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Title: any triumph fans? Post by DesertRat on 12/25/15 at 15:17:35 Triumph Thruxton? ya or nay? I'm diggin' this bike ... http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/motorcycles/2012models/2012-Triumph-Thruxton6.jpg http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201309/2014-triumph-thruxton-6_800x0w.jpg http://www.musicswapshoppe.com/images/thruxton20s03Hinckley.jpg |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by zipidachimp on 12/25/15 at 15:31:40 My opinion: this bike falls into the category of 'bigger is not better'. At 650/750cc this would have been a bigger winner. Where I live, there is an insurance break at 750cc. Above that, these new Triumphs don't have the performance, but all the weight of larger, better bikes, but you pay the higher insurance. Modern 650/750 Bonnies would have sold out easily, every year. YMMV! 8-) ps: high value/perf for few dollars is my fav: Yam FZ07 !!!!! |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by DesertRat on 12/25/15 at 15:36:55 what about the T100 series? |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by zipidachimp on 12/25/15 at 15:42:36 for the same money/lower weight, a Duc Scrambler!! |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by DesertRat on 12/25/15 at 15:52:01 the Ducati Scrambler's aren't the same styling |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by zipidachimp on 12/25/15 at 15:59:40 You win! I like the thruxton styling, just don't wanna pay for it!! 8-) |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by old.indian on 12/25/15 at 16:32:23 'Rat: If you like the café style check out the Royal Enfield . :) |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by springman on 12/25/15 at 18:24:29 Yep. Good looking but a bit pricey. But definitely good looking. |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by MMRanch on 12/25/15 at 18:52:16 I would have got the SpeedMaster if it was belt drive instead of Chain. So I got my Sportster. ::) |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by Art Webb on 12/25/15 at 19:12:33 love the look, but gotta agree with it needing to be a 650 / 700 |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by Dave on 12/26/15 at 04:26:47 I believe the larger cc engines provide more torque and the ability to ride with less shifting than the smaller 650/750 bikes....and a higher top speed and more relaxed engine at highway speeds. The Rockers were challenged to do the ton on their 60's era Triumph 650's, and bike owners today expect more performance when they spend this much money. |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by DesertRat on 12/26/15 at 05:09:57 Dave, would you like this bike for long rides (road trips)? |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by DesertRat on 12/26/15 at 05:10:21 http://https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fd/38/1e/fd381ec1b13861807f3fe704debe03b8.jpg |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by old.indian on 12/26/15 at 08:14:55 One of the local old guys has a newer Triumph that he's put over 15K on. When I see him, I'll get his input. |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by zipidachimp on 12/26/15 at 11:34:49 as a former owner of a BSA Thunderbolt, 650 was plenty, 750 would have been paradise. At that time, the Vincent was 1000cc and rare, Norton was 750, Honda became 750, and then Kawasaki opened the door to popular large displacement bikes with a 900, and the escalation in displacement was underway. But the mass of riders, harley excepted, did well with 500/650 bikes. Highways were no problem with my thunderbolt. Admission: I've never owned anything larger than my 650, and never felt the need, so take my rambling with a grain of salt. Cheers! 8-) |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by DesertRat on 12/26/15 at 12:17:20 thanks old indian, I'll check back. zipidachimp, I appreciate your input. What new model cafe styled Triumph's are 750's? |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by gizzo on 12/26/15 at 12:35:49 Yeah, I'm into it too. Beautiful. My 2c- if they'd made a new triumph in smaller capacity it wouldn't sell so they have to go big. People would just complain its too small, too slow and all that. Like the W650. That's an 800 here now as well. The Enfield GT gets canned mercilessly by straight line heros in the peanut gallery, who've never ridden one, for the same reason: to small at 535cc, too slow. I'd have the Thruxton, but would have to choose between that and the duc scrambler and guzzi v7 8-) |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by Dave on 12/26/15 at 12:46:34 517066706761477461150 wrote:
I think it would be a great "Day Trip" bike.....but for long rides you would be better off with a windshield and bags for your gear. |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by DesertRat on 12/26/15 at 13:04:17 thanks Dave, day trippin' is more my speed, maybe an over night every coupla years |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by DesertRat on 12/26/15 at 13:11:35 gizzo, I went hunting for reviews on the Enfield GT, and the vast majority make the same claims, the quality is not there for the asking price: https://youtu.be/uDsWyiAbCJQ |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by gizzo on 12/26/15 at 13:28:06 You're right, but most reviews are by young flakes who have no experience with singles, classics or old tech. Of course it's not keeping up with a 600cc crotch rocket. They have no other single experience to compare the enfield with, and they test new bikes. The enfield need a really long break into give it's best. My GT shook quite a bit when it was new but by 2500 miles it smoothed out and now it's not