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Title: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then flees Post by RatdogWillie on 03/22/15 at 10:41:47 Cop chases and tries to sideswipe motorcycle, then turns off lights and tries to flee from person recording him http://xrepublic.tv/node/12638 |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,th Post by Dave on 03/23/15 at 02:37:12 Doesn't look like he tried to "sideswipe" anybody to me. It looked like he tried to get the biker to stop by moving over toward the wall and blocking his route of escape....evidently the biker wasn't going to stop for the Blue Lights and Siren like he should have. I have no respect for the reckless sport bike crowd and their traffic laws don't apply to me attitude. And why would a fellow in a car blow his horn at an Officer with his Blue Lights and siren on....while is was in the process of trying to pull the motorcycle over? |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f Post by savskad on 03/23/15 at 06:30:22 A little bit more... http://lanesplitter.jalopnik.com/cop-hits-motorcycle-then-tries-to-flee-1692834780 http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/local/2015/03/20/youtube-video-leads-to-fhp-review-of-motorcyclist-incident/25116643/ He apparently ran a toll road and didn't want to pay the toll. Personally, I think the most "safe" thing the officer could have done would be to collect the information off the license plate and pursue him that way. The biker speeding off and weaving in and out of traffic to try to outrun the cop would endanger more innocent people. Just let it go, don't try to take the guy down with your car. If he had been doing a drive by shooting or something, that would be different. But a $2 toll isn't worth risking a life. Criminal or not. This is just my opinion. |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/23/15 at 06:38:43 Agreed |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,th Post by atomikchicken on 03/23/15 at 07:05:58 The officer could be one of many working a failure to yield call. 1) If we stop pursuing every criminal then we must stop pursuing any criminal. Ask any lawyer. 2) If the biker will break this law what others has she broken? 3) Is the bike stolen or the driver impaired? 4) Is the biker fleeing the scene of a crime? These a just a few questions going through an officers mind. While doing a night in dispatch I sent an officer to a simple loitering call. He apprehend a wanted child rapist who is now incarcerated. Loitering is a 25 dollar fine that a homeless guy will never pay. Why even go? Because once we start choosing which laws to enforce we will also choose which ones we punish. So now it is permissible to commit a crime in order to record a perceived crime? Then I do not want to hear about being cut off by a distracted driver anymore. |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,th Post by RatdogWillie on 03/23/15 at 07:17:20 I am left wondering why the officer did not stop the driver that was following and filming, if he..... the officer, did nothing wrong. |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,th Post by atomikchicken on 03/23/15 at 07:37:53 What makes you think the officer knew he was being recorded? Why don't ambulance drivers stop and get the plate number of the car not moving over? Priorities that is why. Why did the biker not stop when the officer pushed him out of his lane? Because he is an innocent victim? We will never know because your innocent biker fled the scene. |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f Post by RatdogWillie on 03/23/15 at 07:50:23 1F2C3929222A1A24212124284D0 wrote:
The officer may not have known that he was being recorded, but he would have known that he was being followed and followed while he was in pursuit with his emergency lights on, and maybe a siren. Was the officer justified in the unsafe pushing the biker out of his lane? Is that acceptable to you for a traffic ticket offense? I can see doing that had the biker shot at someone, but not for avoiding a toll.[/quote] |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f Post by old_rider on 03/23/15 at 07:58:55 Looks to me like they were having the "pull it over" discussion and the biker squeaked through and ran off. The officer then turned off his lights and attempted to follow but lost the biker, but got his tag number. So the officer wasn't "running" from the car filming it. Don't ya just love the "other side of the story" stuff on the net? when they hack the film to show one side of the event? The biker ran a toll and was speeding, then slowed way below the speed limit endangering other drivers .... got caught .... just pull the hell over and take the ticket... responsibility, were the hell is it now days? If ya ain't got the dime, or don't want to do time, then why do the crime? |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f Post by oldNslow on 03/23/15 at 08:14:42 Ratdog.. wrote: Quote:
