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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> New owner, few easy questions /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1429190825 Message started by Mr Schaefer Pants on 04/16/15 at 06:27:04 |
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Title: New owner, few easy questions Post by Mr Schaefer Pants on 04/16/15 at 06:27:04 Bought my wife a 'new' S40. Its a 2013, but factory new. One, do they not want you to touch the battery, like ever? Holy cow that thing is a pain to get to. So, I wanna put some "battery tender" standard two pin cable hook ups on it for easy charging. But I plan on getting the kit that I can just hook up to my regular charger (as read in the newb section). How much room is there for the cable and routing in that tiny compartment? Guess I should just search the forum for pics for tips and tricks and routing/installing ideas. Two, windshield. So my buddy has a quick disconnect windshield that while holding it up, looks like it'll fit the S40, around the headlight, forks, the width of the forks, the diameter of the forks. The only thing stopping it is the top to bottom distance because of the turn signals. Now those brackets look super beefy just to hold the signals on. And since factory, they're located directly on top of the brace, do they serve another purpose? My buddy said just move them up so the windshield can go on, but I'm like no.... I'll research it first. I've attached a pic. I'd love to use the windshield if I can, its free. And there was a third... but I can't remember. |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by Serowbot on 04/16/15 at 06:39:28 There is room for a pigtail in the battery box... (if you are going to use it as a power source at any time, get a fused one)... I connected mine, under the seat,...hot at the starter solenoid, negative to battery. The signal brackets are beefy, but they do nothing, other than hold the signals... so slide'em wherever they need to be... Welcome to the SS.com... ;)... |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by Dave on 04/16/15 at 09:08:22 There is a small pin/bump on the bottom of the turn signals brackets that goes into a hole in the bottom yoke....it keeps the turn signals aligned. However the turn signal bracket is beefy and won't slide around - you just have to align them by eye when you move them. |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by Bubba on 04/16/15 at 09:09:49 I go my battery tender at wally world...the pig tail attached to both terminals and I just route it so it peeks out from the right side of the seat...works great! |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by Mr Schaefer Pants on 04/16/15 at 12:22:18 Ya I've been looking at battery cables online. Figuring I'll get a fused one of course, then a 2nd, fused or not, just to hook that up to my battery charger for both bikes as the in between wire to hook to the charger's alligator clips. (Still haven't gotten a cable for mine yet). I haven't priced new windshields yet, not really. One on amazon for $140. But free is free. I'll give it a whirl, there was some very slight differences with the direction the quick disconnect mounts facing the forks, but probably just need to loosen where it connects to the windshield, clamp it, then tighten the bolts back up. |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by stinger on 04/16/15 at 12:29:19 I drilled a small hole in the top of the chrome tool cover and ran a thick guaged wire to the positive side of the battery and up thru the tool cover a inch. Capped it off with a plastic electrical insulator. Now when I charge the battery I just hook my positive lead to the wire and the negative cable from the charger to the rear axle bolt. Makes it easy if you need a jump also. |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by Mr Schaefer Pants on 04/17/15 at 05:07:49 Went ahead and did it last night. There was enough room in the chrome tool cover area to keep the extra wire and fuse part, rest is zip tied up and easily tucks under in between the front of the seat and rear of the tank. One thing I noticed this little battery doesn't appreciate a 3a charge. Instead of a 2/10a charger mine does 3/15. I heard it bubbling after only a few minutes of 3a, so I turned it off, let it cool, then started it back up again. Also had an oopsy cause the fuse it came with was a 7.5, so when the charger blips on it'll shoot 15a before you can click the button to change it to 3. So I stuck a 20a in there. Still wouldn't be able to jump off of the tiny wire though. I don't recall seeing any markings on what gauge wire and what it can handle. But then again its a tiny battery, with a tiny starter, and a tiny motor. Coming from diesels its a little flip flopped for me ;) |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by Dave on 04/17/15 at 05:12:53 Yep, 2 amps is the most they recommend for motorcycle batteries. Tenders or Trickle Chargers that are 1/2 amp are ideal sizes...the slower you charge the better the battery likes it. You really shouldn't have to be charging your battery if you ride regularly, a Tender can be used when your bike will not be used for a couple of weeks. I only place the tenders on when winter arrives. |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by Mr Schaefer Pants on 04/20/15 at 20:59:54 Ya I may have to go out and buy another charger