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Message started by Goirad on 02/26/15 at 11:45:08

Title: Blowing Fuses Left and Right
Post by Goirad on 02/26/15 at 11:45:08

Here is the situation so far:
I have a 2001 savage with 7k miles on it, and a brand new battery that is 2 weeks old, it worked perfectly fine for the last 2 weeks.
Here's what I've gotten so far:

- Battery reads 12.6 volts
- Both 20 Amp fuses are fine
- The bike is in neutral, on, and all the appropriate indicator lights are bright and working
- I hold in the clutch and press the ignition switch
- I watch the neutral light dim while I have the ignition switch pressed, there's no sign of noise or movement from anything
- I then watch the fuse labeled relay evaporate before my very eyes
- I've repeated this procedure twice, and it's the exact same thing both times.

Anyone have any ideas?

Title: Re: Blowing Fuses Left and Right
Post by Dave on 02/26/15 at 11:53:16

Disconnect the cable between the starter and the relay....so that the starter is not being energized when you push the starter button.  The relay should energize and remain calm without blowing any fuses.  If the fuse doesn't blow....then maybe something is wacky with the starter.  

Title: Re: Blowing Fuses Left and Right
Post by Goirad on 02/26/15 at 12:47:46

Thanks for the quick reply Dave.
I disconnected the starter motor and the fuse still blew, which should mean that there is something wrong with the rest of the starter system. Any other ideas to try?

Title: Re: Blowing Fuses Left and Right
Post by Dave on 02/26/15 at 12:57:08

I can only suggest that you keep unplugging things until you find out what is blowing the fuse.

Here is a link to the wiring diagrams in the technical section.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1294779818

Title: Re: Blowing Fuses Left and Right
Post by Trippah on 02/26/15 at 13:10:51

Just to embarrass myself, check out the battery, connections and wires (routing)that might have since melted together.  I always check what I just "Fixed" first and that usually where I find the problem. ;D ;D

Title: Re: Blowing Fuses Left and Right
Post by Dave on 02/26/15 at 13:34:01

Trippah:

You might be on to something.....something might have gotten crossed up when the battery was installed.  Those wires down the front of the battery box are pretty well jammed together - it would be easy to pinch something and short it out in that location.

Title: Re: Blowing Fuses Left and Right
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/26/15 at 16:45:29

If you took the tank off, whatever you've done, go back and look.

Title: Re: Blowing Fuses Left and Right
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 02/27/15 at 05:16:17


645F5245545843455E565B44370 wrote:
Trippah:

You might be on to something.....something might have gotten crossed up when the battery was installed.  Those wires down the front of the battery box are pretty well jammed together - it would be easy to pinch something and short it out in that location.


+1 That's where I'd start

Title: Re: Blowing Fuses Left and Right
Post by Goirad on 02/27/15 at 06:54:16

Update:
I checked all those wires by the battery and they all seem to be intact.
Next up I'm going to take the wiring diagrams and erase everything that depends on the main fuse, and start eliminating whatever is left.

Title: Re: Blowing Fuses Left and Right
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 02/27/15 at 07:26:57

Isolate the starter solenoid from the system. That can certainly blow a main fuse if shorted.

Title: Re: Blowing Fuses Left and Right
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/27/15 at 07:43:45

I'd pull the wire from the start button that goes to the solenoid and check voltage on it when you push the button. If it blows, you're onto it.

Title: Re: Blowing Fuses Left and Right
Post by Goirad on 02/27/15 at 08:40:22

Great news everyone!
The wire bundle coming down from the right hand controls was resting too tight against the metal flanges that hold the top of the engine. The plastic stood no chance against the sharp edge and there was the short. A little electric tape and an old pen grip for reinforcement should solve the problem. After separating the short the engine turned right over.

Thanks everyone for all your help

Title: Re: Blowing Fuses Left and Right
Post by Dave on 02/27/15 at 08:42:07

Ooooh!  I love happy endings! :)

Title: Re: Blowing Fuses Left and Right
Post by Art Webb on 02/27/15 at 09:41:04

Yay!

Title: Re: Blowing Fuses Left and Right
Post by Serowbot on 02/27/15 at 11:14:48

Both my fuses are on the right... :-/...

;D...

Congratulations,.. (I've been holding that remark 'till you got this thing fixed)...
Finally free to let it out...  :P...

Title: Re: Blowing Fuses Left and Right
Post by Goirad on 02/27/15 at 14:07:59

For a second there I didn't get it, Serowbot.


And then I did
;D

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