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Message started by parkingcoordinator on 10/14/15 at 09:49:27

Title: Clutch cable on mini-ape hangers...
Post by parkingcoordinator on 10/14/15 at 09:49:27

This year I put 10" mini apes on my 96' Savage and was able to use all the existing cables. The clutch cable is down to two threads and I believe that it's a combination of just being old and also possibly the stretch I've put on it.

I'm inclined to order another regular Savage clutch cable knowing that having a new one will be good but has anybody else put an extended cable on with the 10" apes?

You guys are the best, thanks.

Title: Re: Clutch cable on mini-ape hangers...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/14/15 at 12:26:54

If you're down to just two threads on the clutch lever, have you looked down on the mount on the side of the motor to see if you can move the cable housing?

Title: Re: Clutch cable on mini-ape hangers...
Post by parkingcoordinator on 10/14/15 at 18:22:14

I'm not quite sure that I understand what you're getting at but I'm not having any troubles moving the clutch and the cable is crimped all the way at the end on both ends. No slack for me to absorb up on the cable.

Working with another fella at work I was actually able to run a new piece of steel wire through and crimp on some crimps that get the job done for now. I did order a new OEM cable for all of $25 shipped so I'll replace the temp with that when I receive it.

Title: Re: Clutch cable on mini-ape hangers...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/14/15 at 19:54:00

Sounds like a real good idea.
Impressive short term solution.
Be a good time to shift the slick, clutchless way, if you can

Title: Re: Clutch cable on mini-ape hangers...
Post by parkingcoordinator on 10/15/15 at 00:00:04

Yeah, a couple of the guys were trying to talk me into a taking a ride without the cable installed and just shifting without. As much fun as that sounds, I'm not trying to put myself in that position... on purpose at least.

Title: Re: Clutch cable on mini-ape hangers...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/15/15 at 17:31:45

From a stop? Just begging to tear something up.. And first to second is hard to get right, up or down.
I could only go clutchless second through fifth and back, well, neutral, but that's not something I needed often.

Title: Re: Clutch cable on mini-ape hangers...
Post by old_rider on 10/15/15 at 20:02:34

I'm not a clutchless shifter fan.... I think they have a clutch on the bike for a reason.
I don't race... I time my shifts with revs...but still pull it in.... save wear and tear..... engine lives longer.... less money spent, or so is my opinion :) and you know we all have them :D
As far as using the OEM on a set of ten inchers.... I put a pair of 2+" spacers on my elk horns.... still had cable to spare, even without shifting the cable below the triple tree.....

Title: Re: Clutch cable on mini-ape hangers...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/15/15 at 21:03:51

I understand.. I've been driving standards, synching them up and shifting clutchless going up, double clutching down, and the Savage will, done right, fly through the gears, clutch plates never slipping, clutch throw out not used, except for first and second.. just couldn't synch those up with the precision that made me comfortable.
And I was pinning its ears back . I used the clutch when I was just cruising easy..

Title: Re: Clutch cable on mini-ape hangers...
Post by Dave on 10/16/15 at 04:10:55

Although I have had motorcycles that shifted OK without the clutch.....they were small displacement dirt bikes. My Savage doesn't like clutchless shifting, and I don't recommend anyone do it (except in an emergency when you have broken a cable and need to get home). One day when I was riding the brass end on my clutch cable broke the solder joint and the inner cable was slipping out of the brass ferrule - so I had to ride home without the clutch, and the shifts were not smooth no matter how hard I tried....and the drive train "clunked" every time. (I have found a much better flux to use when soldering steel to brass and fixed the problem).

I believe the heavy flywheel and heavy crankshaft just makes too much engine inertia, and the engine just doesn't like to change rpm as quickly as is required when you shift without a clutch. You are asking the engine to instantly change a couple of hundred rpm, and the rotating parts in the Savage are big and heavy and not willing to change rpm instantly.