really any worse than the Savage. Not bad for an uncounterbalanced single. I've done lots of long rides and it will cruise at 70mph all day. Overtaking is a chore though. Not much power in reserve, for sure. I've already measured it up and if the Enfield engine breaks in a big way, i can fit a Savage engine in there 8-). A triumph twin will fit, too... |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by DesertRat on 12/26/15 at 13:49:16 it's the "hipster" crowd gizzo. I agree, but comments like cheezy/cheap and looking at the controls, I start questioning country of TRUE origin (china??). if it breaks, you get an instant upgrade by pluggin the s40 engine in there 8-) |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by zipidachimp on 12/26/15 at 13:49:17 had no money when the W650 came out or I would have one. The RS Shadow was something similar, but heavy. The Guzzi V7 would be a good choice, and now I've got the money, but also arthritis in my knees, so love my feet forward S40 hotrod and my Vulcan 500. 8-) |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by pg on 12/26/15 at 14:08:34 A little ways back I was looking to get a basic Bonneville, so I did a good bit of research. They are extremely reliable, very smooth, often described as having linear throttle, with absolute terrible suspension. Here is a comprehensive review. http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/model_eval/2009NovBnville.pdf Best regards, |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by old.indian on 12/26/15 at 14:12:22 'rat: Royals are made in India. There is a dealer in Phoenix who has a couple you can eyeball, and I know a guy in Kansas who bought one last summer.. My back won't take the riding position of a café racer, although I know of a couple back roads that would be a blast..... |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by gizzo on 12/26/15 at 16:21:59 1E3F293F282E083B2E5A0 wrote:
The controls and switches are made in India. That's no better,and possibly worse,than China but there it is. The majority of the bike is reasonable quality but some is rubbish and the assembly was really sloppy. Needed lots of pulling apart, loctite, new fasteners. The engine is nice , tinware suspension and brakes excellent. I wouldn't recommend anyone buy one tho, lest I be blamed if they were disappointed. But I love it. Saw a new 500 Vulcan the other day, looks nicer in the real than the photos. |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by jcstokes on 12/26/15 at 16:59:14 Here in NZ a brand new S40 is $NZ 8500, cheapest RE, the Bullet is $NZ 8795. If I wanted nostalgia, I'd buy a 1950's bike. |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by gizzo on 12/26/15 at 17:26:55 Fair enough. But I couldn't buy a '67 250 Continental GT in Australia. + I really CBF looking after another high maintenance classic. Its nice to have a bike you can just get on and ride. |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by jcstokes on 12/26/15 at 23:03:02 That's why I brought an S40. |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by DesertRat on 12/27/15 at 06:41:11 gizzo, the last time I had controls like that they were a nightmare. Bought a couple inexpensive import atv's for the kids and had those types on them. I like the RE styling, but to drop that much money and still have to "repair" the suspension and torque the nuts and bolts???? If it was a used bike, I'd be okay with repair and maintenance that I had no idea whether or not the PO had performed. I'm still finding "issues" with my S40. ;) |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by Serowbot on 12/27/15 at 08:09:15 Prettiest tank, ever... I like the new Triumphs... Well made, beautiful finish... http://www.musicswapshoppe.com/images/thruxton20s03Hinckley.jpg |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by DesertRat on 12/27/15 at 08:11:36 oh yeah Bot, that tank sets this bike off. The whole chrome thing has this one dialed in. |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by gizzo on 12/27/15 at 13:46:02 Yeah that's hot 8-). |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by DesertRat on 12/27/15 at 13:58:23 5D4B5C41594C415A2E0 wrote:
http://www.musicswapshoppe.com/images/thruxton20s03Hinckley.jpg Is this a STOCK Triumph tank? If so, what model, year? |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by pg on 12/27/15 at 14:03:20 507167716660467560140 wrote:
It is not truly dialed in till it gets the mud flap. ;D Best regards, |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by Serowbot on 12/27/15 at 14:22:19 Black and chrome,... easy to see where I stole the idea from... ;D http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/tm002.jpg |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by DesertRat on 12/27/15 at 14:47:40 this was the closest I could find: $1043.57 US :o http://www.squaredeals-ltd.co.uk/triumph-cafe-racer-polished-alloy-gas-tank--triton-style-fuel-tank-in-stock-for-immediate-dispatch-28606-p.asp http://www.squaredeals-ltd.co.uk/ekmps/shops/squaredealsmot/images/triumph-cafe-racer-polished-alloy-gas-tank-triton-style-fuel-tank.-in-stock-for-immediate-dispatch.-[3]-28606-p.jpg |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by Serowbot on 12/27/15 at 14:52:48 Close... "alloy Lyta tank from T.A. Baker in Wales" They call it a "Sprint" tank... http://www.thetankshop.com/ http://caferacertv.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/velocity-cafe-racer-tv-season-3-bike-of-the-week-triumph-thruxton-5.jpg [url][/url] |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by DesertRat on 12/27/15 at 15:01:22 OMG Bot, I'M IN STUPID LOVE. THAT BIKE WOW O WOW |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by Serowbot on 12/27/15 at 15:17:55 Currently, 8 bikes down,.. this page... 8-) http://caferacertv.com/category/bike-of-the-week/page/3/ http://caferacertv.