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Message started by cheapnewb24 on 12/23/15 at 11:29:13

Title: Kernel Panic!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 12/23/15 at 11:29:13

The discussion on self-driving cars reminds me of the fact that Linux crashes too :Gasp!:

For all you Linux Lovers/Windows Haters out there, Fess up! How many times has your almighty Linux box crashed on you? ;)

I run OpenSuse, by the way ;)

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 12/23/15 at 11:33:32

Here's a cute little poll :)

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/23/15 at 11:50:26

I clicked on this thinking it was about the deep human tragedy everyone knows and understands when someone has carelessly allowed the pantry to run out of popcorn.

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by Oldfeller on 12/23/15 at 12:19:14

So Justin, honestly answer the poll -- how many times has Linux crashed on you?

You do use Linux all the time, BTW -- it runs the internet and everything else around you EXCEPT your Windows based PC.

;)

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Post by Serowbot on 12/23/15 at 12:27:57

I can crash that... :-?

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/23/15 at 13:16:11

I don't know enough to answer it. I'm using a Kindle. It's not perfect, I think the slow down it goes through occasionally is more the fault of the service provider than the software. I do flush cookies and all the bits and bytes that sites put on it every now and then, but have no idea about how better to maintain the speed or reliability..
All in all, I like the Kindle better than any other internet interfacing experience I've had.
Unlike the desktop computer and the tower with the mother board and power supply and different drive options and fans , I can haul this around the house, watch T.V.,whatever, and piddled around. I have seen it lock up, but it has never failed to come back and I have never used or known how to even go about running anti-virus software or Doing anything more than the options given just by dragging the drop down list onto the screen. For all I know there is a Turbo enhancement available in the app store. Or, a hard drive defrag, I dunno. I don't even remember what I was told the OS is.
I'm to computers what the average teen age girl is to cars. Turn it on, it's Supposed to Go. If not, dial 1-800- HelpMe...

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by Oldfeller on 12/23/15 at 13:57:29

Justin,

You use a proprietary fork of open Android as modified (and restricted) by Amazon. This is Linux, so you can answer the poll.

The stuff is intended to KEEP you on Amazon and show you stuff to buy from Amazon. It does a good job of that.

It is always behind the times as far as being current goes, but since you value "it just works 100% of the time" more than anything else this is likely a good thing for you.

Fact, it does anything/everything you want or need. Fire tablets are like Chromebooks, the folks who use them love them and wouldn't change if you wanted them to.

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Do you talk in your posts or do you type them out?

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 12/23/15 at 16:43:50

Ever had your linux box wake up to an unresponsive blank screen? Not even a flashing cursor. Nothing--Dead--but it's still awake--kinda ::).

Ever had it wake up to a background terminal spitting out technical garbage before deciding it's crashed?

Ever had it spit out the word "panic"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_panic

I believe I have seen kernel panics before on my machines (at least my laptop) for various reasons. Sometimes a failure to wake properly. Other times, it had to do with playing with bootable flash drive utilities and stuff like that.

It's been a while since I've had a real full blown memory dump type kernel panic (terminal spitting garbage). However, my laptop gave the "running but not running--didn't quite wake up" type thing maybe a few days ago. I don't remember quite how long ago.

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by Gus on 12/24/15 at 06:44:45

I still have and use one of the first Motorola Xoom's. It has been an extremely dependable machine. It has crashed a few time in 4 years but not many. I've never lost any data. Good machine in my estimation.

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by Oldfeller on 12/24/15 at 07:51:25

Nope, never have. Seriously. Never.

But I don't run a laptop either.

I would think you might want to swap distros to something more laptop friendly. Ubuntu and its derivatives seem to do laptops better than most of the old school Linux distros.

Burn a DVD or two and try the Ubuntu group -- you can get whatever desktop you want in them now-a-days if you look at the selection just a bit before downloading.

I like Gnome, so I can always get what I like in Linux Mint, in two minty flavors no less.

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 12/24/15 at 18:38:14

Ubuntu was my first Linux distro, If I remember correctly. Still have 12.04 on here, just never use it. It's probably so out of date, it would take an eon just to update it. I wonder how many months, or years :o it's been since I cranked it up. Don't remember how many times I crashed Ubuntu. Might have done it, though. Don't remember for certain, but I seem to remember doing it.

