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Message started by Sonny on 12/08/15 at 09:52:00

Title: Wobble extensions
Post by Sonny on 12/08/15 at 09:52:00

Just on an impulse a while back I picked up a set of  wobble socket extenders at HF. Greatest thing since sliced bread.

The drawback is that they reduce the contact area inside the socket but that's only an issue if high force is needed. But boy do they free up your access to fasteners and also, maybe best of all, prevent rounding damage to bolt heads from crooked contact with them.

I guess these items are sockets 101 to the trained mechanic, but I have stumbled and cussed through life without them and now... much better thank you.

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by KennyG on 12/08/15 at 10:05:44

Sonny,

Another socket that makes life easier is the sockets with a built in universal joint. You can get at fasteners with them that are really difficult to get a socket on.

Kenny G

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by Sonny on 12/08/15 at 10:25:50

Yes, I'm sure they do, and they don't have the problem of narrowing the contact area inside the driven end of the socket.

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by pg on 12/08/15 at 10:54:37

HF is a great place for us amateur mechanics. I have picked up all kinds of hand tolls during the past two years.   8-)

Best regards,


Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by Dave on 12/08/15 at 12:18:22

I just bought a welding cart from Harbor Freight to put my new Eastwood Welder on.  It was on sale for $ 39....and will work just fine and was 1/3rd the price that Eastwood wanted for their cart.

You do have to sort through and pick/choose what you buy from them, as some of it works and some is nothing but garbage.  Their rubber gloves are great.....their mechanics gloves are crappy.

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/08/15 at 12:49:27

A painter gave me some blue rubber gloves from the paint store.
Much better than the
Rip while putting them on
alleged gloves.

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by old_rider on 12/08/15 at 17:06:37


392E28242B3B490 wrote:
HF is a great place for us amateur mechanics. I have picked up all kinds of hand tolls during the past two years.   8-)

Best regards,


Wait a minute there bub! :)

I've been a mechanic fer about 40 years now...and a mech in training for 10 years before that....
And I LOVE harbor freight.... LOL.... break one, go buy another one... for 1/5 the price of a new one....
And some of them Chinese forged ones sometimes work better than US brand ones :)

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by KennyG on 12/08/15 at 20:49:32

I recently broke one of the open end ratchet end wrenches and I returned it to Harbor Freight and they replaced it free of charge.

The clerk told me that most of the Harbor Freight  hand tools have a lifetime warranty.

I collected a couple of times on Craftsman tools lifetime warranty

At my age supplying a lifetime warranty is not much of a risk for the manufacturer.....LOL

Kenny G

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by Sonny on 12/08/15 at 21:56:32

I'm much more likely to lose a tool than to break it. Too bad they're not guaranteed against loss.

Those HF ratchet end wrenches are a real pleasure to use. They cut out a lot of annoyances turning fasteners.

I squeeze the ratchet and move the wrench to see which way the ratchet is pushing. But you could also put a spot of green paint on the side for righty tighty and a red spot for lefty loosey.

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by KennyG on 12/08/15 at 22:38:37

Sonny,

I manage to get the wrench on backwards 2 out of 3 times.

Putting a dab of paint on the ratchets is a great idea.

Kenny G

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by Art Webb on 12/09/15 at 07:38:39

I treat HF tools a lot like I treated Craftsman the last 5-10 years or so: good for general use, but when quality matters I still reach for Snap On (I have had, for example, Craftsman line wrenches round off brake line fitting due to lack of stiffness (the jaws spread under torque) on a dismally consistent basis, so only Snap On and Matco line wrenches live in my tool box)
ratcheting wrenches are great and wobble extensions and the sockets with built in u-joints are  truly a great thing to have, especially if you're twisting wrenches for a living

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by Kris01 on 12/09/15 at 15:30:35

Doesn't Craftsman still offer a lifetime warranty regardless of how it broke?

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by KennyG on 12/09/15 at 16:49:35

Yep

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by Dave on 12/10/15 at 02:59:54


605942581B1A2B0 wrote:
Doesn't Craftsman still offer a lifetime warranty regardless of how it broke?


I sometimes feel a bit guilty when I take a really worn out screwdriver in to be replaced.  Initially I treat the screwdriver like it should be treated, and use it for removing screws, and eventually as it wear it becomes my tool for prying things open.  The screwdrivers can last a long time if you are only working with new fasteners - but when you remove those old rusty screws and ones with rounded slots that have 5 layers of paint you have to chisel through....it is sometimes hard to keep the screwdriver firmly locked in the slot, and every time it slips out the blade is rounded off a bit.  Eventually the tip is too rounded to be of much use, and I take it back to Sears so they can replace it.  They always do......but somehow it just doesn't seem right to ask them to replace a tool that you have been using for 10-15 years.....and it probably cost $ 3 at the time and the replacement is now $ 9.

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by Art Webb on 12/11/15 at 08:39:16


6F564D571415240 wrote:
Doesn't Craftsman still offer a lifetime warranty regardless of how it broke?

