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Message started by S40_TRAV on 01/26/16 at 13:10:44

Title: bike won't start or turn over on own
Post by S40_TRAV on 01/26/16 at 13:10:44

Hey everyone how goes it?...I have an issue with my 05 s40, one day it died,thought battery/replaced it..still nothing...right after that I replaced the starter solenoid, the regulator/rectifier and the stator..still nothing..when I got the ignition I can hear the loud thud of the decompression lever but that's it...if I put the battery charger on it with the 12v setting it will fire up but the lights are dim and runs crappy and after i shut it off thinking it would fire right up it won't...I have no idea what's going on..any input??..thanks

Title: Re: bike won't start or turn over on own
Post by bobert_FSO on 01/26/16 at 13:56:01

It might be that your new battery is a dud. It happened to me. I would charge the battery, it would show good voltage until I hit the starter, which put a load on the battery. After that the battery voltage went low and wouldn't recover without putting it back on the charger. It would again read OK voltage until you put a load on the battery. The vendor replaced the battery and all was good.

Title: Re: bike won't start or turn over on own
Post by Kris01 on 01/26/16 at 17:08:40

Try jump starting it with a car battery. DO NOT HAVE THE CAR RUNNING! You will fry the electrical system.

Title: Re: bike won't start or turn over on own
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/26/16 at 21:00:50

Parts stores test batteries and starters and alternators . Dunno bout bike starters/ alternator..

Title: Re: bike won't start or turn over on own
Post by stewmills on 01/26/16 at 21:19:55

+1 on a possible dud new battery. happened to me with a nice agm battery. made sure to have the store test every battery i buy brfore i leave now.

Title: Re: bike won't start or turn over on own
Post by chzeckmate on 01/27/16 at 17:26:30

Sounds like you got a dud regulator rectifier and it is killing your new battery.  Use a multimeter and test both and let us know how it goes.

Title: Re: bike won't start or turn over on own
Post by S40_TRAV on 01/27/16 at 17:38:48

Thanks for the input everybody..I'll break out the multimeter and check it out when I get a chance

Title: Re: bike won't start or turn over on own
Post by Kris01 on 01/27/16 at 18:25:04

I know AutoZone will load test a battery for free but can they test a mc battery? The people that I've dealt with behind the counter usually don't know a motorcycle battery from a AAA battery.

Title: Re: bike won't start or turn over on own
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/27/16 at 20:11:23

The Wal-Mart has a Super smart tester/ charger. Resurected my backhoe battery after I left the key on, pretty sure twice.. And it's Still hanging in there, tho it's about four years old and so rarely used ,it's not gonna be long.  

Title: Re: bike won't start or turn over on own
Post by S40_TRAV on 02/02/16 at 12:07:49

I had time today to get the battery checked and it was was dud..had a short in it they said...new one out in a fired right up

Title: Re: bike won't start or turn over on own
Post by chzeckmate on 02/02/16 at 12:26:02


0C6B6F0B0D1E095F0 wrote:
I had time today to get the battery checked and it was was dud..had a short in it they said...new one out in a fired right up


I would test the regulator rectifier anyway.  It has been my experience that batteries don't just fry themselves.  I wouldn't be surprised if you find this battery fried too sometime in the near future.  Testing the regulator rectifier now might save you from this.  If it tests fine then great, but if it doesn't you can get a new one for $20 and save yourself a real headache.

Title: Re: bike won't start or turn over on own
Post by bobert_FSO on 02/02/16 at 12:38:57

I'm glad the problem is solved.

"It has been my experience that batteries don't just fry themselves."

My old battery died from old age. It was about 5-6 yrs old. My new dud battery was bad from the store. I brought it home, installed it and it wouldn't start the bike. OK, I said, maybe it just needs a charge. Charged it and it still wouldn't turn the engine over. Charged it a second time with the same result. I don't think I could blame the rectifier or charging circuit on the bike. The bike never ran with the new battery and the ignition was on for a total of about 60 seconds. The store verified the battery had a bad cell.

It happens.

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