I think that's the important issue here. Are cops allowed to run folks off the road or into a concrete lane divider and possibly injure or even kill them for a traffic violation? It's hard for me to understand why anyone would think that's ok regardless of what the initial offense was. Based on what I saw in the video this particular cop is an a**hole. |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f Post by atomikchicken on 03/23/15 at 08:16:24 How do you know it was only a traffic offense? The person filming this even offers a name for the officer. Sounds like this guy filming has an agenda. If the rule of law is such a problem may I suggest a place such as Afghanistan. I lived and drive the roads for two deployments. No need to worry about petty traffic laws there. I can suggest several other location that would work from sunny locals around our globe. |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f Post by atomikchicken on 03/23/15 at 08:26:26 What you saw in the video is the problem. You make your judgement on a clip from the internet. One piece of evidence. This is why I am now in the Army and not helping crime victims. Too many people want to defend the criminal. So regardless of the offense. I would like to hear you tell that to the parents of a child that is dead after a hit and run. And hit and run is a minor traffic violation. Until you kill someone. |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f Post by MnSpring on 03/23/15 at 08:26:48 Watching the Vid, my take: Ray Charles, could see, this biker, Was Pulled over. And the cop wasn't 'fleeing'. He was LHAO, because he Had the Lic, and the kid now just got him/her in MORE, hot water than he was before by fleeing. And I did not see the Cop trying to, 'down' this MC. (Which would have been so easy to do) Only to 'cut it off', It was the MC, who probably scraped paint on the Cop car and barrier, to get away. Quote:
Gee, maybe, someone told this person, he/she was special, and did not have to live by the laws, everyone else does! Lotta respect, for, 'Good' Cops. Bad ones, (which are getting to be more and more), can Kiss my Azz. I don't know what the cop said, but from the video, the Cop, didn't look like a, 'Bad' one. He, (after he certainly had the info), stopped chasing. And I think, that MC rider, will have a surprise, waiting for him/her, at some point. |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,th Post by RatdogWillie on 03/23/15 at 08:31:05 If I had been the biker, I would have pulled over with the police lights came on. If I had been the police officer, I would have not have tried to side swipe the biker. I would have radioed for assistance and hung back. I would have tried to read the license plate is safe to do so and met with the biker at his home address. I would have my dashcam video to back me up. If I had been the camera operator, I would have filmed the unsafe actions of the police officer. |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f Post by old_rider on 03/23/15 at 08:40:42 So how do you prove the rider was the owner of the motorcycle? Why did he/she run the toll? Why was he/she speeding? Why was he/she acting erratic in traffic by slowing down below safe limits? Did you read the other link provided? How do you stop a motorcycle safely? They pit move 4 wheel vehicles... how do you suggest they do it on a motorcycle? They can't do the strip stopper on a motorcycle either. What the heck was the officer supposed to do? read the riders mind to find out why he/she was driving that way? Officers cannot safely follow a motorcyclist in traffic and the riders know this, so pray tell.... what would you do that could PROVE the rider was the owner? so that justice could be served to the RIGHT person? After this, i'll stop commenting so the post can be moved to the OTHER forum :) |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f Post by atomikchicken on 03/23/15 at 08:45:01 How is it that you know it was a traffic violation? Of course we should not consider the recent faked police raceism video. Surely this could not be one of those. Hey it was on the internet it must be true. And since I am urinating in cerial. I hope you and I can agree justin on this. I will vacate your beloved tejas the vary moment my time at Hood is over. The last time I was there another crime was committed that I am am sure you and rat will defend as work place violence commuted by a miss understood Muslim convert. And yes I have orders and documents with the DTG stamped from that building on that day. |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,th Post by verslagen1 on 03/23/15 at 08:50:14 4E5B404246444C47464C444A412F0 wrote:
Hit and runs are a felony offense. With the many illegals here, it's common practice. Even if the car is disabled and the guy has to limp away dragging his broken leg. The problem is so bad they decided it's better to give them licenses and stop inquiring if they are legal. In this situation, and as rampant as violations are, just video the offense and mail the ticket. If the owner wasn't the operator at the time, too bad. |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f Post by RatdogWillie on 03/23/15 at 08:53:27 Lots of good questions..... as a biker, my first reaction was shock that the cop put the biker in danger. I was relieved that the cop backed off, and i would hope he had dash cam video to enforce whatever law was broken in a future safe manner. If bike had been stolen, crashing it and harming the thief doesn't seem like a good option to me. As I said before, if I witnessed this from behind, I would have filmed it. I may not know if the cop is a good cop or a bad cop. I may not know what inspired the pursuit. But I would know that if the cop was endangering the biker, it was worthy of filming. |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f Post by atomikchicken on 03/23/15 at 08:54:38 If rat were an officer. I would be a very successful criminal. |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,th Post by atomikchicken on 03/23/15 at 08:57:47 And I bet the biker runs energy saving oil. Now that I am all worked up I am going to take a ride on a twisted road and I assure you, if I see lights I will pull over. Rat I disagree with you. However if you were on fire I would pee on you to help you out. No disrespect intended. Atomikchicken out. |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f Post by savskad on 03/23/15 at 09:01:36 Might need to move this thread to the "tall table". lol |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f Post by RatdogWillie on 03/23/15 at 09:03:13 2B3E2527232129222329212F244A0 wrote:
Your statement displays pompous impertinent presumptuous and arrogance. Just what justifies such a personally insulting attack? >:( |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,th Post by atomikchicken on 03/23/15 at 09:15:27 6D5E4B5B505868565353565A3F0 wrote:
Your statement displays pompous impertinent presumptuous and arrogance. Just what justifies such a personally insulting attack? [/quote] I made a presumptive estimate of my criminal success due to your stated law enforcement policy. Please do not forget sticks and stones..... If you are truly wrapped around the axel due to my words may I suggest a ride as therapy. |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f Post by savskad on 03/23/15 at 09:22:06 Per "10 News" : "FHP policy provides specific guidelines to pursuing motorcycles to ensure public safety, which is why Ross disengaged when the motorcyclist fled from the scene." http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/local/2015/03/20/youtube-video-leads-to-fhp-review-of-motorcyclist-incident/25116643/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's not about letting criminals get away with it, it's about the fact you're on a busy highway, do really want some jackass cutting off other drivers then potentially end up causing a massive car pile up with possible fatalities. Then when the officer ends up in court over the pile up and makes the remark, "Well, if I let one of 'em go, I gotta start letting them all go! And I couldn't have that now, could I?" I'm sure every lawyer will agree with him and he'll be let free to go with no consequences. ----------------------------------------------------------- Here in Austin I've heard an officer once say, "I don't ever try to chase a bike, because you can blink, and they'll be gone". It would be horrible to cause damage and danger over a toll road fee. Look up the license plate, pursue the owner, if it wasn't them operating, tough sh*t. It's your bike, your responsibility. Once again, this is just my personal opinion. I don't expect any of y'all to bend over backwards to change your beliefs, just please see that there are more than just one ways to look at a situation. |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,th Post by atomikchicken on 03/23/15 at 09:35:36 Since you accuse me of insulting speech. If you spent less time in a cage running amsoil and more time riding you would have less time to indulge your voyeristic tendencies with a camera. I do not own a cage. My car is a motorcycle. I would respond more quickly to you but I spend very little time typing and even less typing on my phone. I do however average 20,000 miles a year on my bike. And that is with TDY/deployments time all over the world. So my opinion on matters such as video exploits and law enforcement policies should be taken with a grain of Iraqi sand. Amsoil on the other hand believe me. I again will attempt to disengage. My career choice and length if service are indicators of my type A personality. A good argument is just so irresistible. I hope you have pleasant and enlightening day. Out. I hate smiley faces. I have typed all of this with a grinn though. |
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Title: Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f Post by verslagen1 on 03/23/15 at 10:07:44 enough already |
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