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Message started by Serowbot on 11/05/15 at 21:39:14

Title: Remember, remember,...
Post by Serowbot on 11/05/15 at 21:39:14

...the 5th of November...

There's a lot of ironies in that phrase today...

Historically,.. it was a victory over a terrorist...
The film, V for Vendetta,... turned the terrorist into the hero, and the government into the terrorist...
Ant-government is popular nowadays... but, I wonder do they realize, the government the film is about, is conservative?...
Originally modeled on Thacher's administration,.. but updated to model GW Bush's...
Brainwashed into fighting for the rich and powerful that control them,.. and against their own right to health, wealth, and a secure retirement... ideas brought to the fore by the same folks that delivered to us the "Patriot Act" and DHS... Preemptive war, and incarceration without charge, trial, or defense...
Fear the imaginary enemies, whilst the real one's rob you blind... of your money, security, health, safety, peace of mind...
Orwell would be astounded...

Penny for the Guy?... :-?...

Happy 5th, .. Hovis...

Remember, remember!
   The fifth of November,
   The Gunpowder treason and plot;
   I know of no reason
   Why the Gunpowder treason
   Should ever be forgot!
   Guy Fawkes and his companions
   Did the scheme contrive,
   To blow the King and Parliament
   All up alive.
   Threescore barrels, laid below,
   To prove old England's overthrow.
   But, by God's providence, him they catch,
   With a dark lantern, lighting a match!
   A stick and a stake
   For King James's sake!
   If you won't give me one,
   I'll take two,
   The better for me,
   And the worse for you.
   A rope, a rope, to hang the Pope,
   A penn'orth of cheese to choke him,
   A pint of beer to wash it down,
   And a jolly good fire to burn him.
   Holloa, boys! holloa, boys! make the bells ring!
   Holloa, boys! holloa boys! God save the King!
   Hip, hip, hooor-r-r-ray!

Title: Re: Remember, remember,...
Post by HovisPresley on 11/05/15 at 22:52:04

"Historically,.. it was a victory over a terrorist"

It was another Catholic v Protestant (ahem) disagreement over who should rule the country.

(What was that? Two opposing sects of the same peaceful religion killing each other in the name of (the same) God?)

Here's to Guy, the only person to enter the Houses of Parliament with honest intentions  8-) ;D

PS. I'm far too handsome to wear an Anonymous mask....  :D

Title: Re: Remember, remember,...
Post by Paraquat on 11/06/15 at 06:01:48


14332A352F0C2E392F3039255C0 wrote:
Here's to Guy, the only person to enter the Houses of Parliament with honest intentions  8-) ;D


I chuckled.


--Steve

Title: Re: Remember, remember,...
Post by Serowbot on 11/06/15 at 07:01:24


54736A756F4C6E796F7079651C0 wrote:
PS. I'm far too handsome to wear an Anonymous mask....  :D

Me too...
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/rerun/oh-1.jpg

Title: Re: Remember, remember,...
Post by WebsterMark on 11/06/15 at 09:09:48

Shocking that a movie was made praising the ideology of liberalism and presenting conservatives in a negative light.

Gee.....that's never been tried before....

Title: Re: Remember, remember,...
Post by WebsterMark on 11/06/15 at 10:27:49

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3305777/Bottles-hurled-police-men-knives-paint-grenades-lock-picks-arrested-Trafalgar-Square-hundreds-anti-inequality-protestors-march-London.html

here's your heros in real life.

I especially love anti capitalist, anarchist protestors caught on film wearing expensive popular fashion clothes, shoes, bags etc...

i only wish the British cops would have turned the streets red. give them something real to cry about.

Title: Re: Remember, remember,...
Post by Paraquat on 11/06/15 at 11:09:48

I love it.


--Steve

Title: Re: Remember, remember,...
Post by Serowbot on 11/06/15 at 11:17:09

ugly jacket... :P...

Title: Re: Remember, remember,...
Post by WebsterMark on 11/06/15 at 11:37:35

Might be ugly to us old guys, but must be the latest fashion to those hip anarchist...

Title: Re: Remember, remember,...
Post by Paraquat on 11/07/15 at 04:53:38

I love it because I love the chaos. I love that people are standing up.

Anarchy isn't saying there's anything wrong with capitalism, just that they want less government.


--Steve

Title: Re: Remember, remember,...
Post by WebsterMark on 11/07/15 at 06:10:10


58697A69797D697C080 wrote:
I love it because I love the chaos. I love that people are standing up.

Anarchy isn't saying there's anything wrong with capitalism, just that they want less government.


--Steve


Those people aren't standing up to anything, they're just aholes.
thats like saying punks that flip over and burn cars are celebrating their teams victory.

Title: Re: Remember, remember,...
Post by MnSpring on 11/07/15 at 17:21:15

I think this photo, says it all:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/05/22/2E27229C00000578-3305777-image-a-12_1446763051272.jpg

Let’s see, A , ’Socialist Worker”, (Proudly proclaimed by the sign)
A, “Burning Police Car”,  (Which will be replaced),
Which will, Cost, all, the,  ’Socialist’, ‘Workers’,   Money. (In Taxes).

Standing by it, giving the,  “Peace Sign”,
With a slogan on it: “One solution, revolution”.

