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Title: 1/1/15 Post by pg on 08/15/15 at 19:32:15 Here is what happened, quietly, on January 1, 2015: Medicare tax went from 1.45% to 2.35% (there goes your SS increase) Top Income tax bracket went from 35% to 39.6% PUNISH THE WORKERS....TO REWARD THE NON WORKERS Top Income payroll tax went from 37.4% to 52.2% MORE PUNISHMENT FOR WORKING HARD! Capital Gains tax went from 15% to 28% MORE TAX UPON INCOME THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN TAXED! Dividend tax went from 15% to 39.6% (darn!) MORE PUNISHMENT FOR INVESTING WISELY AND MAKING GOOD DECISIONS! Estate tax went from 0% to 50% PUNISHMENT FOR SAVING FOR THE NEXT GENERATION! Is this what the left wants? ::) Best regards, |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by Sonny on 08/15/15 at 23:49:03 This would be news if it were true, but of course it isn't. You are just getting chain emails from flakes. Here, let me google that for you: http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/whathappened.asp |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by Sonny on 08/16/15 at 02:15:21 My history with shocking but by the way bogus chain emails is interesting. I have a number of ultra-conservative friends who used to blast every scandalous forward they got to their whole address book, including me. For a good long time I would read one and just from following current events would know it was either completely false, or part true but part false, or factually true but being seriously misinterpreted in some sinister way. But I would take a bit of text and put it in a search engine, and immediately, two seconds later, be reading the history of that chain email and what was wrong in it. What was interesting was, I would usually get several copies of the email from different people, and even more interesting, some of them would have been forwarded as is but some had been edited to make them even more outrageous. People get these things and add to them before sending them on. They morph... and get worse and worse. I finally got tired of fact checking these fwds and got my buds to quit sending them, which they were glad to do. But most oddly, they never seemed to care when I pointed them to the errors and weirdness in these things. It's like it didn't matter to them if it any of it was true as long as it supported their narrative. Not good. The thing to know is, this goes way back in American culture. Mark Twain, one the best American writers ever, has great stuff on what incredible liars Americans in the 1800s were... he marvels at it in books like Life on the Mississippi and Roughing It, but really, all through his work. It's still true to this day in America, the crazy lying and conning, and the web and email supercharges it. It won't ever go away. It's just something to expect and not be buffaloed by. Then you can kind of chuckle at it. No point in getting ulcers over nonsense. |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by WebsterMark on 08/16/15 at 06:09:53 Ultra-liberals don't use chain emails to spread lies and exaggerations .....they used NBC nightly news. |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by old.indian on 08/16/15 at 07:44:05 Sonny, You're OK. Even if you are from Tex-ass, you're OK..... ;) |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by Serowbot on 08/16/15 at 07:57:51 Texas must not know he's there... ;D... |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/16/15 at 09:32:48 Contrary to popular belief Texas has a good percentage of people who want and look for facts. Understanding that the media, politicians and schools are much more interested in promoting propaganda to support an ongoing idea, a grasp of reality, that doesn't actually exist. Some promote one lie, others, another, and the people run get in line supporting the ones who come closest to telling about how they'll push harder for the elimination of the evils one set sees, to work against those, and for the good thet see, press hard to continue. And, at the end of the day,nothing changes. It is and has been a steady downhill run since the inception of the Fed. |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by Kris01 on 08/16/15 at 09:46:14 I get those type emails daily. Everything from "watch out for hypodermic needles in the gas pumps" to "don't flash your headlights at cars that don't have them on. It's gang initiation night" to "be careful of guys hiding under your car at night". ::) Sometimes progress seldom is! Did people ever do this with snail mail? |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by Sonny on 08/16/15 at 09:50:33 7761766B73666B70040 wrote:
I live in a fallout shelter, and breathe through a little straw poking up through the parched dirt. ;) Naw, really, Texans come in all shades of red blue and purple, like anywhere else. I try to appreciate the majesty of the process, like Pappy Bush said... |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/16/15 at 10:08:41 6B5249531011200 wrote:
Before telephones people used to write nasty letters and send them to strangers. |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by raydawg on 08/16/15 at 10:54:44 I saw some old people ( WTF.....thats me now :-[ ) looking over the canned dog food, and asking aloud if anybody has tried this one, beef banquet....?? Then I heard a woman say her dog likes it a lot. The old folk said it ain't for their dog, they can't afford one anymore, its for them. They heard that their SS was going to be taken away from them and they are just trying to survive on less. That's when I piped up and said, "It has a weird after taste with a lot of gritty texture, but you hardly notice it if you just flush it down with that dirty water the conservatives give us to drink...... |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by old.indian on 08/16/15 at 11:16:21 I actually have a few good friends who reside in Tex-ass. :o I send them sympathy and care packages of intelligent conversation on a regular basis...... |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by Sonny on 08/16/15 at 11:17:49 0F3D3A2B2C3D2A15392A33580 wrote:
