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Title: How to pick up a full dresser Post by pg on 09/29/15 at 18:14:24 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeLkrPkjimo[/media] That doesn't look so tough.... :-? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by Serowbot on 09/30/15 at 06:57:35 2630273A22373A21550 wrote:
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by engineer on 09/30/15 at 07:25:06 Too bad that girl wasn't around last week when I low sided my S40 turning onto a gravel road. The front tire slid out and gravity took over. It tore a hole in my jeans and messed up my knee a little but the rest of me was covered in protective gear. The "armored" elbow inserts did thier job and the kevlar blended mesh gloves also did what they are supposed to do. I was wearing a helmet but didn't hit my head. Anyway it wasn't so easy to pick up the bike and a passing motorist stopped to check on me and then assisted in lifting the bike. I was glad they stopped. |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/30/15 at 07:55:48 Plug in not supported on either... |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by Serowbot on 09/30/15 at 08:17:19 JOG, you need a jock strap for yer' plug-in... :-?... https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BeLkrPkjimo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84YfDGKA4Og&feature=player_embedded |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/30/15 at 11:31:05 I appreciate the suggestion. Went to the app store. Looked, did not see anything, hit Search, No joy. I'm gonna be needing the link for that, too, I guess.. Dangitt, |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/30/15 at 11:42:05 Howcum if fluids are leaking you're supposed to surrender? And she picked up a bike that WAS down. Flat, nothing, no crash bars, no bags.. Good stuff to think about. And Remember, especially In the moment. When adrenaline and embarrassment are maxed out.. Slowdown,, hit the kill,then think. Once you hurt that lower back, it's never quite the same. And stooping down to grab a bike is just not a safe lift. |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by old_rider on 09/30/15 at 14:43:13 ^^^ What JoG said^^^ Take it from me... two years ago, compression fracture L4... I am headed to the doc again next week to get another bone density check to see if i can get a fusion done. If the gas is dripping on the head.... just stand back and let it.... if it catches fire... get a taxi to the bus station. Don't he man it up! Especially if it has 140lbs extra gear on it! |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by springman on 09/30/15 at 14:47:19 Hey Engineer, glad you came out ok from that low side. Nothing like protective gear. Be safe and thump on. :) |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by Kris01 on 09/30/15 at 16:06:37 There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity. If my bike was down and dripping gas, I'd still pick it up. I'd rather it burn with me trying "something" than let it lay there with me just watching. Which side of the line does that put me? |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by Serowbot on 09/30/15 at 16:15:04 013823397A7B4A0 wrote:
Savage fan... :)... ...(if it ain't engulfed in flames,.. I'm picking it up)... ;D... |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by Kris01 on 09/30/15 at 16:20:01 'zactly! |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by pg on 09/30/15 at 17:04:34 Fresh gas on a red hot engine may not necessarily catch fire. I came off the interstate to fill-up and the pump didn't shut off when it normally would. Gas poured over the tank on to the HOT engine. The wind shield cleaner was right their and it was full of water so I started scrubbing it down with a whole lot of water. Not sure what would have happened if I didn't have access to water.... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by Steve H on 09/30/15 at 17:54:07 Gas doesn't burn. Gas vapor does. The engine should be nowhere near hot enough to set off flames. Usually the fuel will just boil off. But, it is a very scary feeling. If there's liquid fuel on the hot engine, don't try to start it. You might just supply the needed catalyst to get the flames. |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by Steve H on 09/30/15 at 18:13:46 JOG needs the mobile site where they still use real, standard codecs instead of this webm junk they have foist upon the rest of us. JOG, you might get it to work if you edit the URL to say m.youtube.com/whatever You might try moboplayer with its codec pack. It plays most videos from standard pc format video sources. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeLkrPkjimo this is the first one without the embedded player. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BeLkrPkjimo this is m.youtube.com It works fine on my phone as it is so, I don't know how much or if any help this will be. It does start the youtube app to play it though. |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/30/15 at 18:27:30 Steve ,I appreciate the time you spent typing that, putting in links, all of it, BUT, I don't understand anything about what you said.. Can you go a little bit more Readers Digest on it? |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by old_rider on 09/30/15 at 18:35:24 764F544E0D0C3D0 wrote:
LOL, on my side :) but like jog said, don't JUMP into it... I did, panic of the gas dripping on the hot engine, i grabbed and jerked..... busted a vertebrae in my back. If I had it to do again, I would probably had tried to lift it...correctly, and if I could not get it upright.... I would have let it burn... its only property. |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/30/15 at 19:03:51 If it's running, it might light. Takes about 500 degrees of non flame temperature. To light it. If it's dropped, shut off, and drips fuel. I'd expect the first drop to ignite, or, it won't. See fire, look for loose dirt, your coat, shirt, If you aren't winning, get away. |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by Kris01 on 09/30/15 at 20:06:09 3B3830263D303126540 wrote:
