is a real bear. Pay the local independent shop.. It was thirty, last time I did it. It's a rip off. If you have help and proper tools, okay. Screwdrivers and crescent wrenches aren't exactly the proper tools. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Kruzader on 05/02/16 at 21:32:30 Thank you. I'll call around... I was thinking of taking them off myself and taking the wheels to a shop. But it is a challenge to get them off, i have to figure out how to take the bike and the new tires to the shop. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Rode and Rode Post by Kruzader on 05/02/16 at 21:33:54 I finally got comfortable riding further and further....so I rode and rode until the end of the road. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Dave on 05/03/16 at 03:33:51 So how long is that road you rode? |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Kruzader on 05/03/16 at 19:13:03 This particular road is probably a mile or 2 but, it gets pretty ugly more than half way there. The trip there is about 10 miles through some fancy neighborhoods with wide roads and no cars. I'm planning to do some poker runs, help some organizations and gain experience along other riders. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Dave on 05/04/16 at 03:38:01 132A2D22393C3D2A580 wrote:
I went on one Poker Run......not sure I am going to ever do that again. Lots of bikers ride from bar to bar, and drink beer at each one. It was not the most rewarding ride I have ever been on. On one leg I happened to get right behind a Triumph Rocket III with a drag pipe.....man that thing droned on for miles.....it was not a pleasant sound. You really don't learn much by riding in larger groups (other than how to ride in formation and how to use your feet to point at potholes and roadkill)......it is much better to find a group of 2-3 riders to go out and ride with - with larger groups the riding seems to suffer a bit.....and 80 riders in a Poker Run isn't going to help you learn to ride better. My only other group ride was a Wounded Warrior Ride on the Dragon. It was better as there was no drinking involved - but it still wasn't a rewarding experience from a "riding" point of view. Motorcycles can be just as slow as a motorhome when you have several hundred of them in an endless line. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/04/16 at 04:27:15 I hauled one wheel and new tire, put it back on, hauled the other. Paying for them to R and R the wheels? Wow, |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Tires & Tubes Post by Kruzader on 05/09/16 at 12:25:21 I figured I'll take the tires to a shop. They are charging me $25 plus tube if I take them off. $50 if they do plus tube. Not sure what to do, since one is much cheaper and the other wll it will give me an opportunity to have some one with more experience give the bike a complete look, ex... Breaks. Where do you guys get your tubes and around how much do u pay? |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Tires & Tubes Post by Dave on 05/09/16 at 12:42:30 1920272833363720520 wrote:
Brakes? The rear brake often needs a lot of dust/rust and crap cleaned out of it. Don't forget to move the operating shaft in the backing plate and confirm it rotates easily...might be a good time to take it apart, clean the parts, and grease the shaft before putting it back together. (Then pop a cold one and take a break!). |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Kruzader on 05/09/16 at 13:57:14 Dave, Thanks man for all your assistance. Your sure in my Xmas list this year. Took a ride on the opposite side of the delta, and purposely got lost.... :) |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/12/16 at 06:48:13 Nobody looks your bike over like you. They are getting paid to do tires. If you make a point to ask them to give it a going over, then be prepared to pay for an inspection. I always use a shop that allows me to be there, watch, ask questions. That was important for me. I am and always have been a mechanic, but the bike was intimidating. Needlessly, as it turns out. But Seeing someone do the valves helped me find the confidence. You might just be ahead to ride in, watch and see what they have to do to get the wheels off and back on. Pay attention to the spacers on the rear axle. Just because you're paying for a professional mechanic to do it right doesn't mean he Knows this bike. We've seen engines destroyed by professionals just doing an oil change. Trust, but verify.. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Kruzader on 05/14/16 at 22:49:25 Thanks for the advice. The shop I took it is runned by 2 older gentleman, who were recommended by a neighbor. They were kind enough to inspect my bike and do some minor adjustments, free or charge. The tires feel nicer, and I got the opportunity to sit through the installation of the rear. I saw how they did it, and there was no way I would've been able to do that myself - but i learned. Tomorrow, I'm going on my longest ride to Sacramento. Taking the side road of 5 highway. A bit scare, but if i don't get pass the fear of trips I'll never go anywhere. 50 miles or so each way. Renegade Classics Annual Swap Meet https://www.facebook.com/events/1102132563163396/ |
