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Message started by ihasabike on 06/03/15 at 20:38:37

Title: Person Weight Limit?
Post by ihasabike on 06/03/15 at 20:38:37

Does the S40 have a weight capacity? I can't seem to find anything that indicates that it does. Is there a person weight limit where you would advise (or want to advise) the person they are too heavy for the S40, and that they need a bigger bike?

Title: Re: Person Weight Limit?
Post by verslagen1 on 06/03/15 at 21:00:42

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We print wet weight and GVWR together on our specification forms for test bikes to make it easy to see how much weight the bike can carry. If you can't find these figures for your bike in our pages, any serious magazine test probably includes wet weight, and GVWR is included on the vehicle-identification-number (VIN) plate (usually found on or near the steering head) on all current bikes as well as the owner's manual. If you still can't find a wet weight, add about 50 pounds to the manufacturer's specified dry weight. If the weight you are dealing with is for a partially-filled tank, add six pounds for each additional gallon of fuel. For most big current cruisers, the available payload turns out to be about 400 pounds.

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Title: Re: Person Weight Limit?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/03/15 at 21:01:29

If you park it and as you're walking away, turn, to look back at it, and it's GONE,, and then realize it is stuck in your crack, you've certainly met Aaand exceeded the limit.

Title: Re: Person Weight Limit?
Post by oldNslow on 06/04/15 at 05:21:06

My owners manual (page 32) lists the GVWR for the S40 as 785 pounds.

Dry weight is listed as 352 pounds.

Using Verslagen's estimate of 50 pounds for the fluids, wet weight is 402.

785 - 402 gives a load capacity of 383 pounds.

I think 50 pounds might be a little high for the fluids. 30 is probably closer, which makes the wet weight 382.

785 - 382 is a load capacity of 403 pounds.

I'd probably split the difference between those two number to be safe.

Title: Re: Person Weight Limit?
Post by Dave on 06/04/15 at 05:37:38

Gasoline weighs about 6 pounds per gallon.....2.8 x 6 = 16.8 pounds.
Oil weight about 7.5 pounds per gallon...0.5 x 7.5 = 3.75 pounds.

Total fluid weight is 20.55 pounds.

(Is the acid in the battery a fluid weight?)

Title: Re: Person Weight Limit?
Post by HovisPresley on 06/04/15 at 06:11:18

57484E4954536252625A48440F3D0 wrote:

If you park it and as you're walking away, turn, to look back at it, and it's GONE,, and then realize it is stuck in your crack, you've certainly met Aaand exceeded the limit.

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Title: Re: Person Weight Limit?
Post by Neilap on 06/04/15 at 09:34:57

Versy and everyone is right. the GVWR is near 800 (I think suzuki has it at like 780 or something) I am 350 pounds and only issues I have is the rear shocks use my spine more than themselves.

Title: Re: Person Weight Limit?
Post by verslagen1 on 06/04/15 at 10:02:10

7D565A5F5243330 wrote:

Versy and everyone is right. the GVWR is near 800 (I think suzuki has it at like 780 or something) I am 350 pounds and only issues I have is the rear shocks use my spine more than themselves.

For you I'd definitely recommend upgrading the shocks.
Check out s'bots bike. I think he has intruder shocks about 11.5"
The savage shocks are about 10.5" and only have 1.5" travel.
longer shocks, more travel is what you want.

I got that quote from a Heavy and Dam heavy site. Hense larger capacities required.

Title: Re: Person Weight Limit?
Post by oldNslow on 06/04/15 at 10:30:20

665D5047565A41475C545946350 wrote:

Sorry Dave. I see that that 50 lb # came from Versy, not you. Probably true of some of the larger cruisers. I was still workin' on my first cup of coffee this morning when I read the post.

A lot of mfrs. list a "ready to ride" or "in riding order" weight rather than a "wet weight"
I wonder if that includes the weight of the "entire" battery. I don't know if all new bikes are shipped with the battery installed, but one of the salesman at a big dealership near me told me once that none of the bikes in their showroom have batteries in them. Makes sense. Some of those bike sit on the floor for a long time, particularly during the winter.

Title: Re: Person Weight Limit?
Post by Dave on 06/04/15 at 10:38:43

My Honda holds 7 gallons of fuel.....so that would be 42 pounds!

MMRanch usually has about 3 pounds of Mountain Dew in his saddlebags!

Title: Re: Person Weight Limit?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/04/15 at 10:49:02

I knew water was heavier, but I had to no idea how much.
And the sensitivity to temperature, and how much the mass per gallon change s,
http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-2617.html

Title: Re: Person Weight Limit?
Post by Neilap on 06/04/15 at 11:33:41

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Oh definitely. trying to get the extra hours put in at work to spend the money on them. There are a few bumps\dips in my normal commute that knock the air out of me and cause me to lose eyesight at the moment of impact Lol. Is there a way to upgrade the front springs too?

Title: Re: Person Weight Limit?
Post by Serowbot on 06/04/15 at 11:43:24

The cheap way to stiffen the front a little,.. is to add about 1/2" thick spacer to the top of the fork springs...(that's about all I had the strength to squish in there and still get the caps back on)...

Secondly,... I do have 12" Intruder 800 shocks, but although they are taller, they are quite soft...
If the one's you got were the same, I think you'd bottom out even easier...
You might try some 11.5 to 12.5" Harley shocks (be aware many are over 13" and they would be too big)... (and you would have to sleeve the mount holes)...
Not sure if the 1400 Intruder uses a stiffer shock or not...

Title: Re: Person Weight Limit?
Post by verslagen1 on 06/04/15 at 12:14:11

progressive suspension has changed their site.
used to be they'd list the spring rate.
I got a pdf of their old catalog at home.
I'll try and remember (crs alert) to look it up.

You might look in the tech section at the "Fork Improvements for RYCA Café Conversions" for some insight.

Title: Re: Person Weight Limit?
Post by Flint on 06/04/15 at 23:00:08

I bought a brand new S40 a while back. I thought I would stick with OEM stuff so I got Suzuki saddle bag supports and saddle bags. One day I could hear an odd noise that would increase wih RPM.

After checking everything I noticed my belt guard was bent and slightly rubbing the rear pully, removed it, fixed it and carried on. A few days later the same thing.

The saddle bag support was slamming into the belt guard! I only weigh 150 pounds. I do drive a lot on back roads and goat trails in the mountains ect. but I do it slowly just plonking along.

A fellow does need more rear shock travel.

Title: Re: Person Weight Limit?
Post by Art Webb on 06/05/15 at 08:07:55

I guess you had some bad luck there, I have the stock bag supports and weigh over 200, and bottomed my suspension more than a couple times, never touched the belt gaurd though