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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> Call it what it is...... /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1449255470 Message started by raydawg on 12/04/15 at 10:57:50 |
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Title: Call it what it is...... Post by raydawg on 12/04/15 at 10:57:50 C'mon folks, lets call this terrorist activity around the world for what it is.... It is nothing more than a new Crusade enacted for the very same reasons the original Crusade took place. The only thing that has changed is the date, and the name of a religion, these murderous zealots use to exucute their twisted idelogy. We can go down many a rabbit hole but we will end up at the same destination and truth. CNN can try and blame Christians aginst planned parenthood, and Obama can blame the gun, but that won't change the outcome or the truth about these folks who do these heinous acts. It is NOT the same as Nazi Germany, or any other tyranny, it is folk who are dis-connected from rational thought. And yes, it is revealing some weakeness in everyones armour. The sky is not falling down, but folks better grow up and become atuned to the truth of the situation, or Rome will indeed burn once more.... |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by Serowbot on 12/04/15 at 11:44:00 I agree 100%... The disagreement comes in including all of Islam as the enemy... I don't want a war with 800 million people.. I just want to destroy this idiot faction of perhaps 100,000 people or so... .0001%... of Muslims are the enemy... |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by raydawg on 12/04/15 at 12:43:45 3026312C34212C37430 wrote:
How many idiots include all of them bot? Honestly, show me an organization that is promoting this, not some fringe, I want someone that has the means to deliever on the threat you mention. I'll wait. |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by Serowbot on 12/04/15 at 12:47:13 huh?... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by raydawg on 12/04/15 at 14:02:30 Who includes all of them? |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by Serowbot on 12/04/15 at 15:20:14 You include them, when you refer to the terrorists as "Islamic Terrorists",.. or, call this a Crusade... Same as if I call that recent abortion clinic shooter a Christian Terrorist... Nobody liked it, when I said that... Now, put yourself in the shoes of a Muslim American,... or any Muslim trying to live a peaceful life... No need to offend innocent people,.. and no need to legitimize the ISIS/Daesh cause by associating them with all of Islam. They're just a band of thugs,.. with delusions of grandiose... Screw them... Call them Daesh... 8-)... Why Isis will hate it if we start calling them Daesh http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/why-isis-will-hate-it-if-we-start-calling-them-daesh--bkC822p_zl Quote:
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by raydawg on 12/04/15 at 16:33:25 5543544951444952260 wrote:
A very simple question..... I won't hold my breath. What religion was associated with the Crusades? |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by MnSpring on 12/04/15 at 16:37:16 7660776A72676A71050 wrote:
“ Islamic Terrorists” Yes, Agree, not ALL, People that believe in the, ‘Islamic’ Faith, or ALL, ‘Muslims’, are, “Terrorists”. Most certainly NOT. But why, be, ’sheep’, to the ones that are? Got a barrel of Apples, ‘ya roll out the barrel’. (Feel a song coming on here) Then you, ’sort’, the Apples. Bad ones, throw in the recycle bin. Good ones ya keep. Now, here is one, which, you believe, by all your experience in, ’sorting’ Apples, you, ‘believe’ is bad. What do you do with it? Throw it in the recycle bin. (Not Import) Or keep it, then later bite into it, and find out it is really, ‘rotten’. And, the, ’name’. Let’s say: “German Nazis” Well only about 5-10%, of, ‘Germans’, were ‘Nazis’. And their were, Polish, Italian, Australian, Danish, etc, ’Nazis’. And a very small % of those people, were, ’Nazis’. But when someone said: ’Nazis’. A person thought about the ideological, base, of that, party. AND, (most of the time it applied a certain, country). If someone wanted to describe, a ‘collaborator’, who was from/lived in, a certain Country. They would put the name of the Country, in front of, ’Nazis’. So, I believe it is the same with, ‘Muslim/Islamic’ Terrorist. We say : ‘Muslim