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Message started by Suzukisavvy on 01/05/16 at 12:34:06

Title: Savage Upgrades
Post by Suzukisavvy on 01/05/16 at 12:34:06

Okay guys-

So, I have a 1998 Savage and just last week I did the petcock switch- because it was cheap and easy- and this raised one last question in my mind.

What else can I do to improve/upgrade my Savage to run better and to become more reliable and fun to ride? ;)

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/05/16 at 12:54:32

You just sidestepped a common hassle.
From here, it's more about you. You've got to keep up with the maintenance. Valves, cam chain, plenty to read about in tech.
How you ride, that will impact tires and cam chain. Your mechanical abilities and what you're ready to learn.
And the battery is a concern. You gotta run it enough to keep it alive.

A rundown on your experience, what the tires are like, numbers on the tires will tell the manufacture date.
Safety course, good idea.
Get into a corner too hot, Force the eyes to look where you Want to go, not where you think you are going or wherever you Don't want to go.
Target fixation
Look it up.
Don't do it.
Don't let it warm up sitting on the side stand. Start it, standing up,

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by Kris01 on 01/05/16 at 17:33:15


37282E2934330232023A28246F5D0 wrote:
Get into a corner too hot, Force the eyes to look where you Want to go, not where you think you are going or wherever you Don't want to go.
Target fixation
Look it up.
Don't do it.


Great advice! That's probably the most common mistake. Everyone does it.

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by hotprops on 01/06/16 at 10:03:19

would love to see a link to this target subject sounds like a good read .my goog fu needs work

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by Art Webb on 01/07/16 at 08:22:31

Target fixation, aka oh shititis, is a well known issue with motorcyclists: where you look, you will go, so if you think you're gonna hit the wall, and you stare fearfully at it, you will
If you make yourself look past it (look where you want to go) you might not

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by Struch on 01/08/16 at 00:41:04

check out videos on Keith Code or California Superbike School Keith have good videos for beginners about cornering and so on

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by Art Webb on 01/08/16 at 07:23:34

Thanks for that info, I always have time for good teaching vids, even after 30 + years on and off bikes

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by Kris01 on 01/08/16 at 17:38:39

Ya never stop learning!  :)

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/08/16 at 23:33:07


79405B410203320 wrote:
Ya never stop learning!  :)




You might, if you don't conquer target fixation.

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by Struch on 01/09/16 at 02:52:03

yes that truth it helped me out allot I started riding  8-9 months ago and you now up coming traffic on the serpentine and so on   ::)

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/09/16 at 06:11:33

It takes a Conscious Effort to Force the focus away from the hazard and look where you NEED to go.

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by Kris01 on 01/09/16 at 12:13:08


293630372A2D1C2C1C24363A71430 wrote:
[quote author=79405B410203320 link=1452026046/0#7 date=1452303519]Ya never stop learning!  :)




You might, if you don't conquer target fixation.[/quote]

You gotta point there JOG!  ;D

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by Rodger on 01/23/16 at 16:23:47

+1 on justin's comments, particularly about safety courses. I took my first MSF course when the Army began requiring it to ride on post. I'd been riding for 15+ years, but learned a LOT.

Maintenance of the cycle is key, especially tires & brakes. While a vehicle that won't start or run properly is an inconvenience, a vehicle that won't stop or manuever properly is dangerous.

I keep a good quality tire guage on/in every vehicle I own & check tire psi frequently. This is even more important on the Savage, since inner tubes will naturally lose small amounts of air over time. Also, a tire that was inflated to the correct "cold" psi in the summer will be low when the ambient temps drop (& vica versa).

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by Kris01 on 01/23/16 at 19:45:17

The first thing I do before throwing a leg over the saddle is check my tire pressure. I have, on several occasions, ridden with a low rear tire. It caught me by surprise and it isn't fun!

With 4 tires on a car, if you have 1 low tire, you'll be ok until you can get some air. If you have a low tire on a mc, that's 1/2 of your available traction that's been compromised. I don't like not being in control of my bike!  ;)

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by verslagen1 on 01/23/16 at 20:08:40


13353A352B291321363639400 wrote:
What else can I do to improve/upgrade my Savage to run better and to become more reliable and fun to ride? ;)


Learn as much as you can... what makes any bike reliable and fun is you.
Being able to fix a rattle, a squeak or a groan is fun.

