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Message started by TheNewBee1 on 02/24/15 at 01:01:11

Title: Won't run in Neutral with the kickstart down
Post by TheNewBee1 on 02/24/15 at 01:01:11

Like the title says my ls650 won't run in neutral with the kickstand down. The neutral-light doesn't go on either. I've bought the bike like this and I would like to get is fixed.

The mechanic from the shop told me it was due to false whiring. How do I fix this?

Some pictures and/or video would be nice since I am not a real technical guy. :(

Sorry for the bad english, I am dutch and trying to make my bike roll as good as possible :)

Title: Re: Won't run in Neutral with the kickstart down
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/24/15 at 02:46:45

The neutral wire enters the engine on the right side. It's a single wire. If memory serves, it's blue. That should be a short to ground when it's in neutral, I THINK. For all I know a blown out bulb will cause that problem.
Welcome to the board. We have Russian and Chinese members,too. That so many speak enough English to be able to use this site is amazing..

Title: Re: Won't run in Neutral with the kickstart down
Post by Dave on 02/24/15 at 03:20:23

JOG is correct, the blue wire has a connector up under the fuel tank, and then travels down to the right side of the engine and enter at the bottom of the clutch cover. The neutral switch is a ground, and if you lower the kick stand with the engine in gear the engine spark is switched off to prevent you from riding away in gear. You need to confirm the blue wire provides a grounded circuit when the bike is in neutral. Disconnect the blue wire under the tank and confirm the switch (and wire) is functioning properly to provide a ground. The system will still work if the neutral bulb is burned out.

Here is the link to the wiring diagrams in the technical section.
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1294779818

Title: Re: Won't run in Neutral with the kickstart down
Post by Boofer on 02/24/15 at 06:19:37

New Bee, Unless I've forgotten how it works, I would guess that the blue wire under the tank is ALREADY disconnected. Dave and Justin are correct about troubleshooting, but if I read right the bike runs okay in gear. Anyway, the blue wire and anything it connects to is the place to start.
Also, if you can get a Clymer's Repair Manual (M384-4 for years 1986 to 2007) the photos alone are worth the price. Keep the questions coming. It gets dull around here without problems to solve.
Your English is fine. Glad to have you on an American site dedicated to a Japanese Motorcycle. :)

Title: Re: Won't run in Neutral with the kickstart down
Post by verslagen1 on 02/24/15 at 07:17:40

And if it's not the blue wire, then check the diode on the harness somewhere between the carb and coil.

Title: Re: Won't run in Neutral with the kickstart down
Post by old_rider on 02/24/15 at 09:05:33

For a clymers manual online.... someone from the forum posted this...

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1422728220

Title: Re: Won't run in Neutral with the kickstart down
Post by TheNewBee1 on 02/26/15 at 00:13:07

Thanks you guys! I am going to give it a go this afternoon. Will keep you posted on how it is working out. You've been a great help so far (much more than the dutch forum, they told me to just cut the blue wire :/ )

Since I haven't located the blue wire jet I just downloaded the clymers guide and hoping to figure it out.

Hope to be back with some good news soon!

Title: Re: Won't run in Neutral with the kickstart down
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/26/15 at 00:18:38

The wire enters the clutch cover, at the bottom, near the oil window.