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Message started by FerousBastard on 08/07/15 at 13:30:19

Title: 'New' Savage, been sitting for a while.
Post by FerousBastard on 08/07/15 at 13:30:19

Hi all,

Just bought a '99 LS650P 16800km, all original pretty well cared for. The battery took a charge but seemed to die when driving home, causing the bike to sputter and die. Wouldn't push start. So it likely needs a new battery.
The fuel is likely pretty bad as well as it is from last year. The bike has been kept warm and ridden till warm maybe once a month.
Apart from the obvious; checking the carb, draining the old fuel, checking the plug and filters etc, is there anything else I should do/ take a look at before I take it out for a good ride?

Title: Re: 'New' Savage, been sitting for a while.
Post by verslagen1 on 08/07/15 at 13:46:45

If it sputtered and died while running likely it's a charging issue.
check a connector under the seat, 3 wires.

Title: Re: 'New' Savage, been sitting for a while.
Post by FerousBastard on 08/08/15 at 05:52:26

Thanks Verslagen, got the bike home and checked the battery - Dead as a dodo. Checked the plugs under the seat, but need to check a wiring diagram later; The rectifier looks to have been swapped at one point, screws securing it looks new and it only has two wires returning (Red and black) where the loom has three?

Title: Re: 'New' Savage, been sitting for a while.
Post by chzeckmate on 08/09/15 at 01:24:24

5576617C666051726067726177130 wrote:

...The rectifier looks to have been swapped at one point, screws securing it looks new and it only has two wires returning (Red and black) where the loom has three?

That doesn't necessarily mean it's been replaced. That's the way it is stock. Seems odd, but that's how it is. It's easy to test if you have suspicions about it. There are instructions around here and also on YouTube that are easy to follow if you have a multimeter.

Title: Re: 'New' Savage, been sitting for a while.
Post by FerousBastard on 08/09/15 at 10:52:23

07383E3924230B4D0 wrote:

Did just that earlier. Got a new battery yesterday trickle charged through the night. Once installed the bike fired up first press and idled smooth straight away. Battery read 12.22 volts stable with lights on and stabilized at 14.05 volts at around 2000 rpm, so the charging system works just fine. Took it for a 20km drive to check how the carb felt - Nothing but a slight 'stale gas' cough, so am just gonna run this tank dry and fill her up with premium. As far as I can tell cleaning the carb can wait until winter if I don't throw on another filter or muffler before then.

Thanks for your help guys!

Title: Re: 'New' Savage, been sitting for a while.
Post by chzeckmate on 08/09/15 at 14:44:57

Cheers! I wouldn't use premium, though.

Title: Re: 'New' Savage, been sitting for a while.
Post by Dave on 08/10/15 at 03:58:33

No reason to use premium, the bike doesn't need it.

You might go buy a "top shelf" fuel however.....something like Shell or Chevron. They do put more additives/detergents in their fuel than the discount stations do.

Title: Re: 'New' Savage, been sitting for a while.
Post by FerousBastard on 08/10/15 at 04:29:37

7B404D5A4B475C5A4149445B280 wrote:

It's just a local expression, but this is closest to what I meant. We only have 92 and 95 octane locally, and from memory 95 octane serves no difference in stock engine performance. The additives on the other hand.

Title: Re: 'New' Savage, been sitting for a while.
Post by Dave on 08/10/15 at 06:27:31

Ooops....sometimes I forget to look and see where folks are from.

I have absolutely no idea what kind of fuel you have in Denmark. Or how the octane numbers you use relate to ours. Here 87 octane is the one to use in the Savage, 89 is the mid grade and 91 is the Premium....some stations have 93 Octane. Just about all of it is tainted with ethanol unless you specifically search out a "pure gas" source.

Title: Re: 'New' Savage, been sitting for a while.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/10/15 at 07:04:12

Until the plug gives you reason, run it. Road grime accumulates around the plug. Clean before removing.

Title: Re: 'New' Savage, been sitting for a while.
Post by FerousBastard on 08/10/15 at 07:15:46

796660677A7D4C7C4C74666A21130 wrote:

Until the plug gives you reason, run it. Road grime accumulates around the plug. Clean before removing.

That's what I thought, plug looks fine, a little blackened but nothing major.

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I have absolutely no idea what kind of fuel you have in Denmark. Or how the octane numbers you use relate to ours. Here 87 octane is the one to use in the Savage, 89 is the mid grade and 91 is the Premium....some stations have 93 Octane.

I believe our 92 octane equates roughly to your 89 octane, and 95 to 91. Some stations cary 98 octane performance gasoline, but it's very few. Someone once told me the labeling is different or the chemical composition is a little different from Europe to the US.

Title: Re: 'New' Savage, been sitting for a while.
Post by Kris01 on 08/10/15 at 14:21:51

This engine will run on the lowest octane available. I wouldn't worry about what the numbers mean.

The compression is so low (8:1? Or is it 8.5:1?) that it will run fine on whatever is available.