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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> Heartwarming words /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1449678349 Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 12/09/15 at 08:25:49 |
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Title: Heartwarming words Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/09/15 at 08:25:49 e sheriff also spoke directly to President Obama, reminding him of the importance of the Second Amendment and that an attempt to confiscate Americans’ firearms would “cause a revolution.” “Now, Mr. Obama, you need to understand what the Second Amendment is for. It is not for hunting. It is there for the American people to protect themselves against the criminal elements, to protect themselves from terrorists and radical ideology and it’s also there to protect us against the government that has over reached its power. “You are not our potentate, sir. You are our servant to serve and protect us first, and I suggest sir, since you’re a constitutional expert that you better review our history on the Constitution and understand that we are a free people and we are subject to no one other than the Almighty God and Jesus Christ the King. “And as such sir, I strongly encourage you to trust the law-abiding American citizen because you won’t fail in that and we won’t let you down. “But if you try to disarm us, sir, then you will cause a revolution in this country to occur. So, please revise your thinking because we are not your enemy, the law-abiding gun owner in this country.” The call to arms follows others from sheriffs across the country, including one from Kentucky, Boone County Sheriff Michael Helmig, who told licensed residents it was their “responsibility to carry their firearm.” From a North Texas Sheriff... |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by Serowbot on 12/09/15 at 09:02:09 2C3335322F2819291921333F74460 wrote:
;D ;D ;D... |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/09/15 at 09:31:55 You too might benefit from the history and base of the legal system and founding principles. Yet again, you've latched on to the One part , ignoring the whole of the meaning and content, because you see a few words you can ridicule. We go down together. Or, we stay afloat. When will the direction become obvious for everyone? Bubs and Dems HATE the Constitution. We need to get it back. |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/09/15 at 20:05:18 Anything? What about the Core of what he said? Anyone? |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by old.indian on 12/09/15 at 20:55:25 Northfield, MN September 7th 1876 Coffeeville, KS October 5th 1892 This is NOT the same society as existed at that time. In this society very few of the citizens who have weapons can be trusted to act responsibly in the situations of those natures.. |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/09/15 at 22:52:39 That's an opinion. Not one to just erase the rights of the People. |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by old.indian on 12/10/15 at 08:44:09 7F6066617C7B4A7A4A72606C27150 wrote:
What I am saying is that having a weapon and possessing the experience, skill and mature sense of RESPONABILITY to utilize it properly are NOT mutually inclusive........ Just because I have the financial and legal ability to obtain the latest wiz-bang-go-faster 200 horsepower superbike is no indication that I possess the skills to jockey it down the road to it's full potential. |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by Serowbot on 12/10/15 at 08:53:30 +1... EDIT... made a redundant post,.. corrected it... :-[... |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by Paraquat on 12/10/15 at 11:10:08 2E382F322A3F32295D0 wrote:
There he goes again, in favor of bombing... --Steve |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/13/15 at 06:53:50 Ya know, considering that the country's just over run by idiots, maybe guns are a bad idea. But, I suggest you guys understand the mindset of the men who , didn't Give, but guaranteed, our Rights. If I intended to ride a 200 MPH bike, it's My responsibility to either learn how or be prepared to pay the consequences, should I get in over my head. The Notion that I or someone else Shouldn't be allowed to buy one, because some moron bought one and crashed it is ludicrous and to pretend that because someone might not be perfect with a gun means no one should have them is equally, if not more so ridiculous. It's Not a perfect world and no laws or restrictions will make it so. The car jacking fad ended, only AFTER a few car jackers got gut shot. How many cops have wrongly shot someone? Yet, Tis I, who should be disarmed. Because of someone else's fear that I might not be perfect with the gun. How many are imperfect with the car? Shall we ban the car? |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by DesertRat on 12/13/15 at 07:37:16 61626A2067606A676F600E0 wrote:
you're joking right? :o There are 21.8 million veterans of the U.S. armed forces as of 2014, according the Census Bureau, approximately 10 percent of whom are women. To put that in context there are 319.2 million Americans, according to the bureau. and that's just VETS. Not counting all those who HUNT and are law abiding citizens who CAN handle themselves. |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by old.indian on 12/13/15 at 08:44:55 270610061117310217630 wrote:
