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Title: My Savage wont start!! Post by trevorw on 06/25/15 at 17:51:13 Hello! So last week I ran my bike out of gas and had to push the old girl home, it was great, hottest day of the year so far!! SO here is the issue I am having, I was riding down the road and the bike dies, i thought i had gas so I kept starting it up and it would start then when I would let out the clutch it would just die, the tank was on fumes. So I kept trying to get er to start and eventually it wouldnt go, then the starter just stopped, when I hit the button there was kind of a clicking sound, I thought it was coming from the relay, so I replaced that and charged up my battery. I hit the button and no go, all there is is a clicking sound coming from this thing that is under the gas tank, not sure what it is called, I am not a mechanic, but it just clicks when I hit the starter button. I put my multi meter to the battery and when I hit the starter button the battery goes down to like 6. something something, so I bought a new battery and its on the charger right now so hoping that is the problem, but if anyone has any ideas that would just be super duper. Aaaaaaaaand yes I did do a search for this topic but could find nothing! Thank fellow Savage riders!! ;) |
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Title: Re: My Savage wont start!! Post by Serowbot on 06/25/15 at 18:21:15 So,... it sounds like you already know the problem... You ran out of gas, and killed the battery trying to start it... New battery,.. charge it fully (they usually come with a low or no charge)... then put gas in the bike... |
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Title: Re: My Savage wont start!! Post by chzeckmate on 06/25/15 at 18:53:26 Well sounds like you did some troubleshooting and found the problem...Good job! I might mention that clickety clickety from the starter almost always means bad/low battery. I would venture to say you didn't need to replace the relay. Just out of curiosity, were you on reserve? I mean if you were on reserve when the engine stalled then I think it would be a natural assumption you were out of fuel. If you didn't know you were running out of fuel you might have the petcock set on the "prime" position. You might want to check that. |
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Title: Re: My Savage wont start!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/25/15 at 19:21:31 If you run outta gas, you've gotta put the petcock on prime and let the carb bowl fill up. |
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Title: Re: My Savage wont start!! Post by trevorw on 06/25/15 at 19:32:26 Thanks guys, I just wasn't sure if it may be something funky in the wiring as I have never heard that kind of clicking before! Thought possibly maybe something was shorted out. I did not know about the prime thing, thats good to know, and it was on reserve, so from now on I will make sure its not on reserve, and if I go on any long trips I am taking extra fuel as I don't think these bikes get to make km's to a tank haha! Thanks again brothers! |
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Title: Re: My Savage wont start!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/25/15 at 19:45:57 The click is the solenoid. It chatters because the battery is too low on charge to hold the solenoid engaged . When it engages, its closing a switch, and that puts the starter motor in the circuit, drawing curent,lowering the voltage, causing the solenoid to have too few volts , it releases, opens, unloads , cycle repeats. |
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Title: Re: My Savage wont start!! Post by trevorw on 06/25/15 at 21:00:33 687771766B6C5D6D5D65777B30020 wrote:
Thank you for the info, I feel much better now and cant wait to hook up my battery tomorrow! |
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Title: Re: My Savage wont start!! Post by trevorw on 06/26/15 at 19:35:23 So I got the new battery in and whatta you know, what do i hear...."click" so it wasnt the battery, if anyone has any ideas that would be sweet, maybe the starter? I did how ever push start it and it ran!!!!! |
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Title: Re: My Savage wont start!! Post by chzeckmate on 06/26/15 at 19:48:00 7D7B6C7F667B7E090 wrote:
I'll still say battery. Check the voltage, check the terminals, cables, etc... |
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Title: Re: My Savage wont start!! Post by verslagen1 on 06/26/15 at 20:10:11 you did replace the relay, is it good? sometimes they stick, give it a rap with a screwdriver. check all the connections. |
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Title: Re: My Savage wont start!! Post by Boogie_with_Stu on 06/27/15 at 02:36:56 I'm far from an expert, but that starter motor is not the greatest. The fact that you kept trying to start it over and over and over again...possible you seized the starter motor. The relay would still click because it is trying to do it's job. I have never had my starter out of the bike so I have no idea if it is as simple as it looks (2 bolts), but if you can get it out...make sure it spins freely. Then hook a set of jumper cables to it and test it (for a very SHORT time). I'd advise having it clamped to a bench or a short piece of 2x4 when you test it...it may bounce around a bit. |
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Title: Re: My Savage wont start!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/27/15 at 06:38:41 Save the wrenches. Put it in Neutral Jumper cables Straight to the frame, engine block, something,battery ground, Hot wire on starter terminal. If it spins, aint the starter. You can build smaller pigtails,if your jumpers are unwieldy,,get some cheapo jumpers from HARBOR FREIGHT or, hook up a battery charger, get 12 volts straight to the starter. |
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Title: Re: My Savage wont start!! Post by Serowbot on 06/27/15 at 10:03:12 Check all the connections... Battery to ground, battery to solenoid, to starter... etc... |
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Title: Re: My Savage wont start!! Post by trevorw on 06/27/15 at 14:01:18 Thanks for all the tips, so here is an update, last night I figured it may be the starter so I did the old bypass everything and hooked up power right to the starter aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnd... NOTHING!! So I took the starter off and checked it one more time hooking up some power to it and still nothing, so I took it apart which is super easy to do and voila, one of the magnets broke, there was pieces of magnet everywhere, so I took it all apart got all the old magnet out (there is four) and cleaned everything up. So now I know I will need a new starter housing, everything else was good in the starter, I put it all back together and threw it back in the bike and sure as shizubbles it started right up! Thanks again for all your help! |
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Title: Re: My Savage wont start!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/27/15 at 16:05:29 Ahhh, so, it was the old Broken Magnet Trick, ehh, Chief? Bummer, dude, but you figured it out... |
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Title: Re: My Savage wont start!! Post by chzeckmate on 06/27/15 at 16:23:05 Well done! |
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Title: Re: My Savage wont start!! Post by trevorw on 06/27/15 at 19:05:50 455A5C5B4641704070485A561D2F0 wrote:
It sure was, I was going nuts checking all the wires and connections and didn't want to be replacing parts so I figured I would go for gold and dig into the starter! I did not know a magnet could do that! I should have taken some pictures it was pretty intense! |
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Title: Re: My Savage wont start!! Post by trevorw on 06/27/15 at 19:07:10 3835353D333F772D332E3277292E2F5A0 wrote:
You were right! It was the starter! Super easy to take out and take apart, no problems getting it all back together and in again either. |
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