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Message started by Serowbot on 03/21/15 at 09:20:55

Title: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by Serowbot on 03/21/15 at 09:20:55

Looks like a grown-up Ruckus...
FUGLY!!!... :-?...
... or is it just me?... :-/...
http://world.honda.com/news/2015/2150320New-Concept-Model-BULLDOG/photo/pages/01.html
http://world.honda.com/news/2015/2150320New-Concept-Model-BULLDOG/photo/images/02.jpg

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldof" concept bike...
Post by verslagen1 on 03/21/15 at 09:25:43

very refined zombie bike, just needs a few holsters for machetes and rifles.  mabby a machine gun mount up front

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/21/15 at 10:23:40

Seat is a little high for the legs I have. Weight? Dunno.
Six speed, like that. Looks rugged and it IS a Honda...
Pretty? No, but I can be attracted to things because they are well engineered and serve a purpose and perform well. That thing needs to be Really Really good, cuz it ain't no kinda good looking.

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by MMRanch on 03/21/15 at 13:08:23

Lego ?

;D

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike..
Post by Dave on 03/21/15 at 14:02:48

Scuze me......I gotta throw up! :-[

Same designer as the Pontiac Aztec? :-?

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Post by jcstokes on 03/21/15 at 14:21:53

Seat height would be a worry for me as well, don't care for the colour but a white version would improve it. love the concept of paint or powder coating after the crap chrome Suzuki puts on our little love machines. It would probably be to dear for me anyway.

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by pgambr on 03/21/15 at 14:58:46

It's just another dual-sport,  here is a gen 1 KLR:

http://twinheadlighternie.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Trans-Wisconsin-ride-July-2012/i-fKHHmz5/1/L/Trans%20Wisconsin%20Ride%20124-L.jpg

The genuine beauty behind the dual-sports is you expect them to look rugged and worn after a couple years.  

Best regards,

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by jcstokes on 03/21/15 at 17:24:37

Interesting, the 730mm seat height works out at 28.740 inches, as opposed to 27.6 inches for a stock S40. I would probably be able to ride it ok but backing it into my garage might be harder.

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by Kris01 on 03/21/15 at 18:30:30


405240525F4C434E450D0 wrote:
Lego ?

;D

My exact thought!  ;D

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by CodyAlanB5 on 03/21/15 at 20:01:42

Being a fan of the Big Ruckus, I think this bike looks AWESOME

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by Art Webb on 03/21/15 at 21:47:52

I like the KLR better  ;D

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by ConradSch on 03/22/15 at 11:11:08

I really liked how the big ruckus had a generator..  wonder if this one does as well..

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by savskad on 03/22/15 at 11:51:26

Probably designed to end up getting customized by the owner. Just my take on it. At least Honda is trying to break away from mainstream.

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/22/15 at 14:23:05

The more I look the better I like it. If I was young and healthy and equipped with slightly longer legs.... but whoever chose the paint scheme must surely own stock in Suzuki...

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by Drestakil on 03/22/15 at 18:00:23

Looks as aerodynamic as a toaster. Wish there was an overhead view, there may be a couple of slots on top.

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by Kris01 on 03/23/15 at 18:20:41


203F393E23241525152D3F33784A0 wrote:
The more I look the better I like it.


I dunno. I keep looking and it's still fugly.

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by Art Webb on 03/24/15 at 15:29:58


6A5C4B5D5A4F4547421F2E0 wrote:
Looks as aerodynamic as a toaster. Wish there was an overhead view, there may be a couple of slots on top.


actually it just looks like a toaster period lol

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike..
Post by Dave on 03/24/15 at 17:38:05


75666063717676140 wrote:
[quote author=6A5C4B5D5A4F4547421F2E0 link=1426954855/0#14 date=1427072423]Looks as aerodynamic as a toaster. Wish there was an overhead view, there may be a couple of slots on top.


actually it just looks like a toaster period lol[/quote]

As cold as it has been.....I might turn the toaster setting to "DARK" if I rode it to work in the morning.

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by Art Webb on 03/24/15 at 19:01:56

Put that way, riding a toaster might actually be tempting  ;D
I am pretty much ok with riding 'ugly' if it works well, tbh

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/25/15 at 09:37:56

My wife asked me what color sheets do I want.
Told her I don't care, typically, I sleep with my eyes closed..
When I'm riding, I FEEL the bike. I feel how it pulls, how it shifts, how it handles and I hear it. Since nearly all of my riding was Other than highway, I didn't need something to run 70+ for hours on end..
Quick enough to be fun, not SO good handling that such a fool as myself would find himself in a sweeping turn at speeds beyond his ability,
All that to say this.

