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Message started by rong on 10/26/15 at 10:47:30

Title: How to soften a hard seat
Post by rong on 10/26/15 at 10:47:30

On long trips, the S40 seat can get a little hard.

I've heard that some have purchased soft seats, gel seats, air seats, etc. that can alleviate this problem.
Open to your thoughts as to what you use.  (Indicating the brand and model will be most helpful).

Right now, I'm leaning towards the Air Hawk brand.  (For any of you that have used this brand, what model do you use ... as I see multiple models and don't know which model fits the bike the best).

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Ron G

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/26/15 at 13:17:44

It's not quick, but it's cheap and makes the wife happy. Make a paddle and let her give you a few swats every day. You'll toughen up, and the bike will feel great.

Source is up to you..

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by youzguyz on 10/26/15 at 13:31:09


7865646D666B7F670A0 wrote:
On long trips, the S40 seat can get a little hard.

Right now, I'm leaning towards the Air Hawk brand.  (For any of you that have used this brand, what model do you use ... as I see multiple models and don't know which model fits the bike the best).

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Ron G


Airhawk Medium Cruiser 14x14

http://www.amazon.com/Airhawk-Medium-Cruiser-Pad-AH2MED/dp/B0045WBVUM


Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by gizzo on 10/26/15 at 20:49:43

I just throw a sheepskin on the seat and sit on that.

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by HovisPresley on 10/27/15 at 08:11:04


5A454344595E6F5F6F57454902300 wrote:
It's not quick, but it's cheap and makes the wife happy. Make a paddle and let her give you a few swats every day. You'll toughen up, and the bike will feel great.

Source is up to you..


;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by Serowbot on 10/27/15 at 08:41:34


57484E4954536252625A48440F3D0 wrote:
It's not quick, but it's cheap and makes the wife happy. Make a paddle and let her give you a few swats every day. You'll toughen up, and the bike will feel great.

Source is up to you..

Either that, or you'll learn to post... ;D...

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by Dave on 10/27/15 at 08:54:09

It is possible to do an internal change if you are handy.

Take the stock seat cover off, use an electric carving knife to cut away some of the existing foam, and replace it with a softer foam, some memory foam....of some kind of a gel pad.

Stewmills had "Spencer" do his seat and he was satisfied....we need to contact him for an update after he used it for a while.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1435002707/60#68

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by rong on 10/28/15 at 14:58:19

Even though the Airhawk is seriously in my sight, I just may try all of your suggestions ... maybe even all at once ... nothing like a super, super soft seat!     ;)

Appreciate the suggestions and ideas.
Ron G

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by pg on 10/28/15 at 16:41:17


Quote:
It is possible to do an internal change if you are handy.


I am thinking of giving this a try.  Maybe pulling off the original vinyl and inserting some kind of padding on top.  Kind of leveling it off and then putting some marine grade vinyl back over it.  I've watched a couple videos on you tube and it doesn't look terribly difficult.  Although, I'm not sure what kind of padding to use.  Does any one have any thoughts?  Thanks.

Best regards,  

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by stewmills on 10/28/15 at 21:20:05


5F64697E6F63787E656D607F0C0 wrote:
Stewmills had "Spencer" do his seat and he was satisfied....we need to contact him for an update after he used it for a while.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1435002707/60#68


hey gang. yes, i had the spencer mod done with the upgraded supracor stuff. i have put about 400 miles on it since then and i think it is worth it. he says it takes time in the saddle for the material to soften up and sorta mold to your pressure points. i could tell it did do that after a tank or two of riding.  no, i cant ride for 200 miles and not feel "something", but with these skinny seats i dont think you can expect that either.

so, did i get my $100 worth, i sure think so. i would have screwed the seat up no doubt. spencer is a straight up guy to do business with. communicates great. does an excellent job and i swear i can not tell that he ever had the seat apart but i know he did because it has all new staples. when he says you will get it back looking exactly like it did when you took it off he's not just talking trash to get your money. he knows what he's doing.

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by KennyG on 10/28/15 at 23:06:36

I recently had an additional 2 inches of foam added to the drivers half of the seat on my S40, and a new rolled and pleated cover made by a local upholstery shop.

I am very pleased with the results and the bike now fits me better and the seat is a much "softer" ride.

