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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 06/19/15 at 15:57:07

Title: whose idea was THAT?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/19/15 at 15:57:07

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TxIliFSPWsE


So, these geniuses are gonna put a laboratory where crazy people play with deadly pathogen s and make them worse in Kansas,
I think thats where Lymes came from.
Okay, lets put it in Tornado Alley, and the heart of cattle country.
Sounds smart to me.




Ronald L. Ray —

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and associated research facilities are supposed to be the safest and most secure medical laboratories in the world, providing cutting-edge innovations in protecting and improving human, animal and plant health. But recent near-disasters point up years of ongoing systemic failures and apparent coverups, suggesting that the CDC may pose a bioterror threat greater than the potential hazards it is supposed to mitigate.

Combine this sort of dangerous human “error” with the new National Bio and Agro-Defense Facility (NBAF), planned near downtown Manhattan, Kansas (2010 pop. 52,281), to replace the aging Plum Island center, and it may be only a matter of time before the heart of America is struck by a health catastrophe or depopulation event, which could quickly destroy the largest part of United States agriculture or livestock production and endanger the health and lives of millions of Americans.

In ongoing research and reporting, USA Today has exposed major safety and security lapses at the CDC’s flagship research facility in Atlanta, Georgia and elsewhere. Notable problems have been documented by the Department of Health and Human Services inspector general to extend back almost a decade, including security, access, handling and training deficiencies involving the world’s deadliest pathogens. Over 1,000 significant incidents were reported just during 2009-2012—literally a daily occurrence in a five-day work week.





PAY ATTENTION HERE.



This past June, CDC scientists shipped live anthrax spores, which they had failed to inactivate properly, to other laboratories. At least 86 people were exposed as a result. Because the dangerous spores may have been aerosolized, the labs had to be closed and decontaminated. In July, the Food and Drug Administration’s National Institutes of Health discovered uncatalogued, decades-old vials of live smallpox virus in cold storage at a facility.

And here...


In August, the CDC admitted that one of their scientists seriously mishandled H5N1 bird influenza, because he was in a hurry to get to a meeting. The researcher initially lied to investigators about his behavior. Contaminated virus samples were sent to another lab, which discovered the lapse when their study birds died. One official said it was only “very lucky” that something worse did not occur. Had environmental release occurred, it could have caused the poultry industry catastrophic loss and a possible transfer to human beings. Unfound, the mishandling also would have caused widespread errors in influenza research.

But when the NBAF—currently under construction— is completed, the likelihood of human, animal and plant exposure to deadly pathogens and toxins, whether accidental or intentional, will multiply significantly. Economic consequences would run into the billions of dollars. A 2009 Congressional Research Service report raised major risk issues like often-violent Kansas storms, importation of animal hoof and mouth disease to the mainland and lack of adequate containment measures. A 463-page, 2010 Department of Homeland Security risk assessment, however, appears to have whitewashed the dangers in order to obtain congressional funding.

Past efforts by this writer, who lives downwind of NBAF, to bring dangers to the attention of politicians were brushed off with vague assertions of allegedly adequate safety measures, the details of which remain conveniently “classified”. The CDC history, however, confirms the dangerous truth.

But for a perceived, relatively minor and short-term economic benefit, congresspersons and senators have sold their souls to the plutocratic demands of Big Ag, Big Pharma and the chamber of commerce, while ignoring the protests of concerned citizens.

The program manager of NBAF and the offices of Representatives Tim Huelskamp (R), who represents most of rural Kansas, and Fred Upton (R-Mich.), chairman of the U.S. House Committee on Energy & Commerce, all failed to respond to this newspaper’s requests for interviews.

- See more at: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=19390#.dpuf
Ronald L. Ray —

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and associated research facilities are supposed to be the safest and most secure medical laboratories in the world, providing cutting-edge innovations in protecting and improving human, animal and plant health. But recent near-disasters point up years of ongoing systemic failures and apparent coverups, suggesting that the CDC may pose a bioterror threat greater than the potential hazards it is supposed to mitigate.

Combine this sort of dangerous human “error” with the new National Bio and Agro-Defense Facility (NBAF), planned near downtown Manhattan, Kansas (2010 pop. 52,281), to replace the aging Plum Island center, and it may be only a matter of time before the heart of America is struck by a health catastrophe or depopulation event, which could quickly destroy the largest part of United States agriculture or livestock production and endanger the health and lives of millions of Americans.

In ongoing research and reporting, USA Today has exposed major safety and security lapses at the CDC’s flagship research facility in Atlanta, Georgia and elsewhere. Notable problems have been documented by the Department of Health and Human Services inspector general to extend back almost a decade, including security, access, handling and training deficiencies involving the world’s deadliest pathogens. Over 1,000 significant incidents were reported just during 2009-2012—literally a daily occurrence in a five-day work week.









This past June, CDC scientists shipped live anthrax spores, which they had failed to inactivate properly, to other laboratories. At least 86 people were exposed as a result. Because the dangerous spores may have been aerosolized, the labs had to be closed and decontaminated. In July, the Food and Drug Administration’s National Institutes of Health discovered uncatalogued, decades-old vials of live smallpox virus in cold storage at a facility.