Next up is a death rattle that occurs between 10 and 30 thousand miles.
The cam chain adjuster... verslavy it and forgetaboutit.

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by springman on 01/23/16 at 21:28:56

I just thought that meant I was a good rider. Like when I am going down the road and enter a turn and there's a patch of gravel and I say, "Oh dang I'm going to hit it" and I do. I guess I just need to change the way of looking at it and say "Oh dang I'm not going to hit it" and then I won't hit it. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by Dave on 01/24/16 at 03:19:23


6E6D6F74737A707C731D0 wrote:
I just thought that meant I was a good rider. Like when I am going down the road and enter a turn and there's a patch of gravel and I say, "Oh dang I'm going to hit it" and I do. I guess I just need to change the way of looking at it and say "Oh dang I'm not going to hit it" and then I won't hit it. ;D ;D ;D



No....you need to look at the gravel only until you identify it as a hazard - then switch your focus to the line that you actually want to travel.

You can practice this while you ride.....just spot a stain in the pavement, a water valve, manhole cover, turn arrow -and practice keeping your line as you pass the imagined hazard.

When I first started riding Trials I made the mistake everyone does, and I would focus on the log, hill, creek bank that I was trying to cross....and I would end up stuck on the obstacle.  Once I learned to focus on something beyond the obstacle (while keeping the obstacle in your field of vision) it was much easier to stay in control and succesfully conquer the obstacle.

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/24/16 at 09:43:44


7576746F68616B6768060 wrote:
I just thought that meant I was a good rider. Like when I am going down the road and enter a turn and there's a patch of gravel and I say, "Oh dang I'm going to hit it" and I do. I guess I just need to change the way of looking at it and say "Oh dang I'm not going to hit it" and then I won't hit it. ;D ;D ;D



If you see a patch of gravel on your side of the road and then keep looking at it, then you will hit it.
If you'll focus on a spot besides it and choose that new line through the turn, you'll have a lot better chance of not hitting it.

If you're GONNA hit it and you're cornering hard enough that it could drop you  then you might need to stop braking or gassing it and stand it up as much as you think you need to to not crash.
Depending on your speed and the size of the Patch of gravel, the time and distance covered between being layed over, sttod up and layed back in to the corner can be just a quick flick.
Say it's a left corner, and you're about to the apex and there's a slick spot, and it's too late to change course, what do you do?

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by oldNslow on 01/24/16 at 11:43:01


Quote:
Say it's a left corner, and you're about to the apex and there's a slick spot, and it's too late to change course, what do you do?


Nothing. And I'm not being a smart-a**. Unless you're Valentino Rossi and have his reflexes and balance any input from you will be more likely to cause a crash. Let the bike figure it out without any help from you.

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/24/16 at 21:58:31

Not having time to change course doesn't mean no time to make a crash less likely. Everything going on that's Using traction is adding up to a slide. Reduce the loads on the tires. Stand the bike up for a split second. If you're on the brakes, ease up, on the gas, ease up.

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by oldNslow on 01/25/16 at 05:53:04


2F3036312C2B1A2A1A22303C77450 wrote:
Not having time to change course doesn't mean no time to make a crash less likely. Everything going on that's Using traction is adding up to a slide. Reduce the loads on the tires. Stand the bike up for a split second. If you're on the brakes, ease up, on the gas, ease up.


Yeah, if you've got enough room to stand the bike up a bit and run wide without winding up in the other lane or off the rod once you're through the turn maybe. But a slide doesn't automatically mean a crash. The most common reaction to the situation you described is to slam the throttle closed and tighten your grip on the bars. Doing that will almost certainly put you down.

Title: Re: Savage Upgrades
Post by Art Webb on 01/25/16 at 09:17:29

the bunch of us riding from Columbus to run the Sisters hit a fer dang sher slickery spot, in a curve, at 70+
some of nearly changed lanes during the loss of traction
none of us crashed
myself i attribute that to the slide being over before I had time to get scared and do the wrong thing

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