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Message started by Sterns on 01/18/15 at 12:02:29

Title: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by Sterns on 01/18/15 at 12:02:29

1996 savage with under 12k on it for $1000. It's at a local harley dealer. I assume I will have to do the cam chain tensioner. Even with that in mind, it doesn't seem like a bad buy at all, but want your opinions.

http://www.mikesfamous.com/pre_owned_detail.asp?veh=4065890

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by verslagen1 on 01/18/15 at 12:12:30

looks like a good deal to me.
no dents, pegs not bent... doesn't look like it's been dropped.

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by ryanwilliam on 01/18/15 at 12:50:20

Keep in mind, you'll have to pay dealership fees.  Still, I think it is a very good asking price.

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by MnSpring on 01/18/15 at 15:30:15


Looks good.    Check the date on the rubber!
(5 year old rubber is crap, don't care WHAT the tread looks like.
5 + old rubber is  HARD)

I am just guessing, they took that in on trade, giving someone, 600.00 on ‘trade’,
Where it ‘could be’,  800.00 less, for a, ’cash’ price on the item someone traded for.

So, I would walk in with, 9, 100.00 bills, and say:
“Out the door”.  (Again depending on the rubber)
You know, your gonna have to do some, ’tweaking’ on it when you get it home.

Let them, play with the numbers, however they want.

If they don’t take it, walk out.
Then  AFTER they call YOU.
(If you want it)  go  to 1,000.00 OTD.

But NOT, that day !
Let them call YOU first !

Here, today, that could easily be bought for 8-9.
In 4 months from now, it will sell for 1,200 - 1,400.

Lot of factors. How long has it been there.
How hungry/Smart, is the dealer.
What is the riding, ‘window’, in your area.

Good Luck !

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by Sterns on 01/18/15 at 15:43:03

They wanted 1600, but they posted in on Craigslist for 995. As far as I know they've had it since early December. I'm in ct, so it's supposed to be a good time to buy, but after looking around I really haven't noticed any good deals. I would be fine with 995 if they don't charge me doc fees and if the rubber is old, I will see if I can get the tires at their cost. I don't care either about how much tread is on tires. What I care about is age. I have contacted many sellers before and asked about the tires and they always answered with " the tires are 6 years old but less than 1000 miles" and refuse to adjust price, so frustrating! Lol.

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by MnSpring on 01/18/15 at 16:10:00

Wow, 1,600.00   down to 1,000.00.

Sounds like a OTD Deal at 1,000.00 to me !

Rubber, buy from some place else.
(Or at least check prices from other places)
So you KNOW, if it is a fair deal or not.

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/18/15 at 16:17:38

Walk. In with$800.00 in your wallet and$50.00 in a pocket and be willing to walk away. You can always go back. Try them again... bet that they are not losing any money at nine...

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by MMRanch on 01/18/15 at 20:23:29

Thats like my first one !   :P

Paid $1300.oo for it off ebay , 11years ago.   The muffler had no guts to cover up the rattling valve train , the original rear tire was worn-out at 8500 miles , but it pulled strong and I liked the way it looked.  
At about 14000 miles I put an extension on the cam chain adjuster with a weaker spring inside the adjuster , and put in a new chain.   Then about 42,000 had it apart again to put a 95mm piston in it and the cam chain was still alright.   If I had not filled it with diesel instead of gas  I might still be ridding it today.    
The second one is a S-40 (07) , gave $1500.oo for it two years ago with about 7000 miles.   I kept the back rest from the first one.

I'd try the $900.oo out the door thing befor the end of January   That dealer has a pay roll to make and right now is not selling very much right now , but his sales will pick up again in Feb. and he knows it too.  ;)





Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by old_rider on 01/19/15 at 00:43:28

Yeah, if you get it you will more than likely have to do the cam chain tensioner, and probably the plug on top....and it also looks like it has the vacuum petc0ck on it too.
96'.... KBB says retail at (excellent condition) 1,300 ... trade in is 885... meet them in between if you can.... 950....
Let them know you will have to probably have to replace the cam chain and tensioner ect.....(don't tell them about the verslavy) because of high miles.... check the bolts at the front and back of the head.... see if there is any oil on the threads... if so, the plug will have to be redone.

http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b471/Orphistle/Suzuki%20Savage/svgleak1.jpg

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by Sterns on 01/19/15 at 13:42:59

I talked to a salesman there and they said that it was 995, but raised it to 1695 because they did work on it.  I asked him to check with the service dpt and get back to me.  I explained that these bikes have a faulty mechanical design and if the work has been done, then I don't mind paying more.  He called me back and said that the service manager couldn't tell him what was done and all it says in the computer is service inspection.  He then said, "that's why we raised the price to 1675.  A service check cost $700? ;D

I told him about the cam chain tensioner and he said he will research it and get back to me..............

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by old_rider on 01/19/15 at 19:08:28

When he does get back to you.... tell him your max is $1,100, because unless they tear the halves off the bike, and take the top of the engine they won't know.
And let him know that if he will let it go for the above amount you have cash.
Oh, tell him you researched the price, and even a 96' in excellent condition (no scratches, no rust, no dents, no wear) is only worth $1385, take a copy of KBB with you....then start pointing out all the stuff wrong with it.....

http://www.kbb.com/motorcycles/suzuki/ls650p-savage/1996-suzuki-ls650p-savage/suggestedretailvalue/

If that don't work... walk away... ain't no high mile 96' worth $1675... I got mine with barely over 2k on it 2003 for $1,500.