Terrorist’, or ‘Islamic Terrorist”. So where, “Terrorist’, is used, everyone thinks, “Muslim/Islamic”. Their is Certainly, ’Spanish, Italian, French, Belgian, and American, ect., “Terrorists’" Now, let’s say, it’s 1942, and 100,000 Germans, wanted to, ‘flee’ into this Country. And some of them did everything they could to, ’sneak’, into this Country. And some of those, ‘German Refugees’, (In 1942), did Harm, to people in this Country, one way or another. (Which Some did, they were called, ’Spy’s’) Do you think, the Citizens of this, Country would say: ’No Germans” ? How about the, ’Irish’. When the Potato Famine hit. Lot’s came here, and History shows, their was a lot of animosity about the Irish. In Fact, when the ’Trans Continental Railroad’, tracks were laid, The East side, were Mostly Irish workers, and the West side were mostly Chinese. Both, cultures, formed, their own, ‘areas/enclaves’, with in a town. And most were associated, with a particular, job. And, (from History, wasn’t around then), the People of the USA, shunned, them. And it was, ‘proven’, over time, that they, Became, Up Standing, Contributing, US CITIZENS. Yet, YET, NOT ONE, of ANY of those, (and other) Groups of people, EVER SAID: “We Will Cut Off You Head, If You Do Not Believe The Way We Believe” NOT ONCE !!!!!!!!!! Not so, with, “Terrorists”, coming from the, ‘Muslim/Islamic’, areas of the world. The Pendulum of, the now, ‘Politically Correct’, has swing Far to FAR, to the LEFT. Forgot, how to, ’sort’, the Apples ? |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by MnSpring on 12/04/15 at 17:04:49 2731263B23363B20540 wrote:
Just after WWI, started, their was a small town, in Minn, that was named: “New Germany”. They, ‘re’ named that town, ‘Harmony”. After the war was over, they changed the name back to: ’New Germany’. The, American thought was, (at that time), Germans were bad. That, Town, of ‘Germans’, did something. They were, ‘in today's language’, were, ’Proactive’. They were, AMERICANS, which immigrated from Germany. They were getting, or Had gotten, their, Citizenship. They WERE, Americans ! They were NOT, German people, living in America. They Were, or were striving to BECOME, AMERICANS. They were Living a PEACEFUL Life, and were Part, of THIS, Country. Sure, they wore, ‘Lederhosen’, on special events. But NOT EVERY DAY. They Were, AMERICANS ! How many, ‘Lederhosen’, and how many full, ‘Berkas’, do see today, in the Airport, at Schools, at Work, on the Street, Standing in WELFARE lines ?????? And tell you what, Their is a He@@ of a LOT, More, 'German Decent People', Living in this Country, than their EVER WILL be, from the, 'Mesopotamia', area people. |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by raydawg on 12/04/15 at 17:24:47 MSpring...... I am not sure of the reference you make about what a person wears, and how that relates to anything. Could you please elaborate on what it is you are trying to say, thanks. |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by MnSpring on 12/05/15 at 09:47:23 21322A37322434530 wrote:
OK. Let’s say, I, am American, and go to Italy. I wear, a BB hat, Tennis shoes, Denim jeans, ’T’ Shirt. Rather easily to ‘profile’, as a American or Canadian. I don’t intend to stay, I don’t intend to Immigrate, I don’t intend to be part of the Italian citizenship, or become a Italian National. So I wear the BB cap, etc. If, I Intended to Stay, and BECOME, a Part of the Italian Culture. I would change my dress, to that of the current, Italian, style when I could. If I do NOT, No reason to change. Because I do NOT, truly Want, to be part of that Culture. That is just one small thing, of the many things, someone does, who Wants to BE PART of this Country. Then, their is just the plain old, ‘Courtesy’. In the US, rather common to use a empty beer bottle as a ash tray, and put your buts in in. In some, European countries, that is very frowned upon. So, what do you do. ’Not use it as a ash tray’? Or say: “This is what we do where I come from, so, you must also do it”. And many more examples. A Phrase was coined a Long time ago: “The Ugly American”. Describing a American, totally ignorant of local culture/customs, and judge everything by American standards. Last time you heard someone say that? Probably, not to long ago. When was the last time you heard someone say: ‘Ugly Muslim” ? |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by Serowbot on 12/05/15 at 09:52:44 When in Rome... :-?... It's just polite, to be polite... Muslim's aren't trying to be impolite,.. their garb is a part of their religious doctrine. |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by MnSpring on 12/05/15 at 10:22:23 4751465B43565B40340 wrote:
This, is NOT, Rome. Covering ones head, and face, Where a country is mostly, desert, with constantly blowing sand, Is a smart protection from the elements. It is certainly not required, in the vast majority of places in this country. And that, 'covering' was, written, (into a religion), to protect, and educate people. Just as another religion, stated, a person could not eat meat, unless it was, 'blessed', by a certain person. Again designed into a religion, to, protect. Because the , 'Blesser', knew, if that meat was good or bad. And Bot, you must certainty believe, that is wrong, and needs to be changed, even tho it was written thousands of years ago. Because you have stated, many times, a document written only 240 years ago, is totally outdated, and needs to be changed. :D |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by Serowbot on 12/05/15 at 10:30:20 1,000 posts... Congrats Mn... 8-)... Yup,.. I'm an atheist... religion is stupid... ...but,.. you can't fix stupid. So,.. I must tolerate it... :-X... Think about it... you want to fix theirs, they want to fix yours... I'd just can the whole concept... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by raydawg on 12/05/15 at 10:45:52 4650475A42575A41350 wrote:
Yep you're proof bot religion does not have to be organized to be stupid, you do your ideology rather well and don't have to wear a headdress or jewelry to let others know you are stupid, all I have to do is pray for you, simple enuff...... Unlike you, I don't have to try and remove the opposing views, and beliefs, from our freedom to live, and VOTE accordingly, and live in harmony, like you have stated in previous threads, mister tolerance ::) BTW, M.Spring, I find myself in opposition to your reasoning. The moment you cross that line of assigning and assuming, you enter a slippery slope. As evidenced by bots beliefs, you judge others, he can't escape his own judgement, even tho he denies it ,the battle will rage internally.... As it will be for ALL of us. :-X And one more thing....... Mister Tolerance just called.... drum roll please, MUSLIM and ISLAM stupid. Gee, imagine that, a peaceful and loving way of life that Obama finds beauty and joy when they are called to prayer. |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by Serowbot on 12/05/15 at 12:28:14 Took yer' bitter pills this mornin', din't ya', Dawg... ;D... |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by MnSpring on 12/05/15 at 12:35:07 6274637E66737E65110 wrote:
“ … posts… Congrats …” Didn’t even notice. Not important. “ …Yup,.. I’m an atheist… religion is stupid..." And that is your Opinion, don’t care. “ … you want to fix theirs, they want to fix yours… “ Nope, I, (and I don’t hear any others saying) “Catholics, you MUST, eat Meat on a Friday” “Latter Day Saints, You MUST Vote” “Jews, You MUST, eat non Kosher meat” “Islam’s, You MUST, drink alcohol” “Atheists, You MUST, believe in a religion” (Etc +) And if you Don’t, We will, l CUT OFF YOUR HEADS. When a, religion tells ME, I, MUST, do something they want, (like eat, or not eat something, take down a flag, etc, etc.) Because that, ’thing’, OFFENDS, them. Huston, we got a problem ! Covering a face, because a religion says so. Fine, Freedom of ‘Religion’. So, go to church, do social gatherings, do what ever, you, and your religion want to do. NONE, of that affects, ANYONE else, who is not a believer/follower, of that religion. But it Ends, when it is No Longer Religion ! And, effects, ME, and EVERYONE ELSE, on this Spaceship. I get my Drivers License, renewed. It involves a photo of me. I am TOLD, to remove my Hat, for the photo. Passport photo, SAME THING. Yet, a D.L. or I.D. photo, If I say, ‘RELIGION’, can be a photo, of a person, with a FULL Face Covering ? Someone is on a ’No Fly List’. It is a name, with a Photo, of someone with a FULL Face Covering. They go to the Airport, show a I.D., with a photo, of someone with a Full Face Covering. Or someone goes to get, FREE, Food, Health Care, etc. And they are wearing a, Full Face Covering. And to get that, they have to show a, I.D., with a photo of a person, with a FULL Face Covering. Or a underage person, wearing a Full Face Covering, goes into a bar, and show their I.D., with a photo of