Agreed. Safety first. Buying a new bike is waaay cheaper than buying a new back! ;) |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by Serowbot on 09/30/15 at 22:06:35 One, of the many, reasons I like my Savage,.. is I can lift it without thinking... ...because,.. I do tend to be accident prone... and in the adrenalin moment... I will, lift the bike bike back up... I won't consider anything... I will just try to undo what just happened... and that includes up-righting the bike... I've done it with bikes up to 600lbs... It ain't muscle,.. it's adrenalin... 350lbs is way better... When the lizard brain's talkin'... consequences are a walkin'... When you crash... you don't think... you just do it... Thinkin' comes later... I shouldn't a'.. comes later... D... |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/01/15 at 03:51:32 I know he's right. I bounced mine, so slow I was standing , legs spread, bent over, grabbed the bars and stood it up,sat down. A dose of pisstawff goes a long way. |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by Sonny on 10/06/15 at 18:31:56 After my drop a couple or three weeks ago, I recommend getting past the pissed off / adrenalin stage first, then pick it up. I yanked the S40 up twice in a row by the bars, pretty much in anger and without preparation or thinking. My lower back is still feeling it. Even if you bend your legs and lift with them while gripping the bars, your spine is misaligned and you are wanking it. It is probably very easy to lift a Savage with the butt-on-the-seat and lift-with-legs technique. A Savage is just light enough where you can lift it by the bars, but just because you can doesn't mean it's the smart way to do it. I move heavy amplifiers and PA equipment all the time, and always use my legs with the back as straight as possible. But after decades of doing it, my lower back is not in great shape by any means. Yanking up the S40 was a dumbass stunt. |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by old_rider on 10/07/15 at 13:07:18 Yeah.... panic and adrenaline didn't help me, cause the bones were not good enough to handle the load. Here is a picture of the load (from the back).... http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b471/Orphistle/2013%20Savage%20Trip/Savage4.jpg |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by Sonny on 10/07/15 at 14:09:27 That looks a wee bit tippy, all right. Going over with a load like that, the thing to do would be to pitch the pup tent and think about it, then lift it back on its rubber side. :-X |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by old_rider on 10/07/15 at 19:05:30 74686964686B070 wrote:
Gadzukes! now why didn't I think of that? :o I will have to agree with most folks though... I did not "THINK"... I just did.... and my health was not up to snuff.... I will not bow to weakness.... and THAT is my down fall :-[ |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by jcstokes on 10/07/15 at 19:15:14 Sheyte that is a load. |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by Art Webb on 10/12/15 at 08:43:27 a little word of advice from a guy who lifts heavy s*** for recreation if you have to lift a heavy load take a good breath and hold it while you lift it's like the difference between airing a tire up or running on a flat it'll save your back I actually lifted my whole bike off the back of a pickup and believe me I had a belly full when I did it |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by Sonny on 10/12/15 at 09:01:51 Thanks Art -- good advice. I actually yanked mine up while spewing profanity and ignoring everything I knew about proper lifting. Ouch. Bad technique in every way. :-/ |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/13/15 at 18:15:02 Sonny, you just don't know the best words. You use the right words and stuff gets almost fifty percent lighter for three or four seconds. Makes sense, taking a deep breath, inflate the front, help load the torso, protecting the back. But, primarily, consider the lower back. If you built a crane and ran the cable to lift the mast only three inches above the mast pivot, the bearing pressures at the shaft the mast pivots on would be insane. SO, bending over and lifting is really putting crushing pressures on the discs in your back. Gotta bend knees. Being old, sixty, and with a knee that will just go out, both rotator scuffles damaged, I do things slowly but carefully. A rope on a load, around my waist, and lift and walk backwards slowly.. Slow is better than further damage. |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by Art Webb on 10/13/15 at 18:25:48 well the problem is that people do bend over The proper way to lift from the floor is to push the hips back so that your shoulders remain over your knees Going too low to lift with the legs put undue strain on the knees and will wreck them If you want to know the safest way to lift something ask a powerlifter Shoulders BACK and DOWN when bench pressing Hips BACK to deadlift Back locked in NEUTRAL SPINE for all lower body lifts |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/13/15 at 20:02:17 My lower back is pretty safe. Only occasionally does it get angry, but no load is required. Just a simple bend over to pick up a rag, I needed to work on the floor jack. I can't lift the thirty or so pounds without risking, not just pain, but further and permanent damage to the shoulders. I have a folding table, I stand one end up, and tie a pulley up on that end, a pulley on the jack, tie to the jack, up to th top pulley, down to the pulley on the jack, and hoist away. The load is on three lines, up a ramp,, no more than ten or twelve pounds.. tie it off on the high end, carefully lift the other end and set the legs. A five second job turned into about fifteen minutes, but I don't get hurt. When I was 21, had a 24" waist, bought my clothes in the boys department,, Man, that made me mad, I could clean and jerk 150pounds and get it to full extension and back to the floor in the house without smacking the floor. I don't think I weighed 120, |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by Art Webb on 10/14/15 at 11:43:49 that's a pretty solid clean and jerk it as aggravating as it is if that's what you got to do to get the jack up that's what you got to do to get the jack up |
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Title: Re: How to pick up a full dresser Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/14/15 at 19:47:55 It's a hard adjustment to have to make. I have a friend, bad knees, screws in his back , overweight and he is finally starting to listen to me. I have to slow him down all the time. He bends over to pick up a scrap of junk in the shop, because I'm working on his car and he thinks he owes it to me. Heck, it'll sweep up.. leave it.. I've learned, some directions, not even five pounds, or the shoulder might pop and I scream like a little girl. Guys, once they're screwed, even surgery isn't a sure fire fix. And the physical therapist who visited twice a week told me that is THE hardest, most painful surgery to recuperate from. Be careful with it. |
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