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Message started by cheapnewb24 on 01/29/16 at 13:53:25

Title: Fork boots defective?!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 01/29/16 at 13:53:25

I just received my Daystar D83 fork boots. They don't seem as orderly and pretty as the others (58 Series) being all squished down if you know what I mean. ::)

What really got me concerned is when I felt around the circumference of the boots, I found that the rubber is actually thicker on one side than the other. I tried to put it off as being in the design, but when I found that both of them have this on opposite sides, I kinda threw out that idea.

I called Daystar, and he told me to call back Monday when the manager is there.

You know what will happen.... They'll collapse unevenly and bow to one side. They may even collapse at certain points. Ugly, Ugly, Ugly! >:( :P

I sometimes like ugly, but one can only handle so much.  ;D

Like I asked the Daystar rep, "Is this normal?" :-?  :-/

Title: Re: Fork boots defective?!
Post by Serowbot on 01/29/16 at 16:12:34

So why'd you buy the D83's instead of the 58's?...
83's are for 11" travel...

See if they will exchange them...

Title: Re: Fork boots defective?!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 01/29/16 at 18:18:47

The 58's are supposed to be even longer than the 83's. The Savage has less than six inches of travel. So what are you talking about?  :-? The ones that are too long seem to look better, but they supposedly don't last as long being chronically overcollapsed. You seem to imply that the 58's are shorter than the 83's.

Are fork boots normally inconsistent in thickness? Do we just accept this sort of quality as the status quo?

Title: Re: Fork boots defective?!
Post by Serowbot on 01/30/16 at 08:59:40

The 83's are plastic,... 58's are rubber...
Yours aren't defective,.. they are just a different animal...

Get the 58's... you'll be happy.

Title: Re: Fork boots defective?!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 01/30/16 at 21:18:02

"The 83's are plastic,... 58's are rubber..."

I think they are all made of the same material, but, from what I have read, it seems that those 83 boots were made with big bellows for a lot of extension and small compacted length. That makes them more prone to making a mess. That still doesn't excuse them for messing them up, though. I may go with the 70 series or something else that is more like the 58 series but a little shorter.

http://www.daystarmx.com/productdetail.php?productID=939

"Yours aren't defective,.. they are just a different animal..."

So, if I pinch the bellows and go along the circumference, and find that the material is thin on one side and thick on the other, as well as visibly imperfect in shape, I should accept that as normal for vinyl boots,  huh (as opposed to rubber boots, which are supposed to be perfect).

Seems like you don't expect much from vinyl, do you, Bot? Well, I do. Think about it-- Does your explanation really make sense?

Do you want me to take a picture of them?




Title: Re: Fork boots defective?!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 01/31/16 at 21:45:20

Does anyone have anything meaningful to say about how fork boots are supposed to be? Is this sort of variance normal? Are we supposed to accept this as normal? Any one with some fork boot wisdom?

What other brands/models does everyone use? I read somewhere here about someone using Rancho shock boots? :-?

Title: Re: Fork boots defective?!
Post by Serowbot on 01/31/16 at 21:59:55


757E737766787361742422160 wrote:
Any one with some fork boot wisdom?


Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh?.....
Jes' us idiots... :-?



Title: Re: Fork boots defective?!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 01/31/16 at 22:05:52

:-?  Okay... :D

;D

Title: Re: Fork boots defective?!
Post by Serowbot on 01/31/16 at 22:13:43

Okay... ;D ;D ;D....

Title: Re: Fork boots defective?!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 01/31/16 at 22:20:13


4553445941545942360 wrote:
[quote author=757E737766787361742422160 link=1454104406/0#5 date=1454305520]Any one with some fork boot wisdom?


Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh?.....
Jes' us idiots... :-?



[/quote]

In case you missed it, the "okay" meant I was more or less agreeing with the above quote.  ;D

As Bugs Bunny says, "Ain't I a stinker!"  ;D

Title: Re: Fork boots defective?!
Post by Serowbot on 01/31/16 at 22:22:24

Big time... :-?

Title: Re: Fork boots defective?!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 01/31/16 at 22:26:35

Trapped yourself into that one, Bot.  ;D

I'll take a picture tomorrow so you can see what I'm talking about.

Have a good night!

Title: Re: Fork boots defective?!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 02/01/16 at 16:53:46

How 'bout some videos?


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6weZJSYIs3o&feature=youtu.be[/media]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJo1Ucll5Rc&feature=youtu.be[/media]

Title: Re: Fork boots defective?!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 02/01/16 at 17:13:39

The problem may be hard to see over the web. A Daystar rep talked like he was going to send me some replacements. We'll wait and see if he delivers.

Title: Re: Fork boots defective?!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 02/01/16 at 17:15:06

See how crooked the bellows are? The whole boot seems slightly bowed. Also, in the picture below, you can see the bulges where the material is thinnest. It is not only crooked when stretched; these things even want to set  at a slant when completely collapsed. Both of them are like this. I think one is a little worse than the other. The defect is on opposite sides, though. One is thinnest at the backside where the holes are while the other is thinnest at the frontside, opposite the holes.

I would say it would be more noticeable if you saw it in person. The pictures seem to do the best work here, though.

Title: Re: Fork boots defective?!
Post by Serowbot on 02/01/16 at 17:28:02

From the pics, I can't the difference between them and 58's...
What's the difference supposed to be?...

Some boots are plastic... I thought that was the difference.
Not seeing much of a problem here.

Fork boots are like tube socks... not exactly swiss made precision products.
;D

Title: Re: Fork boots defective?!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 02/01/16 at 21:43:56

The bellows aren't bigger than the 58's? I don't have any 58's, so what do I know?

The difference is not in material, that I know of--- They're both supposed to be made of some sort of "poly-vinyl" or something like that.  ::) The point is this particular pair of boots weren't molded quite right. I probably would have went along with it just fine had they been made well so they would work properly, but this is a little much. :(

Now, if the next pair of boots is just as bad, I will know that their production methods simply lack precision, and I will have to make do with them or be faced to seek other brands. I don't think I want to spend too much money on simple fork boots. I don't have those kinds of funds. However, I may be willing to spend 15-20 bucks per pair for one or two more designs to see which I like best. I may be able to get a really good deal on some 58's.

Title: Re: Fork boots defective?!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 02/01/16 at 23:16:20

Hmmm... I may have found a technique for effectively shortening the 58's.

http://www.xs650.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4874

http://www.chopcult.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33908

looks good... But then, stuff like that is risky, especially since I'll be using the gaiters for utility more than looks. :-/

Title: Re: Fork boots defective?!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 02/04/16 at 23:32:37

Anyway, I went ahead and bought some 58's. Daystar may have sent me some replacement 83's, but I doubt I will like them. My guess is that all the 83's for some reason aren't made well, but we'll see. I haven't received the others yet.

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