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Title: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by Igggy on 06/06/15 at 15:31:07 Not too far away from having to cover and store the S40's for the summer here in the desert. My questions is: After completing draining the tank and carb bowl, what, if anything would you put in the tank? Looking at about 4 months of storage. Thanks. |
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Title: Re: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by Serowbot on 06/06/15 at 15:34:54 Lemme' guess... You live in Yuma?... :-/... |
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Title: Re: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by DesertRat on 06/06/15 at 15:40:25 personally, i would not leave it dry ... it gets too darn hot here and you could dry out all the o-rings and thats a PITA come riding time ... STA-bil the fuel, shake and run a few minutes ... every couple weeks head out and start it up just to keep things lubed up *edit to add GREAT link: http://www.bikebandit.com/community/guides/how-to-winterize-your-motorcycle |
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Title: Re: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by Serowbot on 06/06/15 at 15:49:24 I rode today,.. and I'm planning on 80 miles Monday... Jes, keep wettin' yer' shirt... and drinkin' a lot... ;D... |
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Title: Re: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by DesertRat on 06/06/15 at 15:56:34 2731263B23363B20540 wrote:
ya, you're in TUCSON, you can head to the hills ;) lol yuma is HELL fire hot in the summer, not that it's much different than tucson, but ther's def a diff ... |
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Title: Re: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by KennyG on 06/06/15 at 17:15:49 Rat, If you want to keep the tank and the carburetor wet use kerosene. Back in the olden times, in the North East, when we would store a bike over the winter we would fill the tank and carburetor with kerosene to prevent the seals and o-riings from drying out. In the spring we would drain the tank and carb and use the kerosene in the space heaters that we used to keep our garages warm when we worked on the bikes. I am guessing you have no need for space heaters in Arizona. I have been told that kerosene is very expensive in some areas, and may be cost prohibitive. In that case I would investigate using diesel fuel for this purpose. Kenny G |
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Title: Re: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by Steve H on 06/07/15 at 04:20:10 Diesel will eat some rubber compounds that are used in gas fuel systems. I don't know for sure if the savage has any rubber parts that would be susceptible or not. |
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Title: Re: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by Dave on 06/07/15 at 04:41:54 If you have a local airport that will sell you Avgas 100LL....fill up your tank with that. It won't gum up your carb or do anything weird, and you can just ride it and use the fuel up when you are ready to go again. It has more octane than you need....but will run just fine for a tankful. You can add Sta-Bil to it....but most likely there is no reason to for a couple of months of storage. |
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Title: Re: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by DesertRat on 06/07/15 at 08:54:31 i'm wondering if octane boost could sub for the AVGas |
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Title: Re: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by Art Webb on 06/07/15 at 09:47:53 the recommendation for avgas isn't to raise octane, it's because avgas is ethanol free and doesn't go over like regular ethanol gas Aren't the temps lower at night there? (I know they are in Tucson) Just do an evening ride once a week, that'll be enough to keep the carb from gumming up And I agree, I would not leave a tank or carb dry in Yuma, AZ I ride here in Tx when it's 113f, just use leather to block the wind (when the temp is that high wind 'chill'works in reverse) |
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Title: Re: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by Dave on 06/07/15 at 09:52:01 09283E283F391F2C394D0 wrote:
Avgas evaporates and does not leave any kind of varnish or gum behind when it goes away. Some airplanes are stored for extended periods and you can't take a chance of having a cruddy carb - so the fuel is made to help with long term storage. It also is kind to rubber and other fuel system parts. |
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Title: Re: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by Igggy on 06/07/15 at 15:03:18 Thanks. Av gas it is. |
