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Title: Yamaha R6 Post by springman on 02/01/16 at 16:04:35 Yesterday I rode a Yamaha R6 that has been tuned for racing. Holy Guacamole! I have never before ridden any vehicle that accelerates so quickly. I was doing over 70 in 2nd gear and I was not even close to pushing it. Now I know what a track bike is like. It was exhilarating, an adrenaline rush, but definitely not the type of bike for me. I am only guessing but since a stock R6 is supposed to do 0-60 in around 3.3 seconds, I suspect the one I rode is possible a sub 3 second 0-60 bike. Yeah, I could use a little more power in the S40, but not in that rding position. Hey, just thought I would mention it, I thought it was way cool! 8-) 8-) 8-) |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by MMRanch on 02/01/16 at 17:05:39 So Springman : If I get to go to Daytona this year I NEED to Test drive a Yamaha R6 ! ;) Might make the whole trip worth it ... :P |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Serowbot on 02/01/16 at 17:30:48 Proof... You CAN have too much of a good thing... :-/ |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Kris01 on 02/01/16 at 17:41:59 I imagine after a while even that much power would seem bland. I'd probably kill myself before that happened though. Sometimes ya just gotta open up that throttle! ;D |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by springman on 02/01/16 at 18:53:14 MM, if you get the chance go for it. It really is quite an experience. You're a much better rider than I am so all I will tell you is I did not goose it from standstill, I waited until I was moving a bit before goosing it and did not lift the front tire (though you do see the eight coming off of the forks) and I did not smoke the rear tire. I would guess that if you wanted to pop a wheelie or smoke the rear tire you could do it. I'm just not that skilled, or that brave. ;D |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by springman on 02/01/16 at 18:54:31 By the way, they say the top end on this bike is somewhere around 170 mph. Yep, too much of a good thing! |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Dave on 02/02/16 at 03:59:21 And the amazing thing is......any new rider can go right into the Yamaha dealer and buy one of these bikes. That goes a long way toward explaining why you can buy a lot of parts for these bikes on eBay.....a lot of them get crashed with very low miles on them. I have always come to understand that I have a Low HP personality. I have always enjoyed riding low HP bikes.....and focusing on riding them as smoothly and quickly as possible. Still....I wouldn't pass up the opportunity to ride a fast bike! :) MMRanch rides really smooth and has a great line through the turns, and he does it using very little throttle and seldom uses his brakes. He just gracefully carves through the turns on the Dragon.....that is one of the reasons he can get 25,000 miles out of a rear tire! |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by pg on 02/02/16 at 05:21:57 Dave, do you still have that ST? What's the top end of that thing? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Dave on 02/02/16 at 05:50:24 4255535F5040320 wrote:
I don't know for sure what the top speed is - but the darn thing can go really fast if you want it to - I would guess it would to out somewhere around 130 - 140. It is not in the same league as a really fast sport bike. The speedometer is incredibly inaccurate and says you are going much faster than you really are....which goes a long way toward explaining why traffic was going 80 mph on I-71 when I rode it down down to the Dragon.....I believe its was nearer to the low 70's. The bike felt large when pushed hard on the Dragon.....and it was scrubbing rubber off the tires when pushed hard on those tight turns. One day some local sport bikes led the way on the Cherohala Skykway, and I felt comfortable tagging along as they knew the road well. It was the first (and maybe the only) time that I rode the bike really fast on long sweeping turns....and the darn thing was incredibly fast and stable. The other day I found that the STForum has a rider very similar to our Youzguys. This guy has 375,000 miles on his ST1100 and has only done normal maintenance....the engine has never been apart! If you want a big bike....these are an incredible bargain on the used bike market. My bike now has 43,000 miles on it, and I don't expect that i will ever wear it out. The Savage is a fun and nimble bike on the rural roads....the ST1100 is much heavier and smoother bike - it is kinda' like the comparison of a Mazda Miata and big Lincoln....they are both nice in very different ways. The only reason that I am likely to sell it someday, is the tall seat height and heavy weight...there will come a day when I won't be able to "keep it up anymore"....(No Viagra jokes needed). |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Art Webb on 02/02/16 at 07:05:58 Close your eyes Springman, remember that rush...and Imagine my shock the first time I rode a GSXR1000 The scariest part, was NOT being scared, then looking at the speedo and seeing an indicated 140, the bike smooth as glass and not a bit strained I though to myself 'I am unafraid at 140 on a motorcycle, that's not good' and shut the throttle. 