Facts... can... never... be checked... Must... watch... only... Fox News... All... other... planetary information... coming from... underground mind control Cray supercomputer... operated... by... secret... Kenyan... black Muslim Antichrist...! :-/ Just kidding, man -- all in fun. That's not actually true... oh god, wait, don't forward that! ::) |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by HovisPresley on 08/16/15 at 11:56:47 Remember what Fox News gave the world from it's "terrorist specialist": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_zF7nbEvwY ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by Sonny on 08/16/15 at 11:57:35 40434B0146414B464E412F0 wrote:
Well, and one of my oldest and best friends is from ABQ. He lives down near Austin now, which is crazy and I tell him so. He grew up hiking in the glorious Sandias under that cobalt blue New Mexico sky, and now he's stuck in a traffic jam on I-35 south. Go figure. I think it's his wife's fault. She is some kind of regional honcho for the VA down there. |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by raydawg on 08/16/15 at 12:09:47 Also not reported on 1-1-15 by Fox News is that the earth warmed over 10 degrees the previous year.... |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by Sonny on 08/16/15 at 14:39:50 64776F72776171160 wrote:
That wouldn't be true, either, unless maybe it refers to local temps somewhere. Global temperature has risen a fraction of a degree C per year on average since a low back around 1910, which is enough to cause the climate effects we are seeing. A little dab'll do ya... Here's your data, source is NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies. Error bars are in green: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.A2.gif |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by Sonny on 08/16/15 at 14:50:53 ... and that chart shows that rate of annual increase keeps getting larger. |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by Serowbot on 08/16/15 at 17:06:42 I kid Texas,... ;D... I was kinda' hoping they would secede though... :-/... We need a few more liberals here in Az, Sonny... Come on over, the weather is fine... 110' and sunny,... rained last night though... My buddy has mittens to drive his car... the wheel's too hot to touch... ;D... |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by raydawg on 08/16/15 at 17:56:51 And.... I was just a smitten, just off my Ma's tit.... And I can remember going to the San Diego Zoo. After every show, where they made the animals perform, they ALWAYS remarked these animals will become extinct because of habitat loss. Just while we were enjoying this demonstration/show, 10 acres of rainforest was destroyed. Skip many decades....... My kids were fresh off of having me dig into my wallet (tit) for more $$$$ to buy souvenirs >:( At the San Diego Zoo.... They ended these same shows with the same exact claim.... Just how big is that friggin rainforest anyway ::) I'd love folk to just tell the truth, and let us make intelligent, informed, choices based on that, if it has merit, you don't need to embellish, period. |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by old.indian on 08/16/15 at 18:00:13 I was kinda' hoping they would secede though... :-/ Yeah... Me too ;D We can always hope though..... |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by Sonny on 08/16/15 at 20:27:43 This is the wald frontier down here, what with everbody even in Dallas and Houston in their big hats, riding thur ponies, get-alongin' their little dogies, shootin' up Main Street 'n votin' for thur Gomerts and all 'at, and me out in the ge-rawdge, rainchin'. Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if'n -- once all the awl is out a' the ground, mind you -- the US didn't jess up 'n give Texas back to Mexico and kindly apologize for takin' 'er in the first place. Why, I'd be the last one to hear about it, down here in ma' fawlout shayulter! Then y'all 'ud have a BIG ole border to beald that wawl own... :D |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by raydawg on 08/16/15 at 20:34:17 You guys talk'n bout Baja Oklahoma? |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/16/15 at 21:03:22 good post, Sonny |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by Sonny on 08/16/15 at 21:41:31 I was born and raised in Dallas. It was a better place in the '50s and '60s, a good place to come up. It has turned into a stressful hot ant hill of cars and people now. My wife is from Waco. Texas breeds a lot of solid steady people. I have never lived outside the state and I still like coming home -- something about the dirt you came out of I guess. People come from all over the world to hear me & my musical associates play a Texas blues shuffle or a Bob Wills Texas swing. They think it's magic, all the Texas musical history, and it must be something in the water. Maybe so. But I also don't mind kidding my own culture. It is what it is and there's nothing to prove. ;) |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by Serowbot on 08/17/15 at 07:56:18 Sonny, what do you play?... ...any clips on youtube or anywhere?... |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by Paraquat on 08/17/15 at 09:08:34 415D5C515D5E320 wrote:
Ain't that the truth. I'm 4 generations from New Britain, CT. My mother moved to Florida in '87 and somehow I ended up back here. I'm taxed to death, can barely afford my house, I have no idea what's keeping me here... or why I even came back here. I guess I don't want to learn new roads? --Steve |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by Sonny on 08/17/15 at 10:11:32 5F495E435B4E43582C0 wrote:
I play electric bass and guitar mostly, and sing. I'm a side man and session player. I don't keep any website or social media pages or anything that are just about me. There are usually various bits around youtube and so forth. I don't produce them or okay them or speak for their quality. I don't have to hype myself. The phone rings, opportunities come along, I take the work, keeping it simple. Made a decent living for 40 some-odd years that way. It's Sonny Collie, btw. ;) |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/17/15 at 12:51:14 Holler if you are heading to Longview, Sonny. |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by Sonny on 08/17/15 at 12:58:18 Will do. |
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Title: Re: 1/1/15 Post by Serowbot on 08/17/15 at 13:05:53 4B57565B5754380 wrote:
I found you easy... doin' an acoustic guitar set... Very reminiscent of John Hiatt... Nice... 8-)... |
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