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Title: Bike stalled on my First long ride Post by Kruzader on 05/15/16 at 20:10:47 I went out on my first ride today, left early to avoid traffic and everything was going great, new tires felt amazing. Sadly and scary, my biked stalled as I downshifted and i was about 50 miles away from home. (I was coming to a stop and down shiftin from 5- 4 or 4 - 3 dont remember) On the way back, the bike's engine stalled again going from 1- 2 or 2-3. Kinda, sad that this is happened. Since it was my first long trip. I think the it might have to do with the the fuel system. Maybe the famous petcock, also the previous owner rejetted the carb and changed the air filer. There's a 75 mile run in town next Saturday that I'll like to do, but afraid I might encounter this again. Any advice where to begin? I'm attending the bike little by little, my next schedule things are air filer, and sparkplug. So far, new tires, oil change, and I just broke into 17K on the speedometer. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/15/16 at 20:41:40 It'll do that if the idle speed is low. If you slap the gas shut too quickly and don't get it downshifted and clutch engaged, There's some carb tuning, TEV, Start with the idle speed, a little high is better than low. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/15/16 at 20:45:37 Maybe I missed your mileage.. The plugs in the car might be OEM.. Plugs hardly ever go bad. Before you go there, clean up around the base, junk collects there. Antisieze is good putting stuff back together. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Kruzader on 05/15/16 at 21:01:02 Yea, im going to give it good cleaning. Part of me think it could've been me. When I was down shifting i was going at 30 mph when i was up shifting i was over 10mph |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/15/16 at 22:47:51 Idle speed first. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Kruzader on 05/16/16 at 21:44:13 7D6264637E7948784870626E25170 wrote:
So I should be tuning my carb first? Idle speed primaridy? |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by KennyG on 05/16/16 at 22:01:58 Kruzader, Sometimes the idle dipping when shifting comes from a dirty Transient Enrichment Valve. The Transient Enrichment Valve is one of the easier parts on the carburetor to clean, but you have to be very careful with the rubber diaphragm and only use warm soapy water to clean it. You will notice some small holes visible and they must be clean, the little air bombs for cleaning computers work on the tiny passages. Before you take it off you should probably get stainless steel Allen screws to use when carefully reinstalling the spring loaded cover. There is plenty of information on doing this in the Technical Documents. Kenny G |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/17/16 at 02:06:39 3D2224233E3908380830222E65570 wrote:
Once you have the idle speed up,then we see how it acts. Don't let it sit and idle on the sidestand. I adjusted the idle when it was a cold start, it just idled too low, As it warmed up, I'd drop it, but not below 1,000 RPM. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 -Generator Rotor iss Post by Kruzader on 05/19/16 at 21:28:56 Guys, thank you. Ken... I went ahead and bought the screws from David some time back, figured one day I would need them. I really want to attend the carb adjustment, but I been hearing this new sound on the engine, by the Generator Rotor. Quck history, I did an oil changed (following recommendations here) and the bike was running fine. I got new tires installed and all these new issues began to appeared. Before the tire change the piston head sounded louder and muffler had a bit rougher sound - the bike felt with more power. I got the same tire size, but i think the new model is a little larger, but this shouldnt afffect how the inside of the gears are sounding, right? Now i feel like i have less power, the piston sounds like it puffes air, theres this pff pff sound and when idle or lowering to the bottom gears I get this sound as if i had bunch of little pebbles on a tin can and spinned it. Check out the video, at 1:08 and 1:38 you clearly hear it. I'm afraid im going to destroy something in the engine if i continue to ride it like this. ... and this weekend i'm schedule for a 100 mile poker run. VIDEO:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpuHmEMSuFY&feature=youtu.be |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by verslagen1 on 05/19/16 at 21:44:20 that video is private. how much oil did you put in? |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Kruzader on 05/19/16 at 22:28:34 I think the video is public now... i aimed for 2 quarts...and i noticed it went over the line. too much is bad? 33203736292422202B74450 wrote:
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by verslagen1 on 05/19/16 at 22:34:30 just wanted to make sure you didn't put in 4. you say you hear a rattle like pebbles in a tin can. you need to have your cam chain checked. and the puff puff, did you cap the vac port on the carb? |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by verslagen1 on 05/19/16 at 22:43:30 I saw the video, didn't hear anything unusual, but your muff is loud. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Kruzader on 05/20/16 at 18:17:02 No the carb was modified by the previous owner...need to get to it, and thinking of getting of the stock and find g something I can install with tested settings. The chain is probably about 17k original but the sound is coming from the left side on the generator area. Isn't the Chain on the right by the oil filter? Hope next month I have a bit more cash flow to work with and attend one of these things. Things not well with my old lady. Do you think is safe to ride it about 100 miles |