Then check back with him in a month... if you can wait that long..


Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by old_rider on 01/19/15 at 19:14:37

What area are you in?  The sign on the building is New London CT, is that Connecticut ?
I did a search for new haven area on craigs list... a newer one with only 5k on it... and the guy tells you the mods....including the cam chain tensioner

http://westernmass.craigslist.org/mcy/4812190538.html

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by Sterns on 01/19/15 at 20:25:07

Yea, new London is in Connecticut. My town is near new haven. Thanks for the link.

On another note, what do you guys think of the buell blast?  I want to get a savage, but I have pondered about the blast because they are dirt cheap. Although, I have heard that they aren't reliable and it's hard to get parts.

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by Dave on 01/20/15 at 03:42:45


1D3A2B3C203D4E0 wrote:
Yea, new London is in Connecticut. My town is near new haven. Thanks for the link.

On another note, what do you guys think of the buell blast?  I want to get a savage, but I have pondered about the blast because they are dirt cheap. Although, I have heard that they aren't reliable and it's hard to get parts.



I have never owned a Buell Blast - but I did look into them a bit as I thought they were interesting.  They are a bit primitive and quirky.  They are not quick, they are clumsy shifting bikes, and they are a bit hard to get parts for.....and someone to work on them.  Low seat height, light, nimble - good for riding around town or the back roads, not good for interstate riding.

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/20/15 at 06:48:06

IDK which is a better bike, but if you can find a better bunch of people who will help you with whatever you get,let me know.. I wanna come see.

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by Art Webb on 01/20/15 at 18:20:39

on my rebel forum the consensus is that the Blast is a POS, based on the opinion of some MSF instructors on the site that had them as 'loaner bikes' for the BRC (the bikes of choice for that seen to be the Rebel and the Ninja 250)

Basically HD forced Eric to make these so they'd have 'beginner bikes' to use in their own BRC courses, which included pressure tactics to get you to buy a Hog, of course, and he did it under protest, and put as much thought into it as you would expect someone to who was being pushed into it

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by Flint on 01/20/15 at 19:25:05

You fellows down south are fortunate in the price for a used Suzuki S40.  Last spring my older brother wanted to buy one.  The cheapest we saw was around $4000 used and it was pretty clapped out.

I found the same thing this fall.  $4300 for a 2009.  New out the door was $5900 Canadian which equals $4956 U.S.  Harleys and Sport bikes depreciate real quick here but any dual sport,  Savage/S40, Yamaha XT500's or old British bikes like Vincents or Nortons hold their price well.

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/20/15 at 20:22:21

If you can find a fair deal then you can justify a bus down and a ride home.
Adventure vacation..

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by Dave on 01/23/15 at 09:13:00


534C4A4D50576656665E4C400B390 wrote:
If you can find a fair deal then you can justify a bus down and a ride home.
Adventure vacation..


Yea.....and you would have the added adventure of figuring out how to get the bike back across the border and titled in Canada!

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by Flint on 01/23/15 at 11:05:24

My daughter is finding out about importing a car.  She had lived in California for 14 years and just moved back.  She brought her 2005 Crown Vic back with her as it is in perfect condition, she bought it new in California.  

Nothing but bureacratic hassle from the government.  Crown Vics were all made in Canada  :-?  The world would run a lot smoother with 1/2 the government layed off.

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by zipidachimp on 01/23/15 at 12:48:28

The Last Blast!
http://www.gizmag.com/2010-buell-blast-crushed/12389/   ;D

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by Sterns on 01/23/15 at 16:53:11

Well I bought the savage today. I paid 1450 otd, so about $1200 before tax,reg,etc. . While not the best price, I can't complain about getting a great running bike for such little money. Not having to go to the dmv was also a plus. I didn't here any chatter from the cam chain and the motor sounded really smooth. There was oil on the fins, so the head plug is a must. I will be doing the tensioner as well. Very clean bike, you couldn't tell it was a 96. I'm happy to join the savage community!

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/23/15 at 20:05:33


6D565B4C5D514A4C575F524D3E0 wrote:
[quote author=534C4A4D50576656665E4C400B390 link=1421611349/15#17 date=1421814141]If you can find a fair deal then you can justify a bus down and a ride home.
Adventure vacation..


Yea.....and you would have the added adventure of figuring out how to get the bike back across the border and titled in Canada![/quote]

Ya know,Dave, I never even thought about that.. I don't know if or how or anything about that kinda title changing business.


Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by old_rider on 01/24/15 at 00:26:51


321504130F12610 wrote:
Well I bought the savage today. I paid 1450 otd, so about $1200 before tax,reg,etc. . While not the best price, I can't complain about getting a great running bike for such little money. Not having to go to the dmv was also a plus. I didn't here any chatter from the cam chain and the motor sounded really smooth. There was oil on the fins, so the head plug is a must. I will be doing the tensioner as well. Very clean bike, you couldn't tell it was a 96. I'm happy to join the savage community!


Good job!   These guys can talk you through anything! LOL... i'll throw my 3 cents in now and again....hopefully not stumbling around LOL....
Hope to see your posts on your mods or builds.... :)

Title: Re: Is this a good deal for a savage?
Post by jcstokes on 01/24/15 at 01:04:04

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