Yes, they do
but their line wrenches don't break when I use them, the jaws just spread enough to round the fitting a better tool would have loosened
I've had the experience, more than once, of having a Craftsman line wrench round a fitting, and then getting the fitting to break free with an el cheapo open end wrench
most Craftsman stuff is good, especially the older stuff, but their line wrenches are complete and utter crap

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/11/15 at 08:57:20

A friend, not aware of his own strength, holding, one handed, in the middle of the wrench, put the open end on a nut and scooped a dent in the wrench work face.  I see your point, and that was no line wrench. I bought the wrenches in about 1980,

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by Dave on 12/11/15 at 09:06:32

I bought a large box end wrench form Harbor Freight to use on the trailer hitch ball.  I just don't have wrenches that are that big and it was cheap and does the job.

I thought it was kinda' funny that it says "PITTSBURGH" in really big letters....and  "Made In India" is also printed in much smaller letters.

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by Rodger on 12/11/15 at 21:09:36

My late Father swore by S-K tools, and I still have his full set of 3/4" drive sockets, ratchet, and T-bar. Who knows...maybe someday I'll have to work on a farm tractor?  lol

When I got out of the Regular Army, I started at a local auto repair shop with a limited set of tools. The boss had a huge toolbox, full of Snap-On, and I could borrow a tool here and there as long as it was wiped clean and put away at quitting time. Funds were tight, but as soon as I could, I bought my own kit. I have found the NAPA Evercraft combination wrenches to be adequate, whereas the few Craftsman wrenches I had just didn't hold up to constant, daily use. Also, I could buy a whole set of Evercraft wrenches for the cost of one Snap-On wrench. Did I drool over the boss's beautiful tools? Yes....but I did a lot of work with the cheapies.

I like Harbor Freight for "hobbyist quality" tools (my shorty metric combo set is Pittsburg brand) but the Pitt adjustable wrenches and pliers....? They're only slightly better than nothing, IMHO.

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/12/15 at 16:36:19

I prefer SK ratchets. The 1/4" drive is so smooth.

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by Art Webb on 12/12/15 at 19:16:25

I've never seen an SK tool that wasn't worthy of a serious wrencher's toolkit

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/12/15 at 20:12:49

Bought a set of 3/8ths at the parts house, sockets, ratchet, an extension, maybe two, about thirty bucks , in 74 ish,,, around Twenty bucks.. still have a few sockets, someone else has the rest.


I was asking the counter sales old man questions about the carb.
He said

You wanna know the best thing you could do for that car?

Uhhh, sure, what?


Drive a hole in the hood, drop a chain in, bring it around the bumper, lock it, give the wife the key..

I didn't listen. Eventually he saw I was determined. He got nicer.

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by runwyrlph on 12/13/15 at 18:26:56


45595855595A360 wrote:
I'm much more likely to lose a tool than to break it. Too bad they're not guaranteed against loss.

Those HF ratchet end wrenches are a real pleasure to use. They cut out a lot of annoyances turning fasteners.

I squeeze the ratchet and move the wrench to see which way the ratchet is pushing. But you could also put a spot of green paint on the side for righty tighty and a red spot for lefty loosey.


I have those wrenches on my Christmas list.  If the kids come through, I'll try that paint idea!

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by Sonny on 12/13/15 at 20:00:48


Quote:
I have those wrenches on my Christmas list.  If the kids come through, I'll try that paint idea!



May your days be merry and bright
And may all your engine bolts be tight!

;)

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by KennyG on 12/13/15 at 20:14:57

I was working on my S40 today and realized that the tools I use most often are probably nut drivers. As soon as I have something broke loose I use a nut driver to spin the nut off. On re-assembly I use the nut driver to spin the nut on, before I use the ratchet or torque wrench to finish tightening.

Kenny G

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/14/15 at 08:01:04

I do that more with small stuff, so, I have a 1/4" drive handle. I have adapters, I can use it on any socket.

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by Art Webb on 12/14/15 at 08:16:34


0C2229043526342F470 wrote:
I was working on my S40 today and realized that the tools I use most often are probably nut drivers. As soon as I have something broke loose I use a nut driver to spin the nut off. On re-assembly I use the nut driver to spin the nut on, before I use the ratchet or torque wrench to finish tightening.

Kenny G

Another one I use a lot is my palm ratchet
And my speed wrench (like an old hand drill)

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by KennyG on 12/14/15 at 20:19:07

Justin,

I have a 50 some year old Proto drive handle. It looks like a screwdriver with a square end on it and fits 1"4" drive sockets and I have a 1/4" to 3/8" adapter. I probably use it more than the nut drivers because I can slip the socket off of the ratchet and put it right on the drive handle.

I have been trying to find a 3/8" drive handle, but no luck so far. My luck has changed.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003UWHRSS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

Kenny G

 

Title: Re: Wobble extensions
Post by Sonny on 12/14/15 at 20:39:31

Funny, the habits we develop. I use a ratchet to break the bolt or nut loose, then remove the ratchet and spin the socket by hand to R&R the fastener, then the ratchet or a torque wrench to snug it down.

The fewer tools I use, the less time spent digging for a tool.


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