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Title: Front Spoke Measurement Post by paulmarshall on 02/16/15 at 16:25:35 Can anyone who has removed or replaced the front spokes please tell me how long they are? Our spoke angle is 53 Degrees I think so I need them measured like in the green area (L2). I know we have two different lengths so both would be great. http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag91/PaulMarshall1977/unnamed_zps499qheox.jpg |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by paulmarshall on 02/16/15 at 16:43:15 I really need this info because I have ordered a 16 inch rim but silly me cut the original spokes a couple of weeks ago with a angle grinder. :-[ |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by paulmarshall on 02/16/15 at 19:09:22 If someone could go out and measure the spoke in their wheel this too would help. Put a tape measure from the raised part in the middle of the front rim not the dimples and measure to the hub where the furthermost point where the spoke pokes through the hub. Like in the green illustrations. Both the long and shorter spokes please. In millimeters please. I hope this makes sense. |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/16/15 at 19:17:30 Kinda built yerself a bear trap and stomped on it... |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by paulmarshall on 02/16/15 at 22:02:03 Been crunching some numbers and worked out that our front spokes are 18 spokes at 196mm and 18 spokes at 200mm. ;) Feel free to correct me if Im wrong. |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/16/15 at 22:07:35 Suzuki parts department? |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by verslagen1 on 02/16/15 at 22:47:04 I measure 205 from the center of the head to the ID of the rim. |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by paulmarshall on 02/16/15 at 22:50:34 62716667787573717A25140 wrote:
Isnt their two different lengths? And are you measuring to the top ridge or the dimple where the spoke comes out? |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by verslagen1 on 02/16/15 at 23:05:50 both sides appear to be the same length. measured from the center of the visible head to the edge of the rim. |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by paulmarshall on 02/16/15 at 23:17:06 43504746595452505B04350 wrote:
Oh OK thanks for that but that has thrown a small fly in the ointment. Your measurement will be more accurate because you are measuring a actual spoke where as I am centering the hub into the rim without spokes. http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag91/PaulMarshall1977/010_zpsnv3ikmrd.jpg |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by Dave on 02/17/15 at 03:49:39 I ordered front spokes for an 18" Excel rim from Buchanan's. The order form shows the spokes are the same 7-15/16" length (201.6mm), and the bend angle is 70 degrees - however the length of the bend is not the same. The first set of spokes they sent me had the bend identical on all 36 spokes, and the result is that the spokes that go behind and cross over the other spokes would push the flared end of the spoke out and it would not seat properly in the hub. http://i61.tinypic.com/2qta3xh.jpg http://i58.tinypic.com/20p7pk1.jpg I worked with Buchanan's and we got the spokes bent at the correct angles, and it now works fine (The stock spokes for the 19" wheel have the spokes with the long and short bends). You need 18 spokes with the long bend, and 18 spoke with the short bend - the long bend crosses over top of the short bend spokes. http://i59.tinypic.com/311ovbp.jpg I have no idea how to calculate the length you need for a wheel other than 18" diameter. |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by paulmarshall on 02/17/15 at 11:00:11 Dave does the Excel rim have a raised middle on the rim and how high is it? Is that where you measured from? |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by paulmarshall on 02/17/15 at 11:03:12 And Dave where did you measure the length from? In the diagram did you use the Green illustration or the Blue? Because the bend is 70 can you remeasure using the Blue please. I will be able to calculate the difference for a 16 rim. |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by Dave on 02/17/15 at 11:52:46 I have no idea what is green or blue....the diagram does not open on my computer. And I did not measure anything....I listed the length that is shown on my invoice from Buchanan's. I do have a new spoke set for an 18" wheel at home....I can take some photos and measurements of those spokes. Here is the photo of the Excel Rim. |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by paulmarshall on 02/17/15 at 12:00:46 Try this http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag91/PaulMarshall1977/unnamed_zps499qheox.jpg |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by Serowbot on 02/17/15 at 12:03:13 Phhhfft!!! now it shows... :-?... ;)... |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by paulmarshall on 02/17/15 at 12:03:14 This is what the guy from England sent me in a email. "I’m not certain of the size of your original rim or whether it was a drop centre. Your new rim has a drop centre & so the spokes will Need to be a ¼” shorter for the same size rim. If the rim is an inch smaller in diameter than the previous rim then the spokes will be ½” shorter (less ¼”) IE … ¼” shorter. Conversely if the rim we are supplying is 2” larger in diameter, the spokes will be 1” longer (less ¼”) IE ¾” Longer. I hope this makes sense!" |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by paulmarshall on 02/17/15 at 12:04:17 4157405D45505D46320 wrote:
;) |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by Dave on 02/17/15 at 12:38:39 Now I see the diagram...and the 70 angle that Buchanan's lists does not match the diagram...the spokes don't look like they are bent to 70 degrees. The invoice for the rear wheel spokes show they are all the same length of 5-3/4" - then show the angle as both S-80 and L-95 (inner and outer spokes), while it shows the front at 7-15/16" with an angle of M-70. Something is not consistent about that....as the angle sure does appear to be more like the 50 or so that you listed. |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by Dave on 02/17/15 at 17:59:37 Well I measured them....and sure enough the bend angle is 70 degrees, the length is 7-15/16". The short bend is 7mm beyond the bend, and the long one is 9mm beyond the bend. Keep in mind this is for an 18" wheel with a raised center and dimples for the spoke nipples. |
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Title: Re: Front Spoke Measurement Post by paulmarshall on 02/18/15 at 10:57:16 43787562737F646279717C63100 wrote:
Thanks Dave ;) |
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