120 on my Ninja 500 was fast yes, but the bike was WORKING at that speed (close to topped out) the Gixxer was totally relaxed and asking for more :o |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by sjaskow - FSO on 02/02/16 at 09:18:41 If you didn't like the boy racer position on the R6, you should go to a Victory demo days and test ride a http://www.victorymotorcycles.com/en-us/cruisers/gunner-titanium-metallic with a stage 1 flash in it. It's about 700 pounds wet and it has 110 HP and 116 lb ft of torque. I rode one last summer and it'd do 60+ in 2nd gear. :) |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by MMRanch on 02/02/16 at 10:19:30 MayBe I should not ride a R6 after-all :P , That kinda Speed might be like a Drug , (as in"Try-it--You'll like it"). right now I'm happy with 30HP little bike and 68HP big bike. :) http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/h-d/harley_davidson_xl883l_sportste%20sup%20low%2011.htm ;) |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by springman on 02/02/16 at 10:35:32 What can I say? It was fun to try at least once. I only took it to about 80 max and figured that was enough. It is hard to believe that anybody with the money can buy one of these. They are dangerous. And I have to admit that since I am somewhat inseam challenged the seat was just a bit too high for me. But once you got going .... ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by pg on 02/02/16 at 15:55:20 615A5740515D46405B535E41320 wrote:
I've looked for those and have not had any luck finding something at a good price. I know 40K+ miles is not a lot for an ST; although, there is a lot more stuff that can break and need fixed as well. I guess I just haven't found the right one just yet. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Dave on 02/03/16 at 02:58:04 PG: If you watch the STForum Classifieds, there are some great deals. I bought mine for $ 3,500 and it had 34,000 miles. It was in great mechanical condition and just had a few scratches from the previous lady having a couple of tipovers...she had a 28 inch inseam and just couldn't reach the ground well enough to hold the bike up when stopped a couple of times. They ST1300 is about twice the price of the ST1100....and there is debate about which on is best. The 1100 is a more stable touring bike and has a higher seat and more upright seating position - the 1300 is a bit sportier and is a bit more nimble, and does put more heat on the rider (and has more electronic gizmos and an electric adjustable windshield. Here is the link to the bike section....you will either have to join or ask me to send a message on your behalf (some of the listings have a phone number). http://www.st-owners.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?325-Bikes-for-Sale |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Oldfeller on 02/03/16 at 06:43:07 I have watched Dave on his 1100 go down the Skyway with a pack of road rockets, and when they got tired and stopped for a bit I pulled up with them at an overlook where they were talking to each other dumbfounded that a TOURING BIKE was able to keep up with them ...... The Savage lacked top end in the straights, I could not keep up with the group. ;) |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by dontwannapickle on 02/05/16 at 09:36:53 MM, when the weather gets right I'll let you get a feel of a 600cc sportbike. I've got the predecessor of the R6, a 600R. Its a much better streeter than the R6, with a more relaxed seating position and more HP and torque everywhere below 10k RPMs. Fully adjustable suspension adjusted fairly well makes steering precise and effortless. The Skyway is Heaven on it. Just be ready and leaning forward when it comes up on the cam! I barely stayed on first time I hit 8K. |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Art Webb on 02/05/16 at 10:57:09 MM take that offer, you won't be disappointed, the 600r is a sweet ridthe caveat of course is you might not be able to keep from shattering all KINZ of speed limits ;D |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by MMRanch on 02/05/16 at 14:45:21 I'm really looking forward to my next bike ride to Huntsville ! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] I won't be branded "Part Chicken" if I only go to 6000 will I ??? ::) So far the quickest bike I've rode was a 1st year Kawasaki 500 triple 2 cycle. In second gear the front wheel freely rose off the ground directional proportional to the amount throttle , then to my surprise it was the same in 3rd gear , but 4th only bounced up a little. That is when I looked at the speedometer showing 95 ish. :P I had a 1971 Yamaha SX-650 that I let wine out on the interstate one time. I had to duck out of the wind to see "just how fast would it go." The speedometer floated between 135 and 140 and that seemed odd , it didn't normally "float around ? :-? Then it dawned on me "Front wheel on the pavement speedometer goes up --- front wheel leave the pavement speedometer goes down . ::) ... I decided to slow down . :-/ ... That was the last one I "let wine out . :P |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by verslagen1 on 02/05/16 at 14:49:59 5A485A48455659545F170 wrote:
roflol 8-) |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Art Webb on 02/06/16 at 07:57:21 put it this way 1 wind it up to 6k 2 hit 2nd 3 lay down on the tank 4 wind her up to redline (assuming no cops around) 5 let off and upshift do not repeat 4 you're welcome ;) |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Kris01 on 02/06/16 at 10:22:47 7E6D6B687A7D7D1F0 wrote:
Probably good advice! ;) |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by pg on 02/06/16 at 11:21:11 This is probably directed towards Dave; although, please feel free to chime in. I am interested in a sport tourer. I don't really have a desire for a 1,300 cc inline 4 that does 150mph. Would a smaller cc sport bike work out fairly well? The big sport tourers have nice fairings & a big windshield. Regarding comfort, what else may separate the two? I like the thought of the higher performance and the riding position as well, or at least I think. Lingering back problems make the prospect of sitting on a cruiser that much more undesirable. Anyway, feel free to elaborate. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by MMRanch on 02/06/16 at 15:29:10 I rode Dave's 1100cc Honda last summer on a N.C. secondary road that turned into gravel , then turned into gravel rutted-uphill-down hill,washboard, tilted the wrong way on combination of the above , then dirt road. No getting used to it first type of thing. It was very well behaved in a very bad environment. ;) Its a little tall for Dave's inseams , try to buy it from him ! It also kept-up very well !!! ::) I like my Sportster 883 after I found a seat to fit my frame and pegs with ankle support , Bars to support a relaxed sitting position and a medium size shield. :) |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by pg on 02/06/16 at 16:19:12 736173616C7F707D763E0 wrote:
I thought you had a 1,200? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by old_rider on 02/06/16 at 16:24:48 6E797F737C6C1E0 wrote:
Well in all honesty, yes a small cc sport bike works rather well :) I ride my little 2013 Kawasaki Ninja 300 all over the states :) How ever, if you decide to get a fuel injected, water cooled, 70-ish mpg small sport bike...... GET A BETTER SEAT! LOL ;D I manage with mine, even though I have a bad back..... I actually lowered my ninja 300 down 1 1/2" in the back and 1" in the front, for the wife to ride if she likes, I have a 32" inseam and my knees are actually bent when I put my feet down. It took me a bit to get used to the new riding position, and caused a little wrist and shoulder pain along with finger numbing.... I put 1" spacers on the bars and some cushions on the grips..... worked out well. |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Dave on 02/07/16 at 05:06:58 PG: The ST1100 is a great bargain if you can find a good one. A lot of the folks that bought them are the type that get a new bike fairly often, and evidently have enough money that they don't try to get top dollar for their used ones. The ST1300 is a bit better for those of us with shorter legs - but they are far more expensive. I paid $ 3,500 for my bike with 34,000 miles on it - and they can easily reach 200,000 miles with maintenance. The Yamaha FJR is similar but is supposed to put a lot of heat on the rider - the Kawasaki Concours is nice but seems to be a bit more expensive. The K models BMW or some of the R models make really nice touring bikes. The ST appealed to me as it is very durable, parts are readily available and affordable - it is just a bit tall and heavy, and a 30 inch inseam or taller is a necessity. I am sorry MMRanch didn't get a chance to ride the ST1100 on the Skyway.....that is where the bike really shines. I am sure we will ride together again and he won't be forced to ride it on a rough gravel road. I prefer a more conventional seating style where your legs are underneath you, rather than the cruiser style are out front. Having your feet forward seems to put a lot more weight on your butt and makes it harder to ride for a long stretch. The new Honda 700cc sport touring models are great bikes if you can afford them, and the Kawasaki Vulcan S could be a great bike as well. Another really good bargain and a great sport/touring bike is the EX500 Kawasaki. It has a relaxed seating position compared to a modern sport bike, and they have great motors....and they are very affordable. You will have to sort though the abused bikes and look for one that has been cared for. |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by pg on 02/07/16 at 15:53:01 Gents, thanks for your insight. I'm pretty sure in what direction I need to start looking. I'm thinking something a parallel twin between 650 - 1k range would be just right. I looked up the top end of the 300 ninja on youtube. 115 mph, that little thing can move! Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by old_rider on 02/07/16 at 21:02:05 The weight, mpg and low maintenance schedule are what sold the 300 for me... well that and the price :) You can get a used one fairly cheap, and you don't have to do anything to it if you don't want.... One other thing I did was to add a 15 tooth front gear sprocket... least I think it was 15.... it gave me a bit taller gearing (hardly noticeable) and my speedo is off about 3mph. Good group of fellas all over the world ride them, just look up www.kawasakininja300.com Mostly young folks, but still a good group... I think the forum leader is from Australia, not sure... but they all were posting before we got the 300 in the states. |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Art Webb on 02/08/16 at 07:55:23 the old Ninja 500 (EX 500, they are one and the same, with the name change in I think 1993 or so) will give you 125-130 top end, and a bit lower RPM, and it's carburetted, if that makes any difference, but the 300 looks more up to date, the 500 was penned in the 80s, and was never updated much, so it looks like an older bike |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Dave on 02/08/16 at 12:51:11 The EX500 is not going to get to many folks excited about the cool looks - they are a bit dated and just a rock solid package. They go nicely and handle well, and hold up good. Here are some examples of the EX500 for sale on Craigslist. I had to pick some in CA....as the weather here is winter and folks don't have any good EX500 bikes listed for sale in the Cincinnati area right now. If you watch Craigslist for a while, you can find a really well cared for bike. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/mcy/5408817770.html http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/mcy/5439145202.html This is the beat up kind you should stay away from. http://santabarbara.craigslist.org/mcy/5380445713.html And you can pack them for trips. |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Dave on 02/08/16 at 13:10:37 And if you want to spend more money and get the same basic EX500 engine in a Cruiser platform(with the engine size increased to 650cc)......it is the Kawasaki Vulcan S. |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by verslagen1 on 02/08/16 at 14:13:56 can't get enthused about water cooled. |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by MMRanch on 02/08/16 at 14:33:04 Versey wrote can't get enthused about water cooled. I'm not much on Water Cooled either ! But I sure like the rest of it. 500cc parallel twin , Mag wheels , Disk on both ends , big fuel tank and low seat ! The GS500 is one I've kinda wanted for a while but the foot pegs are all wrong on it. They are probably chain drive anyway and after having Belt drive it would be hard to go back to a chain. |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by pg on 02/08/16 at 14:58:16 4D767B6C7D716A6C777F726D1E0 wrote:
I would probably have to go to CA to find one. I live in the middle of know where and it is about 45 miles for me to get to the nearest book store. :-/ I do appreciate your suggestions Dave. [smiley=thumbup.gif] Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Dave on 02/08/16 at 15:01:02 And I was forgetful....the Vulcan S has a 650cc engine. (I will go back and fix my post before someone points out my goof!) |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by pg on 02/08/16 at 15:02:33 405240525F4C434E450D0 wrote:
I also have new found respect for air cooled engines and the S40. Mine is 11 years old and keeps on going. If you haven't looked at the seat on the new vulcan it is not very inviting. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by MMRanch on 02/08/16 at 20:45:02 PG I've got a "Wide Glide" seat on my S-40 --- had to trim it a bit on the length , but it sits mighty fine ! 8-) |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Art Webb on 02/09/16 at 08:14:20 Nothing wrong with water cooled so long as it's a decent system, and the twinja's is Dave iof thet #3 was running I'd actually go fo it and street fighter it, BUT in my experience if all it really needed was the carbs cleaned, it's be running, and $200 more (he can't spend 15 minutes to do a quick n dirty carb clean to add 200 to =the price, something stinks methinks) the other r2 are representative of well maintained EXs And I personally liked the previous Vulcan 500 over the Vulcan S, I've seen it in the showroom and didn't much like it it's only real draw is it has a 'ergo pack' with which the seat, pegs, and bars can be changed to fit your frame better of course you can do that to any bike, just they do it at the dealer / factory with the S |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Dave on 02/09/16 at 08:24:35 3A292F2C3E39395B0 wrote:
A non-running, unloved bike with 52,000 miles on it.....I stand by my original suggestion that it is not worth buying. Better to spend a few more dollars and get a bike with 1/4th the mileage that actually runs and has been taken care of (unless your goal is to get a project to keep you in the garage). |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Art Webb on 02/09/16 at 17:01:25 I missed the 52k, that makes it even worse I still wouldn't touch any non running bike, even with 1k miles, unless I got it for cheap enough to make total driveline replacement worthwhile |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by dontwannapickle on 02/12/16 at 12:13:59 Zipped up to the gate to the Arsenal this morning while it was about 30 degrees. Guard asked how I was doing in the cold. When folks say stuff like that I like to hold up my arms and say, "These look like labia to you?". |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by old_rider on 02/12/16 at 20:19:08 767D7C6665737C7C73627B71797E77120 wrote:
Now THAT is funny, I don't care WHO you are :) ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Yamaha R6 Post by Art Webb on 02/13/16 at 08:14:50 Riding in 30 degree weather? *looks at own arms suspiciously* |
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