Are they, ‘revolting’, against, ‘Capitalism?
Thus, Destroying a car, punishing horses, and trying to, LOOT, a store, (as the Video shows)
Really Stupid.

Are they, ‘revolting’, against Socialism?
(*What T. F. ? @*)
Really, Really, stupid.

Are they, ‘revolting’, against government oppression?
Burn Police cars, Riot, Loot, Launch missiles at Police, purposefully Spook, Horses.
(YEP,  that will,  REALLY, get you where your going).
Really,  REAlly,  REALLY,   Stupid  !!!!!!!

THEN; Wear a ‘mask’,  so No One knows who you are. !!!!!!!!!!!
So,  NO  Responsibility,  for your actions ????:
That, is just plain,  NO BALLS,  

But hey, it's the UK   !

Title: Re: Remember, remember,...
Post by HovisPresley on 11/07/15 at 18:37:19

Quote MnS:
"THEN; Wear a ‘mask’,  so No One knows who you are. !!!!!!!!!!!
So,  NO  Responsibility,  for your actions ????:
That, is just plain,  NO BALLS,  

But hey, it's the UK   !"
...............................................................................

I think you'll find that particular photo was in the UK , but these 'mask wearing' protesters are globally active, the USA having more protest marches organised by Anonymous than elsewhere.... just plain NO BALLS?  ;)

But hey, it's the Globe  !

The 'Socialist Worker' is actually a publication, a publication that prints posters.

An 'anarchist' (as opposed to a Socialist) doesn't pay taxes.

The 'peace sign' is as much a 'vendetta' sign these days.... quite the opposite.

The car was destroyed in the picture, but it was parked by its owner in a riot zone  ;D  and it was the police who decided to bring their animals along to the party....

Title: Re: Remember, remember,...
Post by HovisPresley on 11/07/15 at 19:13:25

http://i65.tinypic.com/33dihhl.jpg

"The Police vehicle is parked on the pavement outside No.27 Queen Anne's Gate SW1 and opposite the Ministry of Justice goods entrance. It is 290 yards from the main entrance of New Scotland Yard, Metropolitan Police HQ and it's underground parking facility entrance in Dacre Street, less than a three minute walk away.
There would be armed Police officers guarding the Justice building with real time CCTV surveillance all around.
Coincidence that cameramen from Associated Newspapers were on hand to record events so far from the main demonstration.
The Police were very quick on the scene to put out the fire and although the newspaper reports say it was a burnt out wreck, after a new windscreen and a polish I think it will be back on the streets within the week.
The Daily Mail, amongst others, claims it was near Green Park, which is in fact north of The Mall about half a mile away, whereas this is south of the Mall. The location is probably clearly visible from the Commissioner's penthouse office on the 20th top floor of New Scotland Yard and at least half a dozen floors below."

Title: Re: Remember, remember,...
Post by verslagen1 on 11/07/15 at 21:41:54

palm forward peace sign in the UK is FU.

Title: Re: Remember, remember,...
Post by HovisPresley on 11/07/15 at 22:18:44


2B382F2E313C3A38336C5D0 wrote:
palm forward peace sign in the UK is FU.

....................................................................

No, in the UK the FU gesture has the palm facing inward towards the person gesturing.

Churchill on occasion would reverse his famous 'V' sign, as he felt appropriate  ;D

Title: Re: Remember, remember,...
Post by MnSpring on 11/08/15 at 16:28:02

" ... but it was parked by its owner in a riot zone  ..."

I didn't know the UK, Zoned off areas, or gave permits to, hold, RIOTS in?  
I thought a, peaceful, protest, was permitted.
Having/getting, a, RIOT, permit,  must be a UK thing.

" Your Honor,
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury.
My Client is  Innocent.
.
Clearly, the,  ’Supposed, victim, was, “Asking for it”.
.
This is Proven by the, "Provocative Dress”,
And, being on the wrong street, at the wrong time."



Title: Re: Remember, remember,...
Post by HovisPresley on 11/08/15 at 17:06:29

" ... but it was parked by its owner in a riot zone  ..."
I was wrong when I said that. It was parked neatly on the pavement so as not to narrow the street whilst the Press photographs were alerted.
See Reply 13.

A 'zone' means an 'area', like 'war-zone' for instance.
Do you need a permit to have a war in a particular zone?  ::)  Must be a USA thing  :(

The car was a set up by the police for the media (as previously said).

I was suspicious that this 'protester' was quite formally dressed, was alone in the photo, body language seemed wrong, didn't seem to have much adrenaline, etc. Just looked like a posed photo....

Then I checked the address of the street in Google/G Earth, then 'Google imaged' the original photo, and lo! and behold!

Reply number 13 says enough, I needn't repeat it.

But as MnS says; "I think this photo says it all!!"

No sir, wrong again  ::)

Title: Re: Remember, remember,...
Post by pg on 11/08/15 at 18:37:43

Churchill on occasion would reverse his famous 'V' sign, as he felt appropriate  ;D


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ibX0bFMNis0/VFFbnpB9OkI/AAAAAAAAKN4/BXhsAhM3m8E/s1600/a.jpg

 :-/

Best regards,

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