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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 04/25/15 at 14:36:58

Title: RC Stuff
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/25/15 at 14:36:58

Anyone fly RC?

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by gizzo on 04/25/15 at 16:54:49

Hell yes. If I could only have one hobby,passtime what have you,rc gliders would be it. Also done a bit of power flying,helis and quads (drones to you ).

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by dontwannapickle on 04/25/15 at 17:35:37

Not RC, but while teens my brothers and I used to fly u-control with .049 powered batwing planes. After we got good enough we flew combat. Put a ribbon of crepe paper on the back and stood side by side trying to cut the other brother's ribbon. Short ribbon lost. Had some very spectaculr collisions, too. Wish that stuff was still available.

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/25/15 at 18:03:34

Im pretty sure that you can still get UControl stuff. I have an Enya35, gas tank and handle, no wires, from 40years ago.
I'm not sure about what I want. I've flown an RC plane. I got good quick. Another radio accidentally,coff,coff, got turned on.. same frequency, even though I had a flag on the pole Showing I was on that frequency. Jealous rage, I was flying circles around the guy and he had been flying about 3 months, me, about a month..
I'm Thinking I want to try the helicopter. But the glider idea has triggered a thought... Since the decision making skills have changed, alarmingly, I either want to do what challenges and hopefully sharpens, maybe even , well, darn words are not coming, kinda therapy... I'm not comfortable driving in the last coupla months. So, maybe a glider is a good idea, but I think I need something more challenging.

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by verslagen1 on 04/25/15 at 18:16:40

6F7076716C6B5A6A5A62707C37050 wrote:

So, maybe a glider is a good idea, but I think I need something more challenging.

I don't know what's available to you in your local, but I like slope soaring.
With a good breeze you can stay up all day doing acrobatics that'll make even the power boys smile.
and on a calm day the challenge is to stay up on a breath of air looking for thermals, chasing hawks and whatever comes your way.

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by gizzo on 04/25/15 at 18:32:48

6F7076716C6B5A6A5A62707C37050 wrote:

So, maybe a glider is a good idea, but I think I need something more challenging.

The challenge is where you find it. I'm in same boat as versy. I love slope soaring, in big wind with heavy sleds doing massive half pipes and big aerobatics. The icing on the cake is dynamic soaring with the world speed record at over 500mph, just gliding and no power. It's great fun and a massive challenge flying a glider through rough air, 10' off the deck at 100's of MPH. Check RCSpeeds.com to know more. thermalling is great fun, discus launch and winch launch style and is a whole nother game to play.
as for CL, that stuffs all still available and Brodak is still in business. Good luck whatever you choose

Check this one. My favourite DS vid on youtube. This model is doing about 200, 250 mph and the noise isn't a jet engine, just the airframe making the noise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY41yVq88mc

And Daboz doing his record 505mph at the same hill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7gL9uA-McY

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/25/15 at 19:11:25

Ohh, that is cool. Ill hafta check out the hobby shop and see if there is any of that here. We don't see kites on sale in the Spring, like W. Texas does.

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/25/15 at 20:19:44

Im looking at discus launch gliders.

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by gizzo on 04/25/15 at 20:36:18

There's a pretty strong DLG scene in TX, so you could find some local crew to show you some models, how it works and the rest. Maybe they'll have an old beater they can sell you cheap to get you started. And DLG flyers are good people.
If you can find a copy of Lift Ticket, Directors Cut, it's worth watching. A bit dated now but still fun and a good insight into what makes glider flyers tick.

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/25/15 at 20:45:19

Thanks for all the help,guys. I never woulda guessed that I could get interested in something that doesn't even have a motor.

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/25/15 at 21:29:03

Hmm, look what I found,, it has a motor.
http://www.raidentech.com/4vedi4marfgi.html

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by gizzo on 04/25/15 at 22:17:02

D'ya know what? If you haven't flown in a while these things are not too bad:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__17227__Phoenix_2000_EPO_Composite_R_C_Glider_ARF_.html?strSearch=phoenix%202000

Cheap, ready to fly, really robust, fly well and did I mention cheap? Looks like a POS but you won't cry when it takes a dirt dive.

The big scale models are more of a commitment. They need to be flown well, don't tolerate mistakes (fragile) and can be a handful to manage. Most of those big cheap ones are made in China to pretty low standards, as well. They're known as "chinese eggshells" for a good reason.

Don't skimp on the radio, either. Get something that you can grow into, or you'll be forking out for an upgrade sooner or later, assuming you stick with the hobby.