a person with a Full Face Covering. (Yea Yea, ’they’ don’t drink, Go tell that to a Catholic eating a hamburger on a Friday) (Or, they, VOTE, Buy a Gun, Rent a Car, and examples goes on and on.) Point is, the person handing you the I.D. , Which has a photo of, a person wearing a Full Face Covering, who is, wearing, a full face covering. You can tell, who that is, HOW ? (Some States, have, banned a full face covering on any I.D. Photos. But it is only a few) So, another explanation, on how, ‘clothing’, effects, whether a person, WANTS, to be part of this Country. Or they just want to, ‘hide’, in plain sight. And if it is, ‘hiding’, what a great way by, providing a photo I.D. with a full face covering, while wearing a full face covering. |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by Serowbot on 12/05/15 at 12:49:10 Seems like you were withholding the photo ID aspect of your argument for ammunition in your reply... Sorry to disappoint, but... I agree,.. they do need to show their face for ID purposes... That may be a problem for some, but it is necessary. So, they must compromise their values if they want to drive, fly, buy beer, etc... It seems to me,.. both you and Dawg, are more interested in catching me out, than in really discussing any topic... Fun enough... but, rather childish... You want to talk like adults?... let me know. |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by raydawg on 12/05/15 at 13:29:04 6A7C6B766E7B766D190 wrote:
No....its been raining out ;D |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by MnSpring on 12/05/15 at 13:30:10 63706875706676110 wrote:
Well I don’t believe I am, “assigning and assuming”. Take the Full Face Covering. Certainly NOT, everyone, who wears that, and has a photo ID with that, then presents themselves, while wearing that, as the person the ID names. Is, ‘hiding’. But a GREAT, way, to do so. “you enter a slippery slope” Well aware of the Cliff. Like in Firearms, I don’t own, any Fully-Automatic firearms. Just have NO interest in them. But their are people that do. (And they have to go through, VERY, extensive checks before they can own one. and they have to pay a Very high Tax rate, just to own one, and their are VERY, Specific regulations on how to own one. And, their is a 'Absolute', list of what can, and can not, be owned. And Even, with that very extreme through exam, taking in many cases up to a YEAR, their are, Still, some DFI's, that pay NO attention to the Laws.) {* What, a, Criminal Ignoring the Law? *} But just because I, don’t own one. I will NEVER say, you cannot! I do not own a Semi-Auto, AR-15, AK-47 or SKS or like, (Just have NO interest in them. I like single shots, bolt action, accurate is what I like) But, Again, just because I, don’t own one. I will NEVER say, you cannot! To say that, it would be the, “slippery slope’. And, for those that perhaps did not know. Full-Auto, firearms, were first regulated by the Feds, in 1934. Where all others firearms were first regulated in 1968. And, Despite, what many in the, ‘Media’ say. When a Crime has been committed. “They used Auto Firearms” 99.98% of the time, that is a TOTAL LIE, because the ‘reporter’, did Not know, and did, NOT, do their homework. |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by raydawg on 12/05/15 at 13:33:25 3620372A32272A31450 wrote:
Oh pleazze...... You ain't worth trapping, ain't got nuff fur, and you is too light weight to spring a trap besides...... Pot, kettle, meet bot. ::) |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by MnSpring on 12/05/15 at 13:49:23 7A6C7B667E6B667D090 wrote:
Well Bot. Just don’t know what to say on that. I was giving my Opinion, not trying to, ‘catching me out’. And thinking about it, ‘catching me out”, on what? Your views, are rather well known, (on this forum), as well as mine, and others. Yep, it is definitely time to go out and cut more wood for next year. |
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Title: Re: Call it what it is...... Post by raydawg on 12/05/15 at 14:48:04 74576A494B50575E390 wrote:
Well Bot. Just don’t know what to say on that. I was giving my Opinion, not trying to, ‘catching me out’. And thinking about it, ‘catching me out”, on what? Your views, are rather well known, (on this forum), as well as mine, and others. Yep, it is definitely time to go out and cut more wood for next year. [/quote] We need a fairness doctrine I guess :P |
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