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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 06/18/15 at 05:48:53

Title: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/18/15 at 05:48:53

A woman, passing herself as black.

Why did no one say anything?

And I've heard some talking heads have said

If she wants to be black, okay, let her... It's okay.

Well, im 5'6"", white, wimpy,
I wanna be the big dude who did the GreeenMile..

Aaaand if I cant do all that, ill settle for the money.

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by WebsterMark on 06/18/15 at 08:41:18

Next time I have to fill out a form that ask for race/gender etc... I think I'll self-identify as 5 or 6 of the choice just to see what happens.

I'll be a transgender, non-identifying she-male of Asian origins with non-specific disabilities that qualifies me for airport pre-boarding and low interest small business loans.

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/18/15 at 09:06:03

Hey, if thats how ya FEEL,get after it..

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by Serowbot on 06/18/15 at 09:06:42

They say that 1 in 5 "white" Americans have black blood in their ancestry and don't know it...
If you have family origins in any of the slave states, the likelihood would be much greater...
Probably 3 in 5...
So,... we all got a little soul in us...

I still can't dance... :-/...

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/18/15 at 09:09:30

Muppets arent known for their
Soul Train
moves.

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by WebsterMark on 06/18/15 at 11:26:03

Which of course means the reverse is true. Three out of five blacks have white blood, which means they can -_________________. Fill in the blank!

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by HovisPresley on 06/18/15 at 12:10:01

013334252233241B37243D560 wrote:

Which of course means the reverse is true. Three out of five blacks have white blood....

......................................................................

It doesn't necessarily work like that.

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by WebsterMark on 06/18/15 at 12:16:40

You're a poor fisherman Hovis.

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by HovisPresley on 06/18/15 at 12:54:56

Statistically, and genetically;

Chromosomes....
XX female, XY male, YY Delilah

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by Kris01 on 06/18/15 at 18:32:21

5F495E435B4E43582C0 wrote:

They say that 1 in 5 "white" Americans have black blood in their ancestry and don't know it...
If you have family origins in any of the slave states, the likelihood would be much greater...

I can trace my ancestry back to Ireland to around the late 1500's. I'm part Irish, English, German, French and possibly Cherokee. I'm sure Ms. Whatsherface has a similar ancestry. Just because she prefers an afrocentric lifestyle doesn't make her "black". No one saw a problem with this until recently? :o

Using the court system as an example, when a case is won it sets a precedent. Other cases are won because of these precedents. If she's black can I sign up for Affirmative Action and be guaranteed a job before someone else regardless of qualifications? I see lawsuits in the future. You know some idiot will try it!

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by mpescatori on 06/19/15 at 05:17:32

053730212637201F332039520 wrote:

You're a poor fisherman Hovis.

Hey ! I thought I had a legitimate right to that !!!

;D

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by mpescatori on 06/19/15 at 05:18:28

162423323524330C20332A410 wrote:

Which of course means the reverse is true. Three out of five blacks have white blood, which means they can -_________________. Fill in the blank!

Given my 5 years in Virginia State Schools, may I call myself an eyewitness to this being a proven fact ?

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by Pine on 06/21/15 at 16:04:04

Dnews Youtube channel had an episode, stating that "race" is not a scientific existing reality. (Though they murmurered softly that ethnicity is). Their take is that "race" is a social construct. They then compared the whole then to "breeds" of dogs. There is no such thing as a "purebred" dog. In the end they are all just dogs. Breeds are simply dogs that have been breed from other breeds such that you can maintain a set characteristics within some constraint of bloodlines.

For me in the end, I could see their point, but it was still insulting. Humans have "bred" into bloodlines that carry some set of traits. That does not mean that the tendency for social groups to label them is any less "real".

That groups then attach generalities to whole swaths of other humans based race, is, in my book wrong. The same could be said of gender. It is a scientific FACT that all humans have as mammalian trait the need to categorize.. just about everything we meet in our existence. It generally rather serves us well and is one of the traits that separates us from all other forms of life on the planet. That this trait would be used by small minded or narrow minded individuals to either exclude a competitor or lift their meager self esteem is a given.

it is up to each of us to decide to buy into it (racism), and or question how much we let such notions effect our relations with other humans. As to me personally, being old and a father, I do wonder if I allowed gender bias affect my relationships with my son (age 17) and my daughter (age 23), or even with my own wife. Although I am a white man in the deep south, I feel on the whole my relations with other "races/ethnicity) reflects well on my life. Do I still generalize every so often? sure, I find most often I do so when there is a distinct lack of information. And as information comes in (meaning I meet others of some otherwise new to me race), I am much better checking those gut feelings to generalize. I think you would be extremely hard pressed to find anyone that knows me to characterize me as racist. Though I have met people I did not know ( from California) that ASSUMED I must racist. (She, a black woman asked if it was ok for us to be seated at the same table at a conference while in Salt Lake City Utah). ( of course also wanted to know if we had indoor plumbing, I didn't much like her)

As to self-identifying... that seems to be all the rage for gender and seems to be back-filling into race/ethnicity. What-ever. I guess I really don't care to argue about how one "self identifies". Some one can "S I" as an "fluid elf" for all I care... But doing so I reserve the RIGHT to revert to not having enough information and therefore to categorize all those that use that label until I have experience to remove my generalizations.