you're joking right? :o There are 21.8 million veterans of the U.S. armed forces as of 2014, according the Census Bureau, approximately 10 percent of whom are women. To put that in context there are 319.2 million Americans, according to the bureau. and that's just VETS. Not counting all those who HUNT and are law abiding citizens who CAN handle themselves.[/quote] Joking ???? He## NO !!!! I spent 4 months as a weapons instructor at Camp Pendleton...... Dropped grenades, loaded weapons in my face, etc. etc... Of the 21.8 million vets, how many have actual weapons TRAINNING, NOT "familiarization" ... Combat TRAINNING ???? I have a friend who is a Police weapons trainer and range officer back east, and his tales of veteran police officers attempted violence and mayhem on their selves and/or fellows around them.. Muzzle down, (in the dirt) use handgun as support to rise from prone position..... Misfire? Lower weapon, eject round with finger on trigger, weapon fires missing officer on your right's foot by two inches. Hunters ???? There was a farmer who painted "C O W" on old bossy in the barn yard .... I needn't tell the rest.... :-/ And NO I wouldn't go hunting with ex VP Cheney either........ |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by DesertRat on 12/13/15 at 09:29:06 Deaths and Mortality: Number of deaths: 2,596,993 Death rate: 821.5 deaths per 100,000 population Life expectancy: 78.8 years Infant Mortality rate: 5.96 deaths per 1,000 live births Number of deaths for leading causes of death: Heart disease: 611,105 Cancer: 584,881 Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 149,205 Accidents (unintentional injuries): 130,557 Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 128,978 Alzheimer's disease: 84,767 Diabetes: 75,578 Influenza and Pneumonia: 56,979 Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 47,112 Intentional self-harm (suicide): 41,149 Let's go after the medical industry, THEY are the 3rd Leading Cause of Death in the United States via MALPRACTICE. That is the facts. I'll take my chances being armed and trained. |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by Serowbot on 12/13/15 at 09:44:23 Not so worried about someone hurting themselves,... ...worried about them hurting me... I have a different standard of training for that... ;D... |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by DesertRat on 12/13/15 at 09:56:52 The numbers don't lie. I have better odds ARMED in public than going to the doctor. All injury deaths Number of deaths: 192,945 Deaths per 100,000 population: 60.2 All poisoning deaths Number of deaths: 48,545 Deaths per 100,000 population: 15.4 All Drug poisoning deaths Deaths per 100,000 population: 13.9 Motor vehicle traffic deaths Number of deaths: 33,804 Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.7 All firearm deaths Number of deaths: 33,636 Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.6 |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by oldNslow on 12/13/15 at 10:17:19 There are about 335 million people in the US, and an estimated 270 million guns in civilian hands. If gun owners were as irresponsible and as dangerous as sero and oldindian believe we'd all be dead or at least very well perforated by now. |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by Serowbot on 12/13/15 at 10:41:37 Statistically speaking,.. a gun in the home, is more likely to kill a family member than an intruder... ... and statistics don't lie... Statistics, are only good when we agree with them... ;D |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by DesertRat on 12/13/15 at 11:03:50 once upon a time, with 5 kids in the house, AND a boatload of firearms, not a single "killing", unless you're counting the deer, rabbits and other food stuffs??? |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by WebsterMark on 12/13/15 at 11:09:26 If we can entrust a 15 yesr old girl to make the decision to terminate a baby, certainly we should be able to entrust people to decide if they want to carry a weapon. |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by Serowbot on 12/13/15 at 11:13:47 That stat must be wrong then... :-/... Don't look at me,... I didn't break my wrist firing a 12 gauge cowboy style... ;D... PS... Desert Rat and Old Indian have post counts way too low... You two, just aren't trying hard enough to make fools of yourselves... Get to work... ;D... |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by DesertRat on 12/13/15 at 11:28:32 Yeah, well Bot, to my credit, I'm not too brite! It was a single barrel break action old school JC Penny 12GA. I should have realized that my small size would impact the physics required to pull it off. The girls 20GA is easy one handed. ;) |
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Title: Re: Heartwarming words Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/13/15 at 16:54:18 7F4D4A5B5C4D5A65495A43280 wrote:
While requiring a parent sign papers to let a kid go on a field trip. |
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