Kenny G

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by pg on 10/29/15 at 05:10:21

Kenny G, that looks absolutely wonderful.  Thanks for posting a nice pic.   [smiley=thumbup.gif]

Best regards,

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by Drestakil on 10/29/15 at 07:25:00

This is the site I used and am very happy with the results. You'll need a pneumatic stapler and some stainless steel staples. http://diymotorcycleseat.com/ I built mine up with about 1 1/2 inches of rigid foam contoured with a grinder and a heat gun.

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by rong on 10/29/15 at 12:23:01

Does 'Spencer' have a website?  I may have missed it, but from our conversations here, I couldn't find any link to the 'Spencer' mod.

Ron G

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by stewmills on 10/29/15 at 12:44:42


524F4E474C41554D200 wrote:
Does 'Spencer' have a website?  I may have missed it, but from our conversations here, I couldn't find any link to the 'Spencer' mod.

Ron G



http://greatdaytoride.com/Home_Page.php

The site looks sorta old school, but it's legit. Email him with questions, etc. and he'll let you know what you need to know.

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by chzeckmate on 10/29/15 at 13:02:28


0E202B063724362D450 wrote:
I recently had an additional 2 inches of foam added to the drivers half of the seat on my S40, and a new rolled and pleated cover made by a local upholstery shop.

I am very pleased with the results and the bike now fits me better and the seat is a much "softer" ride.

Kenny G


That's some nice work.  I'm thinking of taking my seat to one of the upholstery shops here.  Can you link your photo album so I can see some different views and maybe a close up for some inspiration?

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by KennyG on 10/29/15 at 13:48:24

Chzeck,

Here is the only other pic that I have at the moment.

The upholsterer sculpted two layers of dense foam on the driver's portion of the seat. Each additional layer is about an inch thick, and glued over the factory foam.

If I were to do it over again I would have the rolled and pleated top come down over the sides an inch or so, so the saddle didn't look so tall.

I paid $168.00 including the Peoples Republic of Texas Sales Tax.

The seat is now so much more comfortable and it gives me some additional leg room. Cutting the risers down to two inches also helped fit the bike to me.

Kenny G

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by pg on 10/29/15 at 17:53:32


7B4D5A4C4B5E5456530E3F0 wrote:
This is the site I used and am very happy with the results. You'll need a pneumatic stapler and some stainless steel staples. http://diymotorcycleseat.com/ I built mine up with about 1 1/2 inches of rigid foam contoured with a grinder and a heat gun.


Thanks, this is going to be my winter project.

Best regards,

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by chzeckmate on 10/29/15 at 19:31:55


755B507D4C5F4D563E0 wrote:
Chzeck,

Here is the only other pic that I have at the moment.

The upholsterer sculpted two layers of dense foam on the driver's portion of the seat. Each additional layer is about an inch thick, and glued over the factory foam.

If I were to do it over again I would have the rolled and pleated top come down over the sides an inch or so, so the saddle didn't look so tall.

I paid $168.00 including the Peoples Republic of Texas Sales Tax.

The seat is now so much more comfortable and it gives me some additional leg room. Cutting the risers down to two inches also helped fit the bike to me.

Kenny G


I think it looks really good like it is.  The top is tits.

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by KennyG on 10/29/15 at 19:56:42

Chzek,

Thank you.

Next on the list is the sissy bar that I am having made by The Chop Shop in Keller Texas. I notice on the European websites many of the Savages have a sissy bar that looks more like a grab rail than a sissy bar. Picture attached. My grab rail will not be black, it will be either silver or chrome plated.

The final project is to get the front brake caliper powder coated bright red like the cool cars have.

Kenny G

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by Dave on 10/30/15 at 03:37:58

Looks like that bike on the right in the photo is likely having the clutch cover removed - look how he rotated the header/muffler up out of the way without removing it from the cylinder.

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by KennyG on 10/30/15 at 06:36:56

Dave,

I suspect that there are quite a few real German mechanics on the Distel website. If you look around at their get togethers you always see pics of Savages in various stages of tear down.

Kenny G

Title: Re: How to soften a hard seat
Post by Dave on 10/30/15 at 06:51:37

Seems like they like flat and wide handlebars too!

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