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Message started by gizzo on 03/23/15 at 03:46:27

Title: Savage is back in Australia
Post by gizzo on 03/23/15 at 03:46:27

Just saw in the local motorcycle press that the S40 has been re- released here in Australia. It was originally only offered for 2 years I think, 86 & 87 so they're rare as rocking horse poop. Now available new again, and only $7990 ride away. I wonder how they'll go this time around. But is good news because I guess I'll be able to get parts easily (at dealer prices Boo hiss) and won't be long before some noob trowels his or hers and I can buy the wreck at auction for the spare engine, or donor for my Enfield CGT.

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by savskad on 03/23/15 at 08:54:19

Woo Hoo! You must be excited  :)

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by jcstokes on 03/23/15 at 11:31:09

About $NZ 8500 ride away here which would equate to about $AUD 8160 given the $NZ/AUD exchange rate. Anyway ride yours regularly near dealerships and thus propagate the race.

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by Kris01 on 03/23/15 at 18:40:26

Get the dealership to sponsor you and get free parts!  ;D

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by gizzo on 03/23/15 at 23:12:47

Haha good one Kris  ;D. did you know the best way to get a free drink out of a motorcycle dealer is to stick your finger down his throat? I'm lucky to have this old guy in my town who's business is buying up old Suzuki inventories and reselling. He's a Go To man for vintage Suzuki stuff, worldwide, and 20 min from my house. Been keeping my old DR alive for years. He's pretty helpful with parts for the Cabbage and way less expensive than the dealers. It's nice that the Savage is back, anyway. I guess Suzy want to cash in on the retro thing same as Kwak and Yamaha. Good on them. Kwaka's W800 is doing well over here. I see a few around. On the down side, I guess any value, real or imagined, of my old '86 has just evaporated. Never mind.....

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by jcstokes on 03/24/15 at 01:59:24

Go to the much maligned dealership/stealership and buy a new one.

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by jcstokes on 03/24/15 at 02:04:16

Interesting W800 $NZ1000 TO $NZ2000 cheaper than Yamaha Bolt.

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by LANCER on 04/03/15 at 16:56:23

Why don't we have the W800 here ?

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by jcstokes on 04/03/15 at 17:21:38

Don't know Lancer, if it's still carburettor. Maybe it may have to do with some of your emissions things. Maybe Kawasaki thinks it mightn't like ethanol mix fuel. Maybe they don't see a US market despite the fact that RE's are selling there. Maybe they want to push their other models such as Vulcan's.

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by Art Webb on 04/03/15 at 17:29:10

I'd say either due to the failure in this market of the w650 or the desire to sell more croozers

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by jcstokes on 04/03/15 at 23:52:41

Interesting Art Webb, was the W650 too small for your super slab?

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by Art Webb on 04/04/15 at 09:49:39

I think it was just mis-timed, although America does suffer from 'bigger is better' syndrome
a few years later on the intro, it likely would have fared better
the W800 would probably do well here now, IF they didn't overprice it like Honda has the CB1100 (c'mon Honda, 10 friggin GRAND for a retro UJM? GTFO)

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/04/15 at 09:59:26

The price of the Ws IS high. Look at design and build quality.

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by Art Webb on 04/04/15 at 10:18:58

then that would work against it, in a market that favors cruisers and sportbikes over UJMs already

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/04/15 at 11:43:35

Take some time, check out the engineering, no cam chain, bucket/shim valve adjustment. Change oil, adjust chain, ride,, except for the chain drive it's as maintenance free as any I'm aware of. Had I known they existed I would never have bought the Savage or the Guzzi.

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by Art Webb on 04/04/15 at 16:37:14

wait, no valve adjustment? I thought only hurleys and V stars had hydraulic valve lash adjusters

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/04/15 at 16:45:10

Yeah, gotta adjust them, but not as often. Check out the design..

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by Art Webb on 04/04/15 at 17:00:43

kinda hard to do google gives me nothing
shim under bucket or shim over bucket? shim over is easier to adjust, shim under holds adjustment fairly well, but the do have to be adjusted, eventually, and it's a PITA when you have to actually adjust them

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/04/15 at 17:58:32

PITA, ill give you that one. I think it's just another learning curve. Once done a few times, it's cake.

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by Art Webb on 04/04/15 at 19:49:50

pulling the cam is cake? must be a different design from the last shim under sportbike I worked on lol
otoh, at least it gets all the stuff in your way, out of your way :)

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/04/15 at 20:20:40

I don't remember pulling the cam. Been years,, memory

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by Art Webb on 04/04/15 at 20:31:33

musta been shim over bucket then, there's a tool to depress the bucket and you change the shim
not as long lasting an adjustment as shim under bucket, but fairly easy, I learned to do it on an old GS850 (2 valve per cylinder model, 1982 IIRC)

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by WD on 04/05/15 at 00:54:10

Bucket and shim is why I no longer own a Kawasaki. I like Savage valve adjusters, set them once after break in and forget about them. In 12 years of beating the tar out of my 1998  model Savage, it NEVER went out of spec, even with the engine so hot it was glowing... wide open throttle from Long Beach MS to Destin FL, in the middle of summer... pipe turned black.  8-)

Title: Re: Savage is back in Australia
Post by Art Webb on 04/05/15 at 08:34:14

Yeah I like the '34 Chevy style valve adjusters on the S40, too, when I can reach them
Suzuki made them very hard to get at with a feeler though, with those tiny, badly shaped access panels
My Ninja 500 had the exact same type of adjusters, more easily accessed (once you got all the fool bodywork off)

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