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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Mounting a Surf Rack /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1420997821 Message started by philjayny on 01/11/15 at 09:37:00 |
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Title: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by philjayny on 01/11/15 at 09:37:00 Hi all, I've recently been looking into what kind of surfboard mounting system I can use, and it seems the Carver Moped/Scooter Rack ( http://tinyurl.com/n8kpemm ) is the only actual product out there that would allow this. The way it works is by sandwiching one's luggage rack with the two plates, the top one having the surf rack arms attached. First off - I don't have the luggage rack, nor do I plan on getting it as it seems week, and would not acommodate for the above system. So I decided to take a closer look at our rear fender, and it seems I could potentially relocate the rectifier, drill out the two existing holes, and screw in the plate with the surf rack arms directly to the fender without the bottom plate ( I would simply use washers.) I will likely need to use shorter bolts with the bolt "pointing up" for tyre clearance's sake. Similar to this: http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/zzimmjoh/IMG_0072-1.jpg Hoping one of you fellas could point flaws in my idea before I take the plunge! Cheers. |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by verslagen1 on 01/11/15 at 09:55:54 My concern would be from the fact that the side rails don't connect to the frame and don't offer any support. So, adding this rack may tweak the fender to the side. I'd want to test the load on the fender to see if is capable of supporting the load w/out making a pretzel out of the fender. |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by TC on 01/11/15 at 14:11:17 Don't mount it to your fender. The safest way to go is to mount to your frame. I have numerous friends with surf mounts on scooters and motos and you gotta mount it to the frame if you don't want to lose it while driving and/or wreck you bike. Fender mounting would only MAYBE work on a scooter because you probably aren't going over 35mph. |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by verslagen1 on 01/11/15 at 14:27:56 With that being said, the fender mounts to the frame with 4 bolts. Loosen all 4 and remove the upper 2. have a stack of washers on hand. Slip the bracket between the frame and fender. Use the washers to fill in the space between fender and bracket. It'll lower the fender a little, just stiffen the shocks a notch or 2 so it doesn't bottom out. replace the upper 2 bolts and tighten them all. you'll probably want to remove the shocks and jack the bike up to get access to the fender bolts, they're under the fender. also, the bolts have a raised head, you might think about replacing them with button head allens in case of any tire rubbing. |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by philjayny on 01/11/15 at 17:15:46 Thanks guys! TC: That thing isn't rated for speeds above 30mph anyways so I'd avoid highways. (Does that change your opinion on the fender mount at all?) I've seen frame mounts from the same company and others, but only for bicycles. Also, with no sub-frame, not sure where the rear rack would go? Versy: Fair. The board itself is 9lbs tops, though obviously with the wind pushing against such a large surface, that'll put more force on the fender in all kinds of directions.. That said wouldn't the brackets either side provide enough rigidity? I like your fender bolt idea, though not the idea of having to remove the fender! What a pain.. That said, I'm worried I'd get clearance issues what with the rack arms being so low. They can rotate, but only so far.. Thanks for your input, if anything it will have been a fun mental exercise :) Still looking into it though.. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by verslagen1 on 01/11/15 at 19:44:01 554D4C494F445C4B5C250 wrote:
we call 'em side rails, and like I said, they don't connect to anything other than the fender. Quote:
The upper set are just under the seat, so nearly the same height as what you were thinking. |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by TC on 01/11/15 at 22:08:15 TC: That thing isn't rated for speeds above 30mph anyways so I'd avoid highways. (Does that change your opinion on the fender mount at all?) I've seen frame mounts from the same company and others, but only for bicycles. Also, with no sub-frame, not sure where the rear rack would go? Under 30 helps. There won't be much stress on the fender, but Versy's idea sounds pretty slick. Gives you some frame support, but the install process... To frame mount elsewhere you'd have to be creative next to the airbox, or even right under the seat depending on your setup. But your clearances come into play as far as seating, how low the bottom of the rack will be to the ground and type of board you're carrying. Make sure you look into what the rack is made out of too, some of them are real cheap and only for bicycles regardless of what they advertise. A buddy has a mount on his CB175 and his Ruckus, both frame mounted and I've ridden the Ruckus with a board on it. Really solid doing about 40 around the neighborhood. I'll see what I can find out from him. |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by TC on 01/12/15 at 17:59:51 http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Surfboard-Bike-Rack-Shortboard/dp/B002L7YVDW This is the rack my buddy uses. Same brand as the one you were looking at in your first post, but this one can be frame mounted, is cheaper, and looks much sturdier. Good luck man! |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by Serowbot on 01/12/15 at 21:04:53 Well, nobody else is going to say it,... ... and,... you ride a bike,.. and you surf... so you're no stranger to danger... ...but,... I wouldn't attach a sail to my bike... :-?... If you own a car,.. take the car... If don't own a car,... walk... Mostly kidding... I hope you get laid from this... If you do, we want pics... If you don't,... what was the point?... ...and we still want pics.... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by koehlerrk on 01/13/15 at 03:41:30 Yes, we definitely want to see the pics... ;) |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by philjayny on 01/14/15 at 19:32:36 TC - I did look into this one as well. Thing is the Savage isn't that generous with exposed frame other than the front tube which would be an extremely strange place. Will keep looking into this. I'll stick with the subway for the winter season and see what the Spring brings ;D As far as getting laid well.. being in a relationship helps.. I'll check back in if that changes.. ;) |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by TC on 01/14/15 at 21:07:28 True story. Hope you figure it out. I'd love to see the final product too. May have to consider it now that I'm thinking about it. ;) |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by philjayny on 01/26/15 at 17:23:41 UPDATE: Pulled the trigger. It's cold, there's a blizzard, and I need to satiate my surf itch. $40/month to store a board near the beach so figured I'd use this instead and make-up the cash in 3 months! Bought the Carver Surf Rack for ~$130 off Amazon. Let's see how it goes! |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by Dave on 01/27/15 at 03:52:42 574F4E4B4D465E495E270 wrote:
Yikes! $ 40 a month will get you a 10x20 garage in this area....but we are no where near a beach or surf. |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by jachase1980 on 01/27/15 at 12:45:03 fab up a small tow behind and lay it flat. I live at shore see it all the time here. Have seen same person tow his kayak too |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by verslagen1 on 01/27/15 at 13:17:25 deer carriers can be gotten pretty cheaply. good place to start. |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by jachase1980 on 01/27/15 at 13:38:05 http://www.surfboardssandiego.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/What-the-frick.jpg if you got really creative you could make the tongue slide to extend / shorten for different boards or a kayak or canoe |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by TC on 01/27/15 at 17:05:30 Looking forward to the final result! Stoked you went for it. |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by philjayny on 02/03/15 at 20:33:55 Tried to fit between the frame and fender: impossible for more reasons than I care to list. I'm moving forward with the rectifier bolts because it fits so darn perfect there. All I need to do is get some extra hardware to fasten the pillion seat and plate. Only modification needed was to snip some corners into the rear seat "lip." Seat is in dire condition anyways so had no issues doing some light plastic surgery ::) I know I was warned about potential fender warping, but if the fender can hold a pillion, and/or some luggage then I doubt a 10lb board will ruin it. I know the issue is more about the wind resistance/sail effect, but I am thinking of adding a pvc "arm" between the front of the frame and the nose of the board to counter that. I will be testing for alignment after initial test runs before going on any lengthy journey. Couple pics of a test fit: No I won't be using these tiny screws. Plan on getting longer bolts of matching thread and use a locking nut and washer with the bolt threaded from underneath to avoid tyre clearance issues. Also the plate will likely be slid to the right. It was centered for me to mark the seat evenly before cutting into it. http://i.imgur.com/UsvU7oX.jpg?1 Rear wheel's still off because I couldn't be crappity smacked to put it back on after testing fitment between frame and fender.. http://i.imgur.com/kaqrKfQ.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/uA19Mh8.jpg?1 |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by philjayny on 02/08/15 at 19:59:10 Been lazy and surfing so this was done during the week but haven't gotten around to posting.. Finished pics with notes for perpetual savage riding surfers' reference: http://imgur.com/a/BRqNh#0 |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by TC on 02/12/15 at 22:23:27 Bet your itching for the snow to melt and get this thing on the road! Surf was excellent here today! Seems like NY has been getting some really good swell! |
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Title: Re: Mounting a Surf Rack Post by philjayny on 02/16/15 at 08:58:09 Yeah man.. Realistically I don't plan on going anywhere before I feel the road is safe enough to do so since I'm still a relatively new rider, and the winter does wonders to the roads (not!) As far as swell, this weekend was flat or with too much onshore so it sucked, but hoping for some good 3 footers to get as much practice in before the summer/fall! Also seriously considering a trip to Sayulita (Mex.) Until then I'm hoping this will take me as far as NJ and Long beach. |
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