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Title: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by ToYnGrL on 01/01/15 at 17:07:52 Hey Guys, I have a 2011 Savage that a bought brand new. LOVE HER ! No problems...she's all stock...2nd Street bike. I'm up to date on all service, oil changes etc. Recently my gf put leather bags on the back that were too large for the space between "Savvy's" back blinkers. They BOTH broke off. I clipped the housing and taped 'EM up . Two days later my HEADLIGHT stated to intermittently go on and off, and now is OUT. Fuses aren't blown. That's as far as I've gotten. A guy from the local shop said it may be a faulty wiring harness somewhere. He made it sound like a SUPER BIG HEADACHE TO FIND. I have the extended warranty for another 10 months. I'm NOT a mechanically inclined gal, BOOK WISE, I'm tactile....better with PICTURES....Anyway....does the back blinker incident have anything to do with the headlight....I wouldn't think so...but...and where should I start? Oh the " intermittent " in and out of the headlight happened when I turned the handlebars....THANKS IN ADVANCE TOYNGRL~ Central Coast RideHers 2011 SHOWROOM STOCK SAVAGE " my OTHER ride is a Surfboard...my OTHER surfboard is a SAVAGE" |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by 1st2know on 01/01/15 at 18:02:50 You probably want to repair the rear blinkers first - you know they're broken, if they're fixed, then they're probably not the issue. Take the seat off and inspect the wires to the blinkers - they run along the two black frame tubes going back. Ready to take the tank off? Under the tank, towards the front, on the frame, there are two wiring blocks - one on the left, one on the right - these account for most wires going from the frame to the fork. You want to separate both of those blocks and reseat them to make sure they're connected. |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by verslagen1 on 01/01/15 at 18:21:58 If you have a broken wire, it's going to be where the wiring goes into the headlight. So, remove the headlight and check the wiring behind it. While you're at it... check the bulb. |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by HondaLavis on 01/01/15 at 21:47:21 First off, WELCOME! :D Your title also mentions the horn, but I didn't see anything about it in your post. Is that a problem as well? Being electrical, this CAN be a headache, but it doesn't have to be. Go about it slowly, methodically. I wouldn't expect the turn signal issue to be related to your headlight at all. Honestly with such a young bike I would EXPECT it to be something simple like a loose connector. However what we expect and reality often don't meet... If I was having this problem I would check the electrical connector under the gas tank. This means removing the seat - 3 bolts, then draining the gas tank, removing the 2 bolts mounting the tank to the frame, and assuming you have a stock petcock you'd do well to remove the petcock rather than fight it through the frame. Pull that off, and lift your tank up. You'll see a big square electrical connector. Make sure it's snug and latched; this being loose has cause several intermittent problems in the past. You said extended warranty; do you have to pay anything for the shop to fix it? If you can't find the problem easily, you may consider letting them chase their tales a bit. :P |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by Philmh on 01/01/15 at 22:33:14 Welcome! This site is a huge step in learning how to fix the bike yourself. I personally can't believe all the help I have received and what I was able to do on my own! If you have the extended warranty, will working on it yourself void it? Be sure to check the agreement before removing anything. Some shops don't and won't get into someone elses repair work in progress. |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by Demin on 01/02/15 at 05:26:25 I would check the left handlebar connector,under the tank.That controls headlight,turn and horn.They are known to come unplugged. |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by Steve H on 01/02/15 at 05:33:42 Welcome! There is a lot of knowledge out here about these bikes and everyone is glad to help if someone has a problem. Every shortcoming, and there aren't many, of the bike has been identified and there is a fix for them all thanks to the great folks here. I had the lights go out on me like that before. It was the connector block under the front of the gas tank. I pulled it and plugged it back in, everything worked again. Mine also killed the engine when the lights went out. Then when I had the time, I pulled the connector and cleaned the contacts, put some dielectric grease in it and reassembled. No problem since then. I hope it turns out to be that simple for you. I have heard of broken or skinned wires going into the headlight also. If that's the problem, you might have to get a VOM and trace out which wire doesn't get power when you turn. Good luck. Post if you have any questions or problems, someone will answer. The people here can talk you through anything. Just be patient and answer their questions. |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by ToYnGrL on 01/04/15 at 15:57:25 Wow. THANK YOU ALL so much for your SURPRISINGLY easy to understand replies to my wiring issue! ( hate to say it ,but I'm just not use to having guys speak to me in a language I don't have to