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Message started by warrenhill on 12/14/15 at 13:37:00

Title: A different approach to sidecar
Post by warrenhill on 12/14/15 at 13:37:00

Just completed, and thought perhaps members might enjoy checking out our sidecar rig: Savage with Harley fenders, matching replaced Ural sidecar fender. (Dressed for Christmas.) Much of the tech aspects came off of this very valuable site. 3rd Sidecar build for us, first with Savage. More pics uploaded below.

Title: Re: A different approach to sidecar
Post by KennyG on 12/14/15 at 17:35:54

That is a really nice looking setup.

Kenny G

Title: Re: A different approach to sidecar
Post by Kris01 on 12/14/15 at 17:38:45

Looks really good! I'm just wondering if it's strong enough to pull it. I've read about different people being disappointed with the performance.

Title: Re: A different approach to sidecar
Post by warrenhill on 12/14/15 at 18:48:56

So long as 60 to 65 MPH is your required maximum speed, then the Savage has enough to pull the sidecar along with a 128 pound wife along for the ride in the car. And, thank you for the compliments. The fabrication was a bit strained initially since I prefer a sidecar wheel set about 16 inches forward, rather than 12: handles better.

Title: Re: A different approach to sidecar
Post by Kris01 on 12/14/15 at 19:40:04

If you're happy with the performance then that's all that matters! ;)

Title: Re: A different approach to sidecar
Post by Jer on 12/14/15 at 20:05:21

Neat! Got any pics of the fabrication, how it's attached, etc? Nice job.

Title: Re: A different approach to sidecar
Post by Dave on 12/15/15 at 03:18:16

It appears a bit of the paint for the motorcycle and sidecar might be on the garage floor. (Been there.....Done That!).

It looks really nice. Is it hilly or flat where you live?

Title: Re: A different approach to sidecar
Post by warrenhill on 12/15/15 at 07:09:55

Jer and Dave:

I'll gather more pics. It's been too cold to ride or go to the garage except for very short periods. We're in Kingman, AZ, and the terrain is mixed here with hills, mountains, and flatlands. 12 miles away one can ascend to the peak of the Hualapai Mountains (Wallapai) and that gives a bike a good workout, or one can just cruise out to California using the Old Route 66 and it's fairly level except for one "short" pass.

Yes, that is paint on the garage floor. On the walls to test the "fan" and other places. My domain. Separate building. No complaining allowed by wife permitted or I boycott other work on the house.

Title: Re: A different approach to sidecar
Post by warrenhill on 12/15/15 at 16:40:38

I guess I have to do this a pic at a time...

Title: Re: A different approach to sidecar
Post by warrenhill on 12/15/15 at 16:45:10

Sidecar attachment is a combination of direct bolt to brake plate combined with adjustment strut in the front. In the back, angle iron with welded sleeves and replaced the pivot bolt with metric all thread and locked down with double nuts. (Maybe tack weld it later to "keep my nuts from falling off.") Adjustment strut under seat at junction with a welded plate inside frame. Looks a little funky but is very stable - overdone, in fact - and allows the free movement of the swingarm.

Title: Re: A different approach to sidecar
Post by Art Webb on 12/16/15 at 11:10:21

Major cool

Title: Re: A different approach to sidecar
Post by Mavigogun on 09/24/20 at 06:53:17

6076656572797F7E7B7B170 wrote:

Looks a little funky but is very stable - overdone, in fact - and allows the free movement of the swingarm.

Title: Re: A different approach to sidecar
Post by LANCER on 09/24/20 at 07:37:31

That is way perdy stuff there.
Really nice.

Title: Re: A different approach to sidecar
Post by verslagen1 on 09/24/20 at 10:20:15

363A2D323C343C2E355B0 wrote:

[quote author=6076656572797F7E7B7B170 link=1450129026/0#9 date=1450226710]Looks a little funky but is very stable - overdone, in fact - and allows the free movement of the swingarm.

The area around the brake-foot looks extremely congested- is it still a functional control?

(A gobsmacking number of pie-cuts making up that exhaust- unrelated to the question, but, just WOW! -a lot of TIG time!)
[/quote]

Looks like flexible exhaust pipe to me.

Please show more on the frame connections.
Not for me... for a friend. ;D

Title: Re: A different approach to sidecar
Post by Dave on 09/24/20 at 12:50:12

Versy:

This is a 5 year old thread........Warrenhill has not been on the website since 2016.

I doubt you or Mavigogun will get a response.

Title: Re: A different approach to sidecar
Post by LANCER on 09/24/20 at 14:53:02

I could not see clearly but it looked a bit like a flex pipe to me.

Title: Re: A different approach to sidecar
Post by Dennisgb on 09/24/20 at 15:34:59

This is an old thread I saw it a while ago when I started on my Sidecar project. The way the OP connected it is a little unorthodox. He welded the two together from what I can tell.

I’m fabricating a subframe to go on the engine bolts underneath to get the strength I need. Using the “Swans” neck from the frame down tube.