In August, the CDC admitted that one of their scientists seriously mishandled H5N1 bird influenza, because he was in a hurry to get to a meeting. The researcher initially lied to investigators about his behavior. Contaminated virus samples were sent to another lab, which discovered the lapse when their study birds died. One official said it was only “very lucky” that something worse did not occur. Had environmental release occurred, it could have caused the poultry industry catastrophic loss and a possible transfer to human beings. Unfound, the mishandling also would have caused widespread errors in influenza research.

But when the NBAF—currently under construction— is completed, the likelihood of human, animal and plant exposure to deadly pathogens and toxins, whether accidental or intentional, will multiply significantly. Economic consequences would run into the billions of dollars. A 2009 Congressional Research Service report raised major risk issues like often-violent Kansas storms, importation of animal hoof and mouth disease to the mainland and lack of adequate containment measures. A 463-page, 2010 Department of Homeland Security risk assessment, however, appears to have whitewashed the dangers in order to obtain congressional funding.

Past efforts by this writer, who lives downwind of NBAF, to bring dangers to the attention of politicians were brushed off with vague assertions of allegedly adequate safety measures, the details of which remain conveniently “classified”. The CDC history, however, confirms the dangerous truth.

But for a perceived, relatively minor and short-term economic benefit, congresspersons and senators have sold their souls to the plutocratic demands of Big Ag, Big Pharma and the chamber of commerce, while ignoring the protests of concerned citizens.

The program manager of NBAF and the offices of Representatives Tim Huelskamp (R), who represents most of rural Kansas, and Fred Upton (R-Mich.), chairman of the U.S. House Committee on Energy & Commerce, all failed to respond to this newspaper’s requests for interviews.

- See more at: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=19390#.dpuf

Title: Re: whose idea was THAT?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/22/15 at 07:57:21

Really? You don't think it's serious? Why am I seeing less caring.
All the environmentalists otta be goin crazy and everyone with any grasp
of the potential consequences should be joining in.
Is it what you want? Just don't care? Or, you know it doesn't matter what you want,,, THEY gonna do what THEY are told to do.

Title: Re: whose idea was THAT?
Post by MnSpring on 06/24/15 at 20:06:14


Quote:
... suggesting that the CDC may pose a bioterror threat greater than the potential hazards it is supposed to mitigate. ...


Na, everyone,
the, 'sheepol', are all told,
(And Believe it)

It is Far Worse,
To have a, 'pipeline', containing crud oil,
because it may, 'spill', crud oil on the ground.

Never mind, that crud oil, CAME  from the ground !


Title: Re: whose idea was THAT?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/24/15 at 20:54:22

Its indefensible. I wish Bush had done it.

Title: Re: whose idea was THAT?
Post by WebsterMark on 06/25/15 at 08:24:27

What is your beef about putting this in Kansas? You're afraid of a tornado?

Title: Re: whose idea was THAT?
Post by Serowbot on 06/25/15 at 09:55:26


1F3C0122203B3C35520 wrote:
Never mind, that crud oil, CAME  from the ground !

Anthrax comes from the ground too... ;D...

Title: Re: whose idea was THAT?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/25/15 at 10:48:25

So, you're okay with the laboratory in Tornado Alley?
A little hoof and mouth gets out, yeah, Great idea...
The
We are gonna do this and it's gonna be juuust fine
batting average just isn't that good.


Wait till the New and Improved,NAFTA on steroids, TPP gets going.

Title: Re: whose idea was THAT?
Post by Serowbot on 06/25/15 at 11:10:21

Google the current Plum Island Center and you'll see it's in heavily populated NY, Long Island, and located about 50ft from the ocean.
With water levels rising, it will be underwater in a few years, and is probably now susceptible to flood.

It's hard to name a place today that isn't in danger of flood, storm, drought, earthquake, tornado, hurricane, sink holes, etc....

Not just CDC,.. but radioactive waste, chemical waste, coal ash, nuclear facilities, military weapons stockpiles...

There's no safe place to put nuttin'... :-?...  

Title: Re: whose idea was THAT?
Post by WebsterMark on 06/25/15 at 11:59:12

coincidentally, I was talking to a microbiologist yesterday in the Chicago area. We actually discussed the lab in Manhattan Kansas and the CDC in Atlanta. The reason the new lab was built in Manhattan and not the Atlanta area was because of a small number of activist.  so the lab,  which is needed and was going to  be built no matter what, was moved to the secondary location, Manhattan Kansas.

Title: Re: whose idea was THAT?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/25/15 at 14:43:01

Why not stick it somewhere we done crapped on? How about Not where the beef is raised? Some place
Out There

I'm digging the idea of somewhere around area51, and maybe underground.
Plum Island is thought to be where Lymes disease came from.
To see a lab put where it can do plenty of harm is no big shock.
Look at the legislation. Is it designed to help Americans?

Title: Re: whose idea was THAT?
Post by Steve H on 07/09/15 at 21:39:28

A51 is expempt by presidential order from any and all environmental laws.  Oversight, since sequestered in the hills in the middle of a firing range with deadly force authorized for anyone not having special s-4 clearance might be a problem too.  I can see all sorts of horror stories coming from that.  That might actually be worse than putting it in the middle of an area known for apocalyptic weather events. Wonder if it will be designed to completely (no damage) withstand the worst F-5 on record.

But, I do get what you are saying.

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