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Message started by T.Claiborne13 on 04/03/15 at 11:38:52

Title: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by T.Claiborne13 on 04/03/15 at 11:38:52

Well I messed up I left my petcock on for about a day. I didn't know and drove it to where I keep at my aunts about 150 yards away. What should I check to make sure nothing is screwed up. I took the airfilter out and going to change the oil. anything else I need to do?

Title: Re: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by T.Claiborne13 on 04/03/15 at 11:39:53

another pic

Title: Re: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/03/15 at 11:52:01

For some reason,the carb float valve didn't stop the fuel flow. Y need to find out why.
I'd probably dump the oil, because it is cheap.
I wouldn't start it till I was comfortable that gas had not gotten to the oil.
If that's a K AND N , you Know how to do that, but I kept a stock filter handy, so I could ride when the K AND N was drying.

Title: Re: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by T.Claiborne13 on 04/03/15 at 15:48:20

Dang I was kinda of afraid of that but the carb has been working great. I did notice my throttle has been a little loose. could the throttle not closing all the way let this happen as well?

Title: Re: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by Art Webb on 04/03/15 at 17:37:49

might judt be a bit of grit in the needle and seat, it happens
I hardly ever turn my petcock off, I really should

Title: Re: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 04/04/15 at 03:35:42

I wouldn't woory about changing the oil. With the Rapter valve there is no path for fuel to flood the cylinder. Looks like you have a stuck float. It could clear itself from the vibration of a started engine. Keep an eye on it before tearing it all apart.

Title: Re: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by youzguyz on 04/04/15 at 05:20:45

22282C262D242029777175450 wrote:

If you say so.. but I say at least check the oil level. If it is HIGH, then you may have gas in the crankcase. And open the fill and get a good whiff of it too. If you smell gasoline, I would change it.
Why do I say this? I have a raptor petcock. I had the float seat o-ring fail. I had a bunch of gas in the airbox AND in the crank case. I got lucky and got it all out before it caused any damage.

Title: Re: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 04/04/15 at 05:49:33

If the fuel is coming from the bowl vent, then the fuel isn't making it to the body of the carb. If the fuel is coming from the air box went then it has made its way into the body of the carb.

Title: Re: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by T.Claiborne13 on 04/04/15 at 09:37:44

ok. I drained the oil and their was a hint of gas smell.I put about 3 1/2 quarts of rotella oil but none of it drained out. How can I flush the oil? do i just need to keep adding more oil till it comes out the drain port. their was also still a little bit of gas at the bottom of the filter box.

Title: Re: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by Serowbot on 04/04/15 at 09:43:37

3 1/2 quarts is way too much... :o...
2.2 quarts for an oil change...

Drain it all out, and start over...

Title: Re: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by verslagen1 on 04/04/15 at 09:50:56

1D0A0A262B3B28787A490 wrote:

you got the wrong drain port buddy.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2NU0p82vl5Y/SPsng3IbbrI/AAAAAAAAAHU/pJi57E6SMvY/s400/PA190003.jpg
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Title: Re: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 04/04/15 at 10:08:25

5B4C4C606D7D6E3E3C0F0 wrote:

I put about 3 1/2 quarts of rotella oil but none of it drained out. How can I flush the oil? do i just need to keep adding more oil till it comes out the drain port.

If you put any more in it will be coming out the exhaust :)

Title: Re: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by T.Claiborne13 on 04/04/15 at 10:33:40

2E3D2A2B34393F3D3669580 wrote:

[quote author=1D0A0A262B3B28787A490 link=1428086333/0#8 date=1428165464]ok. I drained the oil and their was a hint of gas smell.I put about 3 1/2 quarts of rotella oil but none of it drained out. How can I flush the oil? do i just need to keep adding more oil till it comes out the drain port. their was also still a little bit of gas at the bottom of the filter box.

you got the wrong drain port buddy.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2NU0p82vl5Y/SPsng3IbbrI
/AAAAAAAAAHU/pJi57E6SMvY/s400/PA190003.jpg
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1099572561[/quote]

Well I guess I know why I'm no motorcycle mechanic, I'll stick to airplanes. :( but at least the guys at the airport monday will have a good laugh

Title: Re: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by WD on 04/05/15 at 10:46:04

You didn't hurt anything with the overfilling. Just drain it out and put 2 quarts back in. That stock air filter is most likely ruined, so buy another one before you ride it again. I usually order 4 oil filters and 2 air filters at a time from the internet to make the shipping worthwhile, as nobody local carries them regularly. I could buy the o.e.m. Suzuki filters, but, why pay dealership prices for repackaged Emgo filters?

When I was working the bike shop in WA, ALL the local dealers would buy Emgo filters from us for their service bays. They would keep empty factory packages around, stuff an Emgo unit in them, and sell them for a $5-10 per unit markup. Emgo makes most of the factory filters anyway, so, if you pay factory authorized prices, you are paying for a name on a piece of cardboard. Savage filter from Emgo runs $3.95-5.95 oil, $12.95 air...

Title: Re: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by Art Webb on 04/05/15 at 12:17:16

interesting to know, WD, thanks

Title: Re: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by Oldfeller on 04/05/15 at 15:11:59

...... and that is why we call them stealerships ......

Title: Re: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by gizzo on 04/05/15 at 20:42:53

+1 to what youzguyz said about the o ring: The float needle can leak but so can the o ring that seals the brass seat insert. I've had it happen more than once myself. It just perishes and splits over time, lets fuel leak past.

Title: Re: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by T.Claiborne13 on 04/07/15 at 17:51:44

thank you for the info on the filters

Title: Re: Left raptor petcock on for a day
Post by T.Claiborne13 on 04/08/15 at 22:04:21

Is their anything that I should watch for the next couple of rides? to make sure everything is good. I am confident I got all the gas from the air box and oil.