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Title: Re: 1st Poker Run- Bike stalled 3 times Post by Kruzader on 05/26/16 at 18:16:05 I did the poker run. The bike performed well, but stalled on me twice on the road and once at the end. I used the choke to get it back, but at the end it just died as i was leaving the parking lot. Another biker, adjusted the carb a little, I think it was the idle "screw"...cus I had to get it home, in the rain. The bike is running really hard in idle now, but didnt die and i made it home safe... hvent riding it since...but I need need to figure out what are good carb adjustments. If I want to participate in more runs, i need to tune this baby up, any advice? |
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Title: Re: 1st Poker Run- Bike stalled 3 times Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/27/16 at 15:12:17 7C45424D56535245370 wrote:
Year model, miles, mods. If you don't have a Raptor petcock and it's a few years old, it's probably time. If it's idling below 1,000 RPM, adjust the idle speed up. Don't let it warm up, idling, on the sidestand. |
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Title: Re: 1st Poker Run- Bike stalled 3 times Post by Kruzader on 05/31/16 at 17:57:02 Quote:
2005 Boulevard S40 - Elevation 13' - 17,180 miles .... Cone filter and jetting by previous owner, said he was running rich and use the ryca jets. (images of the bike in previous post on this threat) I'm working on getting either a dyna muffler and jetting the carb to thte specs that everyone here knows. or buying a muffler from ryca and jetting to its specs. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Kruzader on 05/31/16 at 18:05:18 A little video i made... https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=PSiXVUh82_k |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 -Something is up Post by Kruzader on 06/06/16 at 22:54:03 There is so much to this bike, that I don't know where to begin. The engine keeps giving me a sound and I think is the piston, because is coming right under the tank... In the lower gears, specially when shifting down i get a sound as pebbles inside a soda can. I been riding on the streets, and haven't had an opportunity to go past 4th gear, but I feel it locks there. (a problem for another time) The bike has stalled on me on a poker run...probably a badthe carb adjustment or peacock issue. They changed the tires, and I remember my band was not adjusted to the middle... when I got the bike back, the mark was to the middle....and watching the video for the tension, I feel is a bit tight. I will like to release it just a bit. Not sure if it matters, but the back tire is slightly bigger than the stock - M888 140/90 - 15 ...I'm thinking with a bigger tired and the band tight, it might be putting too much strain on the engine? My second event, I'll like to attend to. I just hope i dont get stranded. http://www.truckinforhospice.org/ |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 -Something is up Post by verslagen1 on 06/06/16 at 23:19:39 2811161902070611630 wrote:
Nothing more important than your cam chain, have you checked it? |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/07/16 at 06:10:00 2005 Boulevard S40 - Elevation 13' - 17,180 miles .... Better have a look at the chain.. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 -Something is up Post by Dave on 06/08/16 at 03:41:09 556C6B647F7A7B6C1E0 wrote:
The headlight rattle can be mistaken for an engine rattle. Put some tape over the headlight housing to the trim around the light, and see (hear)if the sound goes away. I thought I was losing my cam/rockers as they were getting really noisy.....one day I reached up and put my hand on the headlight, and the sound went away! The cure was to take the ring off and put a couple pieces of foam tape on the retainer tabs. And.....if it is the cam chain as Verslagen has suggested you check.....and you keep riding it without doing something about it....you may need to walk home soon, as the tensioner can come apart and ruin your engine. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/08/16 at 03:59:27 At that mileage, even if your noise is the headlight, time to check out the cam chain. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Kruzader on 06/14/16 at 22:25:18 Can someone point me to the cam chain post where I can begin checking this... need to start at 0 since I have no clue on what I'm looking at and where....then maybe how to fix it. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by verslagen1 on 06/14/16 at 22:38:52 6B52555A41444552200 wrote:
It's in the tech section index (link below) once you're there, ctrl-F (find) enter "cam" and click on the down arrow till you find it. |
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Title: Re: 1st bike, 2005 Savage s40 - Advice and Journal Post by Kruzader on 06/15/16 at 00:07:58 Great Thank you. |
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Title: I did a poker runsavage kept up!!! Youtube Vid 4 U Post by Kruzader on 07/09/16 at 21:33:35 https://youtu.be/m-G03yP7eTs Hope you guys like it, and if anyone has spare mirros let me know ... i hate these things i got it with lol |
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