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/velocity-cafe-racer-tv-season-3-bike-of-the-week-triumph-thruxton-6.jpg |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by DesertRat on 12/27/15 at 15:33:54 there's a few bikes I consider works of art and this is one |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by gizzo on 12/27/15 at 15:58:27 The Tank Shop must be doing something right: He asks to be contacted by real mail if the phone isn't answered, has a 40 week waiting list (!) for new jobs and is still able to sell them at a price which will put food on the table. Well played, sir. And good to know there are still people out there prepared to stump up for quality work instead of chasing the cheapest option. |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by MMRanch on 12/27/15 at 18:03:50 Bot ! :o You got a nice looking bike there ! 8-) |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by pg on 12/27/15 at 22:15:57 I have to ask. How long does it take before you start feeling fatigued leaning over when riding one of those? I'm guessing you feel it between your shoulder blades. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by gizzo on 12/27/15 at 22:30:58 It depends. If you go fast enough (60mph+ I guess), the wind takes your body weight. Around town, my wrists get tired after maybe 40 min, but it's easy to take your body weight with your core muscles and legs for as long as you need. Also depends on how low the bars are, of course. |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by LostArtist on 12/28/15 at 17:51:50 the suspension on new Triumphs is only poor if you compare it to modern day sport bikes, it's on par with everything else in it's price range and it's much better than the 2 inches of travel that Harley gives you on some of their sportster models. the NEW NEW Triumphs are looking really nice, the Street Twin (replacing the base Bonneville) looks awesome, http://ridermagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Triumph-Street-Twin-beauty-R.jpg the new Thruxton R with the 1/4 fairing and upspec suspension is beautiful, it's tank looks more like the chrome tank you all love,it's not exactly like that but it's in the direction. http://https://krazeddotnet.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/triumph_bonneville_2016.jpg?w=748&h=421 And despite the addition of water cooling, they've lost like 40 lbs. oh and there's a 1200 cc option for the Thruxton and Bonneville T120, and if it wasn't for the spokes, I'd be seriously considering the T120 to replace my 2010 Bonneville. the T120 http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/2016-triumph-bonneville-t120-and-t120-black-first-photos-look-smashing-photo-gallery-101440-7.jpg |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by Art Webb on 12/29/15 at 09:38:42 7E696F636C7C0E0 wrote:
Actively squeezing the tank with your knees automatically shifts the pressure from arms to torso, but yes, you can get sore between the shoulder blades until you get used to it street twin = Drool T120 too |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by pg on 12/29/15 at 11:14:40 Do you ever get used to it? It would be a costly mistake to buy one and realize you have no desire to ride it after about 30 minutes. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by Art Webb on 12/30/15 at 07:40:51 Yes and no you do get used to it, and the soreness goes away, but poodling about around town for long rides at low speed will always wear on you Around town the cruiser shines On the highway and especially in the esses, the sporty bike is more fun Me, I like standards, aka UJMs, but not the ones with too many cylinders (any more than 2 is too many) ;D |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by Dave on 12/30/15 at 08:19:08 756264686777050 wrote:
That same thought was in the back of my mind when I was converting my Savage to a Cafe' bike. I was concerned that I was making a bike that was not comfortable to ride. The suitability of the seating position sort of depends on the bike, your size and shape, etc. My Cafe' bike conversion was not too bad and I could ride all day long when we were on the Dragon runs as we would stop every 100 miles to fuel the bikes up and that gave a bit of a rest and allowed me to stand up and stretch regularly. The RYCA seat is very thinly padded on the edges, and I found the clip on's were angled down a bit too far and made my wrists tired. This year I had new seat upholstery made and I welded bars for the clip ons that rotated up 4 degrees to make the bars a bit more flat....and it has helped to make the bike fit me better. If you are in poor physical condition and have aches/pains that bother you daily.......it could be a riding position that would not work well for you. |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by Flint on 12/31/15 at 20:41:44 I used to have a 500 Triumph, nice bike. The new Triumphs are heavy pigs in my opinion. Actually I feel the new Sportsters are heavy pigs as well and I used to be a real Harley fan. |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by pg on 12/31/15 at 22:05:11 If you are in poor physical condition and have aches/pains that bother you daily.......it could be a riding position that would not work well for you. Thanks, :-/ |
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Title: Re: any triumph fans? Post by Art Webb on 01/01/16 at 07:01:11 6752464A452B0 wrote:
Pretty much all bikes are heavy pigs now compared to yesteryear Some exceptions, S40, Rebel, other small machines, but the big ones have mostly gotten bigger, at least in the US |
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