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Message started by IrishSavage on 05/26/15 at 04:05:00

Title: Cam Chain - tensioner and assy.
Post by IrishSavage on 05/26/15 at 04:05:00

I had a look inside and found this. Before I change the parts, I was hoping to get some pointers as to why this might have happened. Anybody got any ideas?

Title: Re: Cam Chain - tensioner and assy.
Post by IrishSavage on 05/26/15 at 04:06:27

This was how it looked like when I first took off the cover

Title: Re: Cam Chain - tensioner and assy.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/26/15 at 04:17:52

How many miles?
Did you get it like that?
Did you get the spring or did parts get loose?
That's the problem we try to keep people from having.
The young fellow, thread about
Only tops out at 60
Or something, took a while but he finally believed us.
You got lucky, that is usually an engine fatality.
Well, maybe the jury is still out on that.

Title: Re: Cam Chain - tensioner and assy.
Post by Dave on 05/26/15 at 04:19:11

I went to some of your other posts and found out your bike has 32,000 kilometers......20,000 miles. Most likely your cam chain stretched enough that the tensioner was completely extended and and it just came apart.

You need to get the Verslagen......or get another tensionr and make one of your own (or replaced the cam chain with a new one).

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1180206459

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1191167029

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1176999168

Title: Re: Cam Chain - tensioner and assy.
Post by Serowbot on 05/26/15 at 06:40:42

If you can get a stock one there,.. you can have a machine shop do the verslagen mod...
It's just adding an extension with a second hole to the plunger (this will give you double the life for your chain)...
...and, adding the slot to the housing, and pinning the plunger into it.(this will make it impossible for the plunger to fall out again)...

If that's all the damage,.. you are lucky... We have seen then come loose and blow out the case..

Anybody here,.. going to Ireland any time soon?... :-/...

Title: Re: Cam Chain - tensioner and assy.
Post by verslagen1 on 05/26/15 at 08:10:41

Are you one of the two fellas in Munster?
If not, then I can tell you there's at 2 other Irish savages.

yes indeed, you are lucky that could of been a lot worse.

Title: Re: Cam Chain - tensioner and assy.
Post by IrishSavage on 05/26/15 at 11:28:11

Alright, so say if I wanted to pursue this verslavy mod, is there a way to determine how bad the cam chain is stretched. Thinking if my chain is too far stretched and I have to change it either way.

Not one of the two fellas in Munster :)

Title: Re: Cam Chain - tensioner and assy.
Post by Dave on 05/26/15 at 11:31:13

Yep.....it was in one of those links I provided for you to read.

574453524D4046444F10210 wrote:

Couldn't find the detailed sketch I know is in the SSM.
This picture shows new on top and a used chain on the bottom.
And he's measuring the stretch over about 14", not the required 21 pin measurement.
So, stretch out the chain like shown, and it would be good to stretch it a bit. One end on a nail, the other with a bungee cord, weight, whatever. count off 21 pins, measure from center to center, but left edge of the pin to left edge is the same.
127mm or 5" is brand new.
service limit is 128.9mm or 5.075"
While you got it in your hand, check for any stiff links.
I'd replace it if you have any.
http://www.ls-650.de/techfotos/steuerketten.jpg

http://www.ls-650.de/techfotos/steuerketten.jpg

Title: Re: Cam Chain - tensioner and assy.
Post by verslagen1 on 05/26/15 at 11:45:42

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1405375906/0#0

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1408361167/0#0

So... it wasn't a crank bearing after all?

Title: Re: Cam Chain - tensioner and assy.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/26/15 at 11:47:45

If I had it out id replace it noW
OR
Slap a Verslavy in, run it, and when it's time for a chain, slap a cam in,
Or do it now,you're all apart,, and check out the guides..

Title: Re: Cam Chain - tensioner and assy.
Post by gizzo on 05/26/15 at 13:45:53

Jeezus, look how that plunger is popped out but wedged in the edge of the hole ! So lucky it just bashed out a recess in the plunger housing instead of flicking all the way out. And it ran like that. Another bullet dodged.

Title: Re: Cam Chain - tensioner and assy.
Post by irishjake on 05/30/15 at 14:25:34

where abouts in Ireland are you? Not able to pm you, Verslagen has our contact details if you want

Title: Re: Cam Chain - tensioner and assy.
Post by verslagen1 on 05/30/15 at 15:13:57

I had to go thru all his posts to find out he's in norway.

Title: Re: Cam Chain - tensioner and assy.
Post by irishjake on 05/30/15 at 15:32:24

Ah must be more of us though. Thanks for looking

Title: Re: Cam Chain - tensioner and assy.
Post by IrishSavage on 06/01/15 at 07:03:07

Thanks for all the inputs. I've ordered the stock parts(chain tensioner plunger), figured since I've got it all open I might as well just change it out.

Again thanks!

Title: Re: Cam Chain - tensioner and assy.
Post by verslagen1 on 06/01/15 at 07:30:45

557B5B7776796D7F70612129180 wrote:

Thanks for all the inputs. I've ordered the stock parts(chain tensioner plunger), figured since I've got it all open I might as well just change it out.

Again thanks!

I hope you're replacing the chain too.