Making choices to satisfy some invisible critics just won't do.
Somehow, I don't think this crowd of rebels and misfits Really needs to be
Told that while we ride we really can't see much of what we ride and what others see has no impact or effect on how riding it feels for me. We who choose the Savage have already stepped well away from allowing what others may think to hold sway over our choices.
Is it ugly? Well, I think they chose poorly on the paint scheme..
The design looks like they set aside the whole idea that a bike should be visually attractive and designed solely with function as the guide.
I dunno all the specifications, the gearing, weight, top speed, price,,
but I just can't help but believe Honda KNOWS it's ugly and they built it anyway.. So, I'm guessing They believe that it has enough positive qualities to make it a marketplace success in spite of its lack of beauty.

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by Art Webb on 03/25/15 at 11:59:09

agreed
at the same time though, it's a common, and true, saying
If when you get off your bike, you don't turn around for a last look (before going in to work, for example) you bought the wrong bike
I sometimes like to just look at a bike, as much as ride it
of course the bike does have a certain 'funtional' look to it
If it can back that up, it'd make up for a lot of ugly  ;D

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by jcstokes on 03/25/15 at 12:08:16

I would be more sympathetic if the black bits were white and the blue bits black, but then I own an S40 and that causes virtual 100% satisfaction. even if I occasionally look at Bolts and W800's/650's

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/25/15 at 12:23:15

Stokes, the Ws are rare in the States. I have a 650. ,
I rather have the Savage for a quick blast across town. If I could only have one, I think I would have the W. Moot point since I don't ride anymore..

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by jcstokes on 03/26/15 at 01:10:35

JOG2, that's a hard one as in the last thirty plus years, I've only ridden a Suzuki GN250 Chinese made and my S40. On Trade Me the NZ equivalent of EBAY there are about four W650'S  advertised at the moment. If you are interested go to www.trademe.co.nz and type in Kawasaki W650 and have a look at what they sell for here. A $NZ is currently worth about 75US cents maybe a bit less. I think I pointed out the current NZ price of a W800, just under $NZ 13000, which is still cheaper or about the same as a base Yamaha Bolt. Current S40 price street legal is about $NZ 8500 from a stealer/whatever.

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/26/15 at 09:19:14

Thanks for the reply.

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by savskad on 03/26/15 at 09:55:51

Well there was a car that was "ugly"...


I think we all know where Honda is going with this...

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by Dave on 03/26/15 at 13:07:00


3D2F383D252F2A4E0 wrote:
Well there was a car that was "ugly"....


Yep....I said that in the 4th post....Pontiac Aztek!

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by savskad on 03/26/15 at 15:22:13


08333E2938342F29323A37285B0 wrote:
[quote author=3D2F383D252F2A4E0 link=1426954855/15#25 date=1427388951]Well there was a car that was "ugly"....


Yep....I said that in the 4th post....Pontiac Aztek!
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Dave,

Yes sir you did, now that I think about it, I remember reading it a few days ago when this thing first popped up. I must've forgotten today when I was posting my last response. Sorry about that.



I remember my dad telling me about how the Aztek was a "design by committee" and he always said none of the guys on the committee had enough balls to speak up and say, "hey this thing is pretty ugly!" because they didn't wanna upset the boss. It's the perfect vehicle for Heisenberg though. I mean, the concept they had for the aztek was pretty cool. Being able to pop a tent out the back of it and all. Maybe Honda have/had some clever concept uses for the bulldog bike.

Just remember, even though the Aztek was mainly design by committee, the Cheif Designer, was in charge of this thing.....

Title: Re: Honda's new "bulldog" concept bike...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/26/15 at 16:05:27

Just proof that people don't bat a thousand...being involved in the creative process is , well, there are no guarantees. My last project, another exercise in Doing just to Do, replacing the horn on a Civic with the horns off of a Taurus, installing a relay, building brackets and wedging the things up between bumper cover and core support, 20+ HOURS of dragging the Taurus up, find out where they hid the horns, figure out how to wire it, all sounds easy,,, but at the end of it that last bracket just had no room,, took almost 4hours on that one piece,, so. Yeah,Aztek stinks, but, everyone who was involved achieved something,,  I JUST got that... Ha! Who says that this internet is a waste of time?

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Post by dhsmithh on 04/02/15 at 14:43:31

hmm interesting enough

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