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Message started by raydawg on 12/05/15 at 09:46:02

Title: Car AC question....
Post by raydawg on 12/05/15 at 09:46:02

My little Ranger 4X4 has air conditioning that I have never used.
I noticed the other day it was making some noise, kicking in and out, and causing my engine to load up at idle, which made the motor rev higher to compensate for the low idle loading, I guess.
I guess the clutch, or ?? is bad on it, and I noticed once I got home it was smoking at the pulley when I popped the hood.
The pulley was moving freely, but something at the front of the unit was extremely hot.
I pulled the wire harness, let it cool, and now with no power to it, it works fine, or I mean, it ain't smoking hot no more  ;D

Since I don't need, or use it, am I OK to drive it this way?

I am thinking it must have some bearings in there, that are toast, when it engages, but is a non issue when in "free spool"
Does that sound about right?

Thanks in advance  :-*

Title: Re: Car AC question....
Post by Kris01 on 12/05/15 at 09:49:59

Would it be possible to lube the bearings if they're dry or is it a sealed system?

You could always use a shorter belt and not engage the AC pulley. Use a string wrapped around the rest of the pullies to measure what size you need.

Title: Re: Car AC question....
Post by Serowbot on 12/05/15 at 10:12:52

NO AIR-CONDITIONING ?????!!!!!   :o :o :o...

;D...


Title: Re: Car AC question....
Post by raydawg on 12/05/15 at 10:30:27


58617A602322130 wrote:
Would it be possible to lube the bearings if they're dry or is it a sealed system?

You could always use a shorter belt and not engage the AC pulley. Use a string wrapped around the rest of the pullies to measure what size you need.



Looks to be a sealed unit, and they make a dummy pulley for it. It sits/attaches to my power steering unit, tho both have separate pulleys. I see where they offer as, you suggest, a shorter belt to, at some of the auto parts store. You just tell them make/model, etc, and they do the math  ;D

I just hardly drive it, but when I do, it is not a good time, weather wise, to be stranded  :-?

Title: Re: Car AC question....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/05/15 at 10:52:15

Were you running the defroster? If the a.c. is not okay, then leave the clutch wires off and Test run it. The heat may have been due to quick, constant cycling, and, maybe did no harm to the bearings.
Defrost uses  a.c. ..Dave can tell us why.

Title: Re: Car AC question....
Post by raydawg on 12/05/15 at 11:29:02

Yes, I had the defroster on.

Title: Re: Car AC question....
Post by gizzo on 12/05/15 at 13:26:02

If it freewheels ok with the ac off ,should be ok to drive it. The clutch bearing is about the only thing you can replace without dismantling the compressor, fwiw. Smoke coming from the front of the  compressor sounds like maybe the compressor might be siezed. Nothing to be done but replace it. A quick visit to the ac shop will tell. You're really supposed to run the ac fir a few minutes every couple of weeks to avoid this kindof thing. The ac system has a dose of oil loaded into it and iit circulates around with the gas. It needs occasionally running to keep oil where it needs to be especially in the bits of the compressor.

Title: Re: Car AC question....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/05/15 at 13:36:33

And that is gospel. A parked vehicle is neglected. And an old, low mileage Savage is just documented neglect. Careful steps can bring it back, but the cylinder may be dry. Starting it before oiling it may be the beginning of the end.

Title: Re: Car AC question....
Post by raydawg on 12/05/15 at 13:40:48

Yes, that seems the case, re: lubrication.

I ran it around the hood for 15 minutes within walking distance to the house in this pouring rain, just in case.  :D

Ran GREAT, even seemed better than before, maybe it was loading the motor at higher drive speeds too?
I ran the defroster, fan, heat, etc, all is good to go.

Think I'll leave it be for now, as I am busy on the TT board trying to educate, the uneducated-able   ;D

Thanks all appreciate it mucho gracias  :-*

Title: Re: Car AC question....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/05/15 at 13:45:01

Did you plug the clutch back in?

Title: Re: Car AC question....
Post by raydawg on 12/05/15 at 17:13:33


495650574A4D7C4C7C44565A11230 wrote:
Did you plug the clutch back in?



Nope.......no AC or defrost using compressor, but it still defrost good enough without it.

Title: Re: Car AC question....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/05/15 at 17:24:37

If anyone else has reason to be under that hood, be careful that they don't
Help you, by hooking it up for you.

Title: Re: Car AC question....
Post by Kris01 on 12/06/15 at 00:02:42


37282E2934330232023A28246F5D0 wrote:
Defrost uses  a.c. ..Dave can tell us why.


My alias was never Dave!  ;D

The AC sends dry air to the defroster. Think of the dry air like a sponge. If the defroster used humid air it wouldn't be as efficient. Part of the air conditioner's responsibility is to pull humidity out of the air. The dry air blowing over your window soaks in the moisture that's accumulated and allows you to see.

Title: Re: Car AC question....
Post by Dave on 12/06/15 at 03:39:12

Yeah....what Kris01 said.

The outside air goes through the defroster and cools down, and most of the moisture condenses on the A/C coil....the air that then goes past the heater coil is much drier, and it therefore removes the fog/frost on the inside of the window much faster.

If you were blowing warm moist air on the cold windows the moisture doesn't remove the fog well....and sometimes it even makes them foggier!   Ever turn on the defroster and see the windows get even more foggy?

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