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Message started by botticelli on 05/03/15 at 11:53:10

Title: hardtail with 21's front an back
Post by botticelli on 05/03/15 at 11:53:10

Can anyone share any insight if 21 inch front and rear wheels would fit?
I am more asking for the front....

Pretty sure the voodoo vintage hardtail can fit one.

Would definitely make for a sweet hardtail....

Title: Re: hardtail with 21's front an back
Post by Serowbot on 05/03/15 at 11:54:34

21" rear?... never heard of such a thing... :-/...

Title: Re: hardtail with 21's front an back
Post by Demin on 05/03/15 at 14:58:24

Yeah.they're doing up to 23s on both ends.Flat track style.

If you want an easy swap...Put an Intruder 800 frontend on.Comes with a 21" wheel and bolts right on.

Title: Re: hardtail with 21's front an back
Post by botticelli on 05/03/15 at 15:19:13

Yeah I was quite inspired by a member here, Rpnshts, xs650 build.

http://www.xs650.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13931

he uses 21's front and rear.

Title: Re: hardtail with 21's front an back
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 05/03/15 at 19:06:09

An 18 just fits on the stock swing arm. Any bigger and you're looking at a custom swing arm.

Title: Re: hardtail with 21's front an back
Post by Art Webb on 05/03/15 at 20:25:24

and the 18 only with a tire that's not ambitiously sized

Title: Re: hardtail with 21's front an back
Post by KennyG on 05/03/15 at 20:45:45

Does a hard tail have a swing arm?

Title: Re: hardtail with 21's front an back
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/03/15 at 20:50:44

Nope, no rear suspension.

Title: Re: hardtail with 21's front an back
Post by Art Webb on 05/03/15 at 21:37:28

right, but is the hardtail based on the stock frame? if so, it may have the same limitations

Title: Re: hardtail with 21's front an back
Post by botticelli on 05/04/15 at 15:20:00

This would be with a voodo vintage or similar hardtail

I think it would all work out in the back.

The question is does a 21 inch wheel run the risk of hitting the bottom fork tree, during suspension actuation?

Title: Re: hardtail with 21's front an back
Post by HovisPresley on 05/04/15 at 16:13:30

Great blog about the XS650 build, very thorough, thanks for posting the link.
The difference between a 21" and a 19" front wheel is only 1", if it were measured between the spindle and the bottom yoke/fork tree, ie. the radius rather than the diameter of the wheel. I believe that if the forks were under maximum pressure (bottomed out) there would be at least a 1" gap between the two, so no worries there ;)

Title: Re: hardtail with 21's front an back
Post by old_rider on 05/04/15 at 17:31:36

I kinda like the idea of a smaller rear tire with a taller front tire making it lean to the rear and give a laid back ride without changing the angle of the tree. :)

But that's just me....

Title: Re: hardtail with 21's front an back
Post by FDM on 05/05/15 at 04:35:43

I have a VV hardtail currently installed and am in the process of having wheels built. I'm going for an 18"/21" set up. I will say based on my experience with this hardtail that if you put a 21" on the back it will come very far up in the frame and there won't be practical room for a usable cross member to mount a spring mounted type seat to. You would most likely have to engineer some type of seat mounted directly to the fender. Shouldn't be a problem as its a custom application and everything about it will require some adjusting/ customizing, Just keep in mind things are pretty tight in there.

Title: Re: hardtail with 21's front an back
Post by LS650THUMPER on 05/06/15 at 19:38:20

you can get longer forks, with out changing the tree !!! franks on line has them.