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Title: Re: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by Dave on 06/08/15 at 04:18:33 Avgas can be somewhat hard to get at large airports. Find a small airport and you will likely have good luck. The small "county" airport near here has self serve pumps and a credit card reader....you just take your fuel can and a credit card and buy as much as you want. And don't worry about using the Avgas...it does not burn hotter, it is not more explosive, and other than the cost there is nothing bad about it. Your bike will run a little bit richer and will most likely not have as much backfire when you let off the throttle or shut the bike off. One member on this site uses the Avgas in his bike all the time - however he has a good source for it and there is no reason to do that if you have to buy it. NOTE: The Avgas 100LL does have lead in it.....so don't use any of the leftover fuel in your catalytic equipped vehicle. You will notice your tailpipe will turn light brown/tan while you are using this fuel...that is the lead being deposited in the exhaust system. ALSO......You know anyplace that you can store the bike that is air conditioned or at least insulated? Somebody with a bit of room in a basement garage? Anything you can do to reduce the temperature extremes and fluctuations helps. |
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Title: Re: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/08/15 at 08:02:55 I have to ask How hot is too hot for riding? I was in Nevada, the car had no AC, AND when we rolled the windows down, the hot air blasting through the car Hurt, we rolled windows up and baked, We were on the cement roads, runway, taxiway, at Nellis, I think 76, yea, 76, working on the ILS, since the runway was closed for repairs, after 104 exploded and crashed. So, they used the equipment to hold a training seminar. Ohh, the Jerry Lewis telethon was going on. I wanna say it was 104,but may have been higher. Of course it is hotter on asphalt and cement, IDK, is it hotter standing on cement or asphalt? Anyway,, firefighters, in full firefighting gear, standing, arm straight out, witha boot, in intersections, taking donations. I was young, twenty, twenty one, but I knew what they were doing was hard.. now im sixty, I Know how hard it was. |
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Title: Re: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by DesertRat on 06/08/15 at 08:17:45 233C3A3D20271626162E3C307B490 wrote:
my dad came home one day, mid-summer, YUMA, from work on base. no gloves. he had second degree burns on his hands and parts of his exposed face from riding home. most folks on here park for the winter, we park for the summer unless night riding, and then it's still 110° at 9:00 pm. |
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Title: Re: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/08/15 at 08:45:48 Yeah, it Seems strange at first, but once you get to a certain temperature, it's a blast furnace. I've ridden all night in Odessa. And gotten off and suddenly felt so hot I HAD to get back on and ride. |
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Title: Re: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by Igggy on 06/09/15 at 13:56:51 Seems our 2 small airports in the valley will not sell AV gas to civilians, only pilots. So after some interweb searching I've come up with plan B. 1. Drain tank and float bowl of all existing fuel. 2. Fill tank completely with non-ethanol fuel* 3. Add appropriate amount of Sea Foam to the tank** 4. Run engine to make sure treated fuel has made it through the carb. 5. Drain float bowl. 6. Park for the next 3-4 months. * Most people feel that the ethanol is what mostly gums up the works. The only non-ethanol fuel I could find was racing fuel, 110 octane, $8 a gallon. Strangely enough, it is widely available. ** Sea Foam wins by a wide margin as a gas treatment over the more commonly cited stabilizers. |
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Title: Re: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by Art Webb on 06/09/15 at 21:14:53 Your airports think they're an enforcement arm apparently ;D Ours here is self serve (doesn't even have traffic controllers) you can actually pull up to the pump on your bike but $5 a gallon and my S40 doesn't like the stuff (my Rebel loved it) |
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Title: Re: Preparing Fuel Tank for Storage Post by Dave on 06/10/15 at 04:25:41 I have encountered the "NO AVGAS FOR YOU!" attitude at a larger airport once. That is why I was glad to find a small county airport that is self serve. The issue that they are concerned about I believe, is that there is no "Road Tax" on the fuel, and they don't want to get in trouble for selling fuel to someone that might use it on the road. The racing fuel will be fine....however I would still use the Sta-Bil rather than SeaFoam - but that is a personal decision. I bought a 55 gallon drum of gasoline without ethanol to use in my mowers and added Sta-Bil, and I used it for 2 years before it was all gone. It still looked and smelled fine right to the end. |
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