I run KDE myself, and, compared to Gnome and Unity, I think I prefer it, to some degree. It's configurable. Gnome-- the newer one (3.x, I think)-- is kinda weird, and Unity is okay.... :-?, but neither are configurable. Didn't really give gnome 3 much of a chance. Gnome 2 is alright :). I guess that is what Mint has, or had. Never tried Mint. I've done Ubuntu, Peppermint (only permanently on my Pentium 4), and OpenSuse. Only those 2 distros long term. I've played around with live cd's/flash drives of Xubuntu, Lubuntu, and Mageia. I've tried Xfce on Suse too. Haven't played with any of that stuff in a long time. I just run OpenSuse, and, for now, it works great.

The great thing about KDE is the configurability (besides the Windows-esqeness and the eye candy). I have a widget that can monitor the levels and/or activity of the CPU, Ram, Swap, Harddrive, and network, as well as CPU temperature (5 different readings at that! :o).

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/24/15 at 19:01:53

You mean I can Talk to this thing and it will type it?

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 12/24/15 at 19:11:25

HUH? :-?

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by Oldfeller on 12/24/15 at 19:38:28

Yep, kit kat Android 4.4.4 and more modern will let you talk in a post.

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/24/15 at 21:33:31

How do I find out? This one is from 2014.

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Post by Oldfeller on 12/24/15 at 21:45:45

Doesn't the fire tablet have a community site?

I ask making the ASSumption that it is still Android enough to have android functions and that you can run Chrome plus browser on it.

Heck, I can put Chrome plus browser on an iPad 2 from Apple and talk to it.

Justin, you have to learn how to use it yourself, but a Fire Community Forum would help you immensely.

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/25/15 at 05:36:35

I saw my daughter talk to her phone.

Text husband

Phone said

You want me to text husband?

Yes
Okay, what do you want me to say?

Call me ASAP.

Phone says
Okay, texted ,

Call me a sap.

Funny and amazing at the same time.

Actually, I'm lazy enough, and I Like the way I type.

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by old_rider on 12/25/15 at 06:43:25

Posted it in another post, had Linux 17 loaded and had a boot up crash error.... don't even remember what it said, something about a "critical error"
So I dumped it and put windows vista back on it (took me 3 days though).
Cant run my home security program on it, they haven't developed a Linux version yet.

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by Art Webb on 12/25/15 at 09:04:13

5251594F5459584F3D0 wrote:

My home security system consists of shriek alarms and a mean bastard of a home owner (I use the term 'home' loosely here)

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by zipidachimp on 12/25/15 at 11:41:13

My mint 17 doesn't crash, but it will freeze too bloody often. Trying one screen in chrome and one in FF to reduce frequency of freezes.
BTW, am I the only one who thinks FF has been updated too often? When did it break, and why was it fixed? It was more useful 3 years ago, now it's a real pain. Simple is better! 8-)

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by old_rider on 12/28/15 at 19:00:53

I use Fire Fox for my windows XP and Vista PC's.... IE 7 will not update on one (15 year old computer) so I have to use fire fox on it to be able to view the net.
If they stop building FF, my XP and Vista laptops will not be useable to search the net with, but that don't worry me none, I have plenty of old 5" smart phones and a couple of 10" tablets with android software that will keep up with the world.
And of course my main laptop with win 10... which has its good days and bad days... so far today, its a good day. ;D

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by Face on 12/28/15 at 19:45:14

Been runnin' Ubuntu 14.04 for almost a year on a new laptop. Never crashed, never froze, the most stable system I've ever had.

Running Easy Peasy Linux on an Asus eeepc netbook for about 9 months, never crashed, never froze.

Running Android kitkat on my first smart phone for about 5 months, it's a little buggy sometimes, but always recovers and never crashed.

Have decided I prefer the Unity desktop over Gnome, but that might be due to my history with Windows.

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by cheapnewb24 on 12/31/15 at 15:22:11

By the way, KDE crashed on me today and restarted itself, but the OS itself was fine, so it did not have to totally reboot. I have to restart my programs, though.

Title: Re: Kernel Panic!
Post by Art Webb on 01/01/16 at 08:15:51

yesterday I saw some chickens making a meal out of corn they'd been tossed
Hard to be sure, because corn can't run, but those kernels looked panicked to me ;D