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Message started by T.Claiborne13 on 04/15/15 at 20:30:29

Title: Opinion on clutchless up shifting?
Post by T.Claiborne13 on 04/15/15 at 20:30:29

what is your opinion on clutch-less up shifting on the savage? I have done it a couple of times with no problem but always like to hear other people's input on things

Title: Re: Opinion on clutchless up shifting?
Post by Serowbot on 04/15/15 at 21:51:31

I did it all the time on my dirt bikes...
I may do it on my Savage a lot of times,... I pull so little for upshifts...
I pay so little attention anymore...

If you feel that it goes smoothly,.. it's fine...
If it feels like you are hammering it into gear... quit it... ;D...

Title: Re: Opinion on clutchless up shifting?
Post by Rylee on 04/15/15 at 22:01:45

Mines hit or miss. 2nd to 3rd is usually a clunk shift with no clutch. 3rd to 4th and 4th to 5th go a little smoother. I have gotten use to the 4th to 5th clutch less on the rare occasion I use 5th because it cuts down on the phantom neutral issue between the gears. I don't think at the lower gears I'm getting off the throttle enough for it to be more smooth.

My triumph I didn't use the clutch past 2nd gear but I had a jockey shift and it was an easy tap forward on the rod. I could even downshift clutch less for the same reason, easy pull back to me.

Title: Re: Opinion on clutchless up shifting?
Post by gizzo on 04/16/15 at 00:49:28

What they said^. If it feels smooth, do it. You won't hurt anything. If it feels clunky, stop doing it. Or get better at it. Works for me on some bikes but not on others.

Title: Re: Opinion on clutchless up shifting?
Post by Dave on 04/16/15 at 03:36:48

If you can shift as smoothly without the clutch as you do with the clutch - then it won't hurt anything. If you are getting "clunk" and it is not smooth...then you are better off using the clutch as you are putting stress on the transmission, drive belt and rubber cushion in the rear hub.

My Savage doesn't like clutchless shifting. The engine mods I have done (high compression piston, cam, carb, exhaust, etc.) make it so the engine has a lot of compression braking and acceleration - it is hard to position the throttle between shifts so the load on the drive train is small enough to allow a smooth shift without the clutch. So...I always use the clutch on this bike.

Title: Re: Opinion on clutchless up shifting?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/16/15 at 12:04:17

Slap the throttle shut, the driving gears stop pushing on the driven gear, change gears,, that jump between 2nd and first is just too big.
Practice between fourth and fifth , up and down,

Title: Re: Opinion on clutchless up shifting?
Post by botticelli on 04/20/15 at 08:02:36

I use the clutch all the time, every time.

I ride a few different bikes and don't want to make habits on one that wont fly on another. For example, my Honda has an assisted hydraulic slipper clutch that will make you forget the clutch lever is even there.

My vote, on a bike like the savage, use the clutch.