As always, IMO, YMMV etc.

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/26/15 at 11:39:40

Phoenix looks like a great start up. I have a friend who is a lot like me, only still driving... I'm hoping he will get interested. Looks like a pretty inexpensive hobby,as most hobbies go.

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/26/15 at 17:29:01

I saw a video of a plane that had a camera on a carbon fiber tube taped to the wing. It stayed in place, through the wind and force of a loop.
I'm interested in such a small camera. Id like to be able to see what is on the place. I know we have deer, but being able to film , and if they can be aimed, then, wow, I could fly a slow pass and pan back and forth.
If I could get one that could communicate with the ground and I could see what it sees in real time, shazzam..

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by gizzo on 04/26/15 at 19:13:09

This:
https://www.mobius-actioncam.com/

Flying with a video feed back to LCD goggles or monitor screen is no problem, easily eachievable and not very expensive these days. Takes some good pioloting skills tho. It makes me feel motion sick when I've tried it. Can put it on fixed wing planes or quadcopters and can get 3 axis camera gimbals, image stabilisers, GPS autopilot and all kinds of cool stuff. Search FPV (First Person View) . check out what Team Black Sheep is up to these days.

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/26/15 at 19:28:10

Thank you very much. FPV,, just not knowing what to look for.. such neat stuff is available now.
Key fob cameras, ten bux, who knew?

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by arteacher on 04/27/15 at 15:12:41

I used to fly CL. My culminating project was a modified Nobler set up with three wires for throttle control. I still have a dusty old Flight Streak in the basement with an Enya .35 on it.

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/27/15 at 17:22:10

I flew a Buster,, smaller leading edge, lower profile wing. I did build a Flite StreaK for a.15 for the first plane. They are Tuff. I smashed and repaired it many times. One of the last.35 planes I built was a Streak,too, I built it with the trailing edges hinged and operated opposite direction of the elevators.
I liked slotting the fuselage and epoxying in a 1oz lead weight. Wingover, pop the last three fingers open, close, and the plane could be made to fly backwards for a coupla feet. Naturally not a good idea in slow combat.
Worked with the Buster, too.
I ran six gallons of fuel through the Enya before it needed a piston and sleeve. Man those were some times.

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by old_rider on 04/27/15 at 20:41:08

I had planned to purchase a quad copter this past summer with the intent to use it for filming for Television News, Surveyors and Realtors.
I see the need for them in the future, but now I will have to get a license to just fly one if it has a camera, and cannot sell any video I take.
It would prove to be a great business venture for me here in florida (filming advertisements for the area), but since I cannot sell said video, it might not be in my future, unless I hire on to the businesses for the time I take the video, but would not receive any proceeds from it.
FPV is also questionable now.... you have to have two people if one is wearing a full FPV setup (well goggles anyway).
One must see the actual "vehicle" and surrounding objects, other restrictions are left to the local laws....such as not flying over crowds, or flying dangerously close to buildings and vehicles.
Going to have to study the actual laws one would have to go by, as I am within a few miles of two air force bases and two airports.

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/28/15 at 05:20:01

Im in the boonies and on my own land..

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by arteacher on 04/29/15 at 05:51:19

I had a Buster too. Great plane. Most of my engines were Fox. Cheap to buy and nearly indestructible as long as you used castor oil as the lubricant.
(I love the smell of hot castor oil n the morning.) ;D
Dd you know that a lot of the engines n WWI aircraft used castor oil as the lubricant? Pilots would get it in the face as they flew and wound up with diarrhea- to the point that some wore diapers. :o

Title: Re: RC Stuff
Post by Dave on 04/29/15 at 06:18:13

2922222B2728293332460 wrote:

Dd you know that a lot of the engines n WWI aircraft used castor oil as the lubricant? Pilots would get it in the face as they flew and wound up with diarrhea- to the point that some wore diapers. :o

I went to a WWI flight weekend at the Wright Patterson Airforce base in Dayton, Ohio a few years ago. They had a few planes that used the original LeRhone rotary engines. The engine has an oil pump that mixes the oil with the fuel/are mix. The valve gear is exposed and the unburned castor oil that comes out the exhaust is a mist that lands on the exposed valve gear and keeps it lubricated. The engines have shrouding that is supposed to keep the exhaust and oil going under the plane, and when the plane lands the entire bottom of the plane is coated and dripping with oil. Some of the oil does make it's way to the top of the fuselage and to the pilot.