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Message started by neillien72 on 08/08/15 at 22:59:44

Title: WONT START
Post by neillien72 on 08/08/15 at 22:59:44

I got an 86 savage its been siting for awhile and I cant get it to start im giting spark .what do I check next?

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by Kris01 on 08/09/15 at 00:18:37

Air, fuel, spark. That's all you need for combustion! ;)

Is the battery charged? Carb clean? Petcock flowing? Float bowl full? How do you know you're getting spark?

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by chzeckmate on 08/09/15 at 00:37:17

How long has it been sitting? Was it in running condition when it was left to sit? Was it properly prepared for storage? What is the current condition of the bike? What have you done so far aside from turning the key and pushing the start button?

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by neillien72 on 08/09/15 at 02:01:26

i replaced the main starter gear and upgraded the idle gear to limiter gear then I put oil in it and gas it started up for a minute then it died and wouldn't start anymore so I took the carb apart the idle jet was a little bit clogged but that's all I cleaned the carb real good put it back together and it started up for two seconds and died .the bike was parked ten years ago do to the dredded kick back poisoning. there is two hoses coming off the carb I don't know were they go they don't go anywere I can see .

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/09/15 at 09:27:34

They're vents, and they are just poked up into the open end of the frame, IIRC. I'm certain they're vents, but exactly where you can stick them,,,
Just poke them up into the easiest place.
These things will give you nightmares if you don't have a Solid battery.
Every start, followed by a few seconds of run time, drains it.
Essential tools
Multimeter
Battery charger, but not a big one. Don't wanna charge it too fast.
A spare plug, so the starter is working Just like when you start it.
Check spark when the starter motor is loaded, not just spinning a motor.
Besides, it's a lot easier.
Check battery voltage while you're engaging the starter.
It's a good time to build a pigtail for a float charger. I went to Radio Shack, bought two wire connectors and put a pigtail on the bike, four wheeler and mower, now, I can plug a float charger in any of them.
Done right, it's possible to use that pigtail for the Real charger, but wire gauge must be considered going in.
Batteries are essential, unpredictable and hard to access. Building in some access for troubleshooting and charging and maintaining the charge is, IMO, worth every bit of the trouble.

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by neillien72 on 08/09/15 at 11:32:54

its a brand new battery.

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by verslagen1 on 08/09/15 at 11:51:16

646B3B3C31313A273E3220273621530 wrote:

its a brand new battery.

plenty of bad brand new batteries found here.
you should get yourself a cheap VOM and check the volts while starting.

pull the plug and see what it looks like.
how long are you spinning the starter before she fires for a second or 2?

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by Serowbot on 08/09/15 at 12:11:32

I read a while back, that your starter gear cracked your sidecase?...
When you replaced the case,... did you replace the stator and ignition pick-up?...

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by neillien72 on 08/09/15 at 21:26:20

well thanks for all your sapport ,it was the floats I put in upside down. it runs like a champ now it leaks a lot of oil but I think after the rubber plug that the magneto wires run through expands it wil stop leaking .yes the case was cracked from kickback but I welded it filled it in real nice its never going to break again I filled it in made a bridge across so it has extra sapport . the bike is too much bike for me it gos way to fast it was really scarry a lot faster than the Honda hobbit 50cc im used too . :-*

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by chzeckmate on 08/09/15 at 21:56:41

LOL...Before long you'll think it's not enough bike for you and you'll be at the dealership drooling over a Suzuki Boulevard M109 B.O.S.S.

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by jcstokes on 08/09/15 at 22:18:21

If it's scary and fast, perhaps you should consider an MSF course, or if you don't want to do that, just ride gently, gradually increasing your speed. Initially stick to low speed limited areas, then as your confidence grows you can go somewhat faster. Many people including myself are pretty much content with the bikes performance. A lot of the bobbing modding and so forth done here seem to be as much for looks as for enhanced performance. These machines are quite forgiving and are used by many as entry level bikes, others buy them when returning to motorcycling after a prolonged absence. Take it easy slowly get your confidence and you will come right. Beware violent application of the rear brake, particularly in the wet.

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by Dave on 08/10/15 at 03:56:12

212E7E7974747F627B7765627364160 wrote:

now it leaks a lot of oil but I think after the rubber plug that the magneto wires run through expands it will stop leaking .

What makes you think the rubber plug is going to expand?

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by JutMan on 08/10/15 at 04:55:00

I took the MSF about 2 years ago now, when I got my S40 i thought that 25 mph was fast cruising through the hood here. Now 45 seems lime I am crawling. Just relax and focus, as you build confidence it will get better.

Find a nice big empty parking lot and practice. I think people felt I was nuts using parking spaces to make about 100 left and right turns from a stop. Circle, stop, turn, repeat.

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by neillien72 on 08/10/15 at 19:25:28

some oil is coming out of the base cylinder gasket .did I somehow put too much oil in it ? I put two quarts there might have been a lil bit in it when I put the two in. how do you check oil level?

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by verslagen1 on 08/10/15 at 20:17:25

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1138554254

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/10/15 at 20:19:24

little sight glass embedded in clutch cover, bike vertical on level ground.