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Message started by Philmh on 02/17/15 at 19:35:02

Title: Electrical Gremlin/ Incompitent Electrician
Post by Philmh on 02/17/15 at 19:35:02

So here I go with the electrical issues. I can turn a wrench but I can't figure out electrical systems. So here I am, bumbling through my electrical system, the best I can. I get a new brake light wired up. Turn on the ignition and..... Its ALIVE! Problem: No brake light, only running light. Turn off ignition, thinking I have the ground wire confused, I switch the brown wire and black/white wire. Turn on ignition and I hear a click. DOH! That wasn't it! Now nothing. No starter, no lights, no nothing! Gotta be a fuse? (hopefully). Thoughts?

Title: Re: Electrical Gremlin/ Incompitent Electrician
Post by Dave on 02/18/15 at 03:14:31

So.....you need to show us the light....and how many wires come out of it. We also need to know what colors the wires are.....and you need to take off the lense and confirm that the bulb is a dual filament bulb, that is meant to be used as a running and brake light.

Chances are you bought a tail light that is only one filament, and the two wires are "power" and "ground".

And yes....you blew a fuse on the second try. It is located on the right side of the bike, just under the seat bottom, by the top of the side panel that is the same color as the tank and fenders.

Title: Re: Electrical Gremlin/ Incompitent Electrician
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/18/15 at 03:46:49

Make sure you have a No kidding BRAKE light. If it's LED, I'm not a good help. But,it's got filaments, make sure that it has 2.
Fuses are in a box under the right thigh, not impossible to get to with the seat on, but easier to find first time..

If you don't have a volt meter,you need to,and a small battery charger...

Heh, I had this open when I went to bed, woke up and replied,,, Dave already had it..

Title: Re: Electrical Gremlin/ Incompitent Electrician
Post by Philmh on 02/18/15 at 04:05:01

Thanks Dave. Thanks Justin. Here is the light. Its the Ryca sold bullet light. Three wires. Red, black, and black/white. It is a dual filament bulb as well. The ground wire came off and I pulled it apart to solder it back on. I am wondering if the base was installed backwards, ie the terminals switched at the base of the light, would it affect the brake light?

Also, can you direct me to a picture of this fuse or a thread already started? Perhaps what is even called as well. This way I will be better educated terminology wise. Nothing is in the original spot anymore. Is it a readily available fuse that can be purchased at an auto parts store? I laugh at my question because there is little I have purchased for the bike that has been.

Title: Re: Electrical Gremlin/ Incompitent Electrician
Post by spearheadss on 02/18/15 at 04:19:25

From Cyclepedia:

http://www.cyclepedia.com/manuals/online/cpp-240/files/LS650-S40_0033fuse.jpg

Title: Re: Electrical Gremlin/ Incompitent Electrician
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/18/15 at 04:23:36

If you don't have a volt meter,you need to get one.

Title: Re: Electrical Gremlin/ Incompitent Electrician
Post by Dave on 02/18/15 at 04:40:07

On the stock bike wiring harness: Brown is the power for the running light, black with white dashes is the ground, and white with black dashes is the brake light.

On the RYCA light....most likely the red is the stop. One would suppose the black wire is the ground - but you need to confirm that by checking with an ohm meter to see if the black wire and the metal housing are connected together. You need to confirm which wire is the ground....and connect that wire to the back wire (with white dashes) in the wiring harness. Then you need to connect one of the other light wires to the brown wiring harness light....so that the dimmer of the two lights comes on. The remaining wire would be the brake light and should be connected to the white wire (with black dashes) in the wiring harness.

Title: Re: Electrical Gremlin/ Incompitent Electrician
Post by Philmh on 02/18/15 at 15:43:08

;D ;D ;DThe Gurus of the Savage Board come through yet again!! ;D ;D ;D

Got home, found the fuse holder, changed out a fuse, connected the ground and went from there. (I knew the ground was the ground because I checked continuity with my NEW VOLT METER [Thanks Justin!!]). Turned the ignition, and.....LET THERE BE LIGHT! Pulled the brake lever, and boom. Look at me and my fancy new brake light!! Pushed the ignition and the engine turned over too.

Once again, I learned a few things and the satisfaction has me beaming brighter than my brake light! I can't thank you guys enough.

Title: Re: Electrical Gremlin/ Incompitent Electrician
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/18/15 at 16:20:10

Dude, hang around, one day it'll be you explaining the How To for a new guy..
Don't think I don't remember being intimidated by the bike, and I have a history, electronics,, Air Force, they forced me,, I was lousy, but learned enough to survive as a copier and cash register repair guy and body work and some mechanical experience on cars, but a Bike? Easy to get shook by something new. You'll be checking and adjusting valves, installing a Verslavy, doing brakes,

If you don't have a tool box, well,