IE ... anyone self- identifiing as elf = MORON until I information that proves my gut categorization invalid. And thats my right. ;)

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by MnSpring on 06/21/15 at 17:33:47

Let’s see:
I carry a Flag, and March,
and the Flag says:
‘Gay/Black/Asian/Somalian/Islam/Indian/etc.” ‘Pride’.
that is perfectly OK, and on the news at 5,6 &10,
as, ‘Wonderful”.

Yet, I carry a sign saying:
'White Pride”
And am called, (something else).

Why ?????

Perhaps, 'some people',
are MORE, Equal. that others.

Gee, I can't say, 'What I Think",
But, 'others' can ?

What is that statement?
'Home of the FREE, and land of the Brave' ?

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by WD on 06/22/15 at 08:15:54

4B685576746F6861060 wrote:

Land of the free (ride) and home of depraved (indifference)...

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/22/15 at 09:25:26

I can't count the times I've heard politicians blame the voters, calling us apathetic.

apathy
[ [ch712]ap[ch601]TH[ch275] ]
NOUN
lack of interest, enthusiasm, or concern:
"widespread apathy among students"
synonyms: indifference · lack of interest · lack of enthusiasm

I guess, technically, that's true. BUT,how many times could you get pumped up and excited about engaging in anything if ever stinking time you prepared ( study to make a decision, train for a physical contest ) , no matter how much you invested in it, the end result is always a disappointment.
At what point is it not reasonable to call it apathy and just call it resigned to being dragged into a socio-economic,political hole ?

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by Paraquat on 06/22/15 at 11:03:42

There's a difference between apathy and wisdom.
Apathy is not caring.
I believe most are becoming wiser regarding campaign promises, and not falling for the bullsheet anymore.

--Steve

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/22/15 at 11:16:02

indifference · lack of interest · lack of enthusiasm

Sufficient wisdom, insight, understanding the futility, creates indifference · lack of interest · lack of enthusiasm .
So, in a way, wisdom fits.

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by WebsterMark on 06/22/15 at 15:43:27

1627342737332732460 wrote:

There's a difference between apathy and wisdom.
Apathy is not caring.
I believe most are becoming wiser regarding campaign promises, and not falling for the bullsheet anymore.

--Steve

Obama was reelected despite lying repeatedly. Hillary is a leading contender. We're getting worse not better.

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/22/15 at 21:50:41

I called HC as next when Obama was elected.

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by mpescatori on 06/23/15 at 00:27:16

7841464D5C475A280 wrote:

May I politely not agree... not with Pine, but with the "whomevers" who claim "race is a social construct".

Let's go back to "Pre-Colombian" Days, when Europe was war-torn Europe and Africa and the Americas and Oceania were left very much to their own selves.

The Bolivian native was characterized by physical adaptations which allowed him to live at 4000m. as his daily routine: big lungs, big feet, move slowly to use as little oxygen as possible, long cold winters and mild summers.

The Polinesian native was characterized by physical characteristics which allowed him to live as a sea-farer: his eyes were accustomed to the glare of the sun on the sea, his body was accustomed to living exposed to sun and salt all his life, etc.

The Mandingo and the Bushman living at the edges of opposite deserts, on opposite Tropics in Africa lived in differing environments and had developed differing traits: the Mandingo lived by the banks of the rivers Volta and Niger, and was tall and relied on agriculture, hence his body; the Bushman lived by the edges of the Kalahari and relied on hunting and even had (still has) to hunt for water.

In what is today modern northern Canada, the Eskimo was a hunter who would go on long and often fatal hunts in the winter, and his diet consisted of amounts of animal fat that would kill a modern citydweller.

And somebody insists that "race is a social construct" ? ::)

So how is it that we have different races of wild animals, who are reciprocally compatible but have evolved in different ways ?

So how is it that we have blond scandinavians, ink black nubians, slant-eyed chinese and purple-skinned australian aborigenes ?

We are one species, many races. It's not politics nor social construct, it's biology. :)

Some controversial food for thought (not that I agree to all, but that's why it's called "food for thought" :
- http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity.com/RaceandIQWorldMap.htm

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AkoBwXNZvHs/Tg_EqJNu9aI/AAAAAAAAAP4/b5kejnEoiEs/s1600/HumanMitoEvol.GIF

http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity.com/Photos/Races%20Y%20Chromosome.jpghttp://www.humanbiologicaldiversity.com/Photos/Races%20Mitochondrial%20DNA.jpg

And... my favorite... 8-)

http://beijoscorner.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/beauty-of-the-races-four-women-models.jpg

Sorry for the oversize picture, but I'm sure you won't mind... actually, I'm sure you won't even notice this last remakr without a smiley [grin]

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by Pine on 06/23/15 at 06:17:47

I applaud your post, mpescatori.

I think I forgot a link to their story: ( and it was not DNews but a spin-off Testtube plus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK3sguRWYK0

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by WebsterMark on 06/23/15 at 07:48:30

those eyes on that 3rd girl from the left are killers.....!

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by Dane Allen on 06/23/15 at 15:27:33

I wonder if the Seafoam will remove some of that buildup on my Y chromosome...

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/23/15 at 16:12:56

Great post ,Pesci.

Title: Re: is it just too weird to talk about?
Post by Art Webb on 07/16/15 at 22:13:20

Great post Pesci
Racism is the social construct
put a buncha toddlers together, see if they exhibit racism

I am captivated by the eyes of #3 from the left,too, though I think it's also facial structure, etc