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Message started by Struch on 11/10/15 at 06:58:46

Title: Air box
Post by Struch on 11/10/15 at 06:58:46

Hi I'm new Savage owner and it is my first bike
It is  2001 Savage with 9000 miles on it I have several problems on it
with I'm working on. One of them is gas overflowing carburetor and going to Air box. It have strange smell wile riding. Looks like that some one before install manual petcock. What do I need to check, clean or adjust?
Thanks

Title: Re: Air box
Post by Dave on 11/10/15 at 07:05:08

Does the petcock have a "RES" "ON" "OFF" dial....or does is have one that has a 'PRI" position"  (Just trying to confirm you really have a manual petcock on the bike).  Does the fuel overflow when you turn the petcock to "OFF".....or while you are riding....or always?

With the age of the bike, I believe it is most likely in need of a good fuel system cleaning if it has never had one.  Remove the tank and inspect it for any dirt/rust inside, clean the petcock and screens, and a thorough carb cleaning and replacement of any worn or aged parts (especially rubber O-rings and perhaps your float needle).


Title: Re: Air box
Post by verslagen1 on 11/10/15 at 07:05:58

You should be turning the petcock off when not riding.
carb overflow is generally caused by a bad float valve, or it needs cleaning.

Title: Re: Air box
Post by Struch on 11/11/15 at 02:14:36

Cool
Yes petcock dose have Off On Res positions I put it only in On position wile riding. It is overflow wile riding and it have smell to it  Question because it all connected on exhaust part previos owner cut out muff with the torch to make it "louder" :'(
I will inspect the tank for rust and particles
Do you think Sea Foaming gona help
Thanks

Title: Re: Air box
Post by Dave on 11/11/15 at 03:47:19

Sea Foam tends to work on varnish deposits left from stale fuel....it does nothing to dissolve rust, corrosion or dirt - or cure faulty needle/seat issues.

You really should take the carb apart and see that is going on inside the float bowl.

Title: Re: Air box
Post by Struch on 11/13/15 at 04:56:50

Hi
So I I think I solve it. Air box was getting flooded because petcock staid on for several minute because it had problems on startup. I change the buttery and since that it starts rite up don't have that problem ))
also change cut out OEM muff to used sportster and its way beater I going to re jet carbs for new muff and see after  

Title: Re: Air box
Post by Dave on 11/13/15 at 05:20:32

If your carb floods in a few minutes with the petcock on, you have a problem with your needle/seat/float.  If they are working properly you should be able to leave your petcock on all day while you are riding and stopping to rest, eat, sight see, etc.  The petcock should be turned off when you are done riding for the day - but if your carb is working correctly you should be able to leave the petcock turned on all day.

Title: Re: Air box
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/13/15 at 05:30:15

What he said.
And, we've seen several get gas in the crankcase, so, if you have more oil than before, change it. Might pull the fill, take a whiff..
I don't think I'd stick the cigarette lighter to it.

Title: Re: Air box
Post by Art Webb on 11/13/15 at 09:22:45

My petcock hasn't been turned off for at least a year
not that smart, considering the potential problems if my needle / seat fails, but the point is, no flooded airbox
no fuel in oil
no leakage
that's how trustworthy a functional needle / seat should be

Title: Re: Air box
Post by Dave on 11/13/15 at 09:29:35


796A6C6F7D7A7A180 wrote:
My petcock hasn't been turned off for at least a year
not that smart, considering the potential problems if my needle / seat fails, but the point is, no flooded airbox
no fuel in oil
no leakage
that's how trustworthy a functional needle / seat should be


When you consider that your push lawnmower has the same fuel system (fuel tank, gravity fuel flow, carb with needle/seat).....and it doesn't even have a petcock that allows you to shut the fuel off.  The needle and seat do seal very well when they are working properly.....if it overflows it really is time to work on it and see why it doesn't work properly.

Title: Re: Air box
Post by Struch on 11/14/15 at 08:53:15

Ok
Thanks I gona do it. but should I get rebuild kit and rebuild it anyway?
Wen I gona open it wot should I look for?  Can I clean it with K&W Carburetor and Choke cleaner? With rebuild kit to get for 2001 Savage?
should I use that as a guide line http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1191899985

Questions, Questions, Questions )
O bu the way thanks for your help and suggestions so far  :D

Title: Re: Air box
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/14/15 at 22:29:45

I would swing to reserve every once in a while, just to prove it would turn and to prove its screen was clear.

Title: Re: Air box
Post by Struch on 12/09/15 at 17:36:16

take it a part clean it re please the needle and it is all good works like a clock ;D thanks to everyone    

Title: Re: Air box
Post by Rodger on 12/12/15 at 09:14:59

On my older bikes (Honda CB350 and my air-cooled BMWs), the gas petcocks were "manual only." In other words, they had off/on/reserve positions, whereas newer bikes have on/reserve/prime positions and the fuel flow is controlled via engine vaccuum.

While it is true that the float needle-and-seat SHOULD keep gas from running when parked, sometimes a wee little bit of "crud" can get stuck between the end of the float needle and its seat. As a precaution, I made turning the petcock to off as part of my shutdown procedures, "just in case."

Just "food for thought.".  :)

Title: Re: Air box
Post by Struch on 12/13/15 at 13:48:09

Yes I definitely do do it now. But looks like previous owner didn't (((( RRRRR

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