for the bikes. Only worried about charging the S40 this one time. Its my wife's and she's a new rider. So lots of starting/stopping, and stalling. And occasional leaving the key in the on position these past few weeks. Coupled with very short rides. So I just wanted to 'top it off', and it did need it a bit. She's past that now and we've gone on some longer rides. As per my other question, ended up just getting a OEM shield through Amazon. Now looking up one of the viking bags, but I think I need to find a rear turn signal relocation kit. So it begins.... |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/20/15 at 21:50:57 Waaah, waaaah, waaaah, cry me a river.... You're married to a woman who wants to ride a motorcycle AND you live in Hot Springs, Are flippin Kansas.... dude, suffer thru it... That's about my favorite vacation spot and ohhh what a pretty place to ride.. youll survive the Savage battery... just keep swinging.. |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by Steve H on 04/21/15 at 02:09:16 Watch leaving the key on for long periods of time without the engine running. It has a tendency to kill the ignition box. |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by Mr Schaefer Pants on 04/21/15 at 09:34:52 3D267F7C7D7A78774E0 wrote:
That sucks, but good to know. But I think she's over that hump now, along with the 2 position choke ;D I think Justin blew up the small joke about the battery ;) But he's right, the riding here is pretty doggone awesome. |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by Dave on 04/21/15 at 09:41:04 427D5C6C676E6A696A7D5F6E617B7C0F0 wrote:
Just be glad you didn't spell anything wrong....it could have been worse! |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by Mr Schaefer Pants on 04/21/15 at 10:28:04 4C777A6D7C706B6D767E736C1F0 wrote:
Oh so you're saying I got off easy, got cha ;D |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by Steve H on 04/21/15 at 16:28:52 I have been known to be a spelling and grammar nazi too. I have just restrained myself when seeing some of the stuff posted on here. I do still make errors but I try to do better. |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by Dave on 04/22/15 at 04:43:36 I just got an email that the Yuasa charger is on sale as a "close out". Might be a good charger to own if you need one. It can float charge and also can treat sulfated batteries. http://www.bikebandit.com/manuals-tools/motorcycle-tools/battery-chargers-accessories/yuasa-6-12-volt-1-5-amp-5-stage-motorcycle-battery-charger?roi=echo3-26229526614-27270556-303bfc7a49c4dcb3c700d2771265c9b2&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=promo_daily-deals&utm_source=Wed_042215_DailyDeal_OnRoad&utm_content=Yuasa_6/12_Volt_1.5_Amp_5_Stage_Motorcycle_Battery_Charger |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by Mr Schaefer Pants on 04/22/15 at 06:10:46 172C2136272B30362D252837440 wrote:
That's a good system, mine has all the same features minus the desulfating, but of course, is 3a minimum. I may get a tender/minder type set up. Browsing the 'things ever newb should know' thread, seems the reasoning for straying from a 'battery tender' was its ouput voltage being only 12.1v. Maybe that info was based on older products. But the new stuff does practically everything, computer controlled, charges up to 14v depending on charging/floating, desulfates. All in a tiny package with the standard 2pin connector (or clips). Could mount that to the wall where the bikes are, instead of having another bigger charger taking up room. http://www.batterystuff.com/battery-chargers/12-volt/0-4amps/bm1510.html Might be an expense for later on in the year. It shouldn't be a big deal where I live, its mild winter weather here, can practically ride all year long. Even Jan-Feb there's spuratic 65+ degree days. There's really no 'storing' the bike here. |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by Dave on 04/22/15 at 06:15:04 The only thing I don't like about these fancy "smart" chargers....is that if the voltage of the battery falls very low...for some reason the charger interprets that the same as a battery that is fully charged. The new smart chargers will not charge a dead battery....only one that is low but not dead. I have a plain old "dumb" charger that I use on dead batteries. |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by savage_skulls_ on 04/25/15 at 10:40:17 Just wanted to chime in. Been having some charging issues with mine. Browsing through the forum before asking anything though. I live in hot springs too! Don't get enough time to enjoy the rides between work and kids but love it when I do. I manage a motel here in town so when you guys come to vacation shout at me and I'll give you the savage discount :-p. We will all have to get together if some of you guys come for a mini savage rally.lol |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by Dave on 04/26/15 at 03:45:22 7F6D7A6D6B6964787F0C0 wrote:
Update your personal information so "Hot Spring shows up when you post....it helps us all to find other riders nearby! ;) |
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Title: Re: New owner, few easy questions Post by savage_skulls_ on 04/30/15 at 09:32:12 Got er did. Thanks Dave. I didn't know I could even do that :-p. Still learning about the forum and the bike! Love them both though |
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