translate somehow?....THANKFULLY we are all just BIKERS HERE! ;) The "tail chasing" advice for the warranty is probably the route I will be going to go AFTER I chk the connections ,BUT BEFORE I get under the gas tank.....and yes the horn is out also. I DO have the SUZUKI SERVICE MANUAL ( which I stupidly paid 150$ for) it might as well BE in Japanese! Hey anyone want a INEXPENSIVE SERVICE BOOK...TRADE A FOR A LEFT BLINKER HOUSING...LOL yeah I know there's a forum for :) I WILL DEFINATLEY go to the tech section to find out what a PETCOCK is ....right after I get up from R.O.F.A.L.M.A.O! ( cumom...I'm STILL A CHICK! It's FUNNY!) Thanks again! Keep ya posted[ch128536] |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by Dave on 01/04/15 at 16:41:45 If nothing on the left handlebar electric control works (horn, headlight, turn signals)....then I would suspect the harness plug has just come loose. You might be able to wiggle a hand in between the tank and frame and wiggle the connector. It will be on the left hand side of the bike, very near where the fuel tank mount on the front inside of the tank is located. |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by Skiprrdog on 01/04/15 at 17:50:47 Welcome to the forum and nice bike! Actually we technical types refer to the petcock as 'the fuel thingy under the tank'. Allow me to go all Mr. know-it-all here; the pet in petcock refers to petrol, and the second part refers to a UK term, 'stopcock' (which actually sounds kind of funny all by itself) ::) |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/04/15 at 18:44:47 You're gonna be glad you have the manual. It's gonna make sense after a while. |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by pgambr on 01/05/15 at 18:47:26 I have had the same problem with my headlight, horn, and turn signals. They have been working intermittently for a long while now. Today, with the help of a buddy who is a seasoned mechanic I should have them fix permanently. When sitting on the bike, under the tank on the right hand side we had to cut, splice, and weather pac three wires around the bracket where they join. Some of the connectors were corroded; although, I wouldn’t have thought we would have to fix three wires. One was the orange, one was orange with a red stripe, and I didn’t watch him do the last. I also had a problem in the dimmer switch by the left hand controls. I don’t quite understand how those wires affect everything because they go to the right hand controls. It was interesting watching him work, he followed the wiring diagram like I would read a kids book. But it is working now. :) Best regards, |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by ToYnGrL on 03/04/15 at 16:06:17 Hey Guys! Well after letting Savvy sit for a few , I have her apart....seat off...tank off ...and with the help off my Brother am checking all the things suggested here on the Forum....NO DICE...the VOM has power into the fuse box then we start to get sketchy ..we went under the left handle grip etc...blinkers...front ones still have power so does license plate light....suggestions? I ordered two sets of new CHROME BLINKERS so I'm waiting on those.... |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by LS650THUMPER on 03/09/15 at 17:35:28 I have a '05....With bike running, I have noticed my headlight and front running lights will go out when I turn the handle bars and start to ride. If I wiggle the wiring under the right side of tank the lights will come back on.... Seems like the connection must be corroded or something like that. The wiring looks like it heads to the right grip control. Any info/ideas welcome. Ty all. 8-) |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by ToYnGrL on 03/10/15 at 15:05:33 Ok! We found the culprit of my issue! After NOT finding ANY corrosion, loose connections and getting power EVERYWHERE!.....my Brother does what I've seen MOST GUYS DO when something doesn't work...( no offense guys ;) he started "tapping" on stuff...sure as nuts things stated to come alive! Wouldn't ya know it, I can't find my shop manual! So we took a pic. What is this thing....AND IT STILL IS INTERMITTENT! :'( So. Needless to say Savvy still sits. I'm SURE this is warranty covered tho! |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by Dave on 03/10/15 at 15:11:56 Evidently your camera isn't working either....I don't seen any photo. |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by pgambr on 03/10/15 at 15:16:01 5B44212227435F425A475245170 wrote:
I had the same problem till my lights quit working all together. I had to cut / splice 3 wires so they would by-pass the connector. I shrink wrapped them as well. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by ToYnGrL on 03/10/15 at 15:16:41 Yeah I know! I got the file on screen....but no dice on the attach and upload...fricken iPad! The pic is of a silver cylinder barrel thing that kinda looks like a top hat...sit in the empty "V" space under the seat ...the innition is just to the left on the outside if yr sitting on the bike |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by verslagen1 on 03/10/15 at 15:22:16 only silver hat thing I know of under the seat is the starter relay, but that should have a rubber beanie on it. Or at least some big wires coming out of it. or did they add a tip over switch? |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by ToYnGrL on 03/10/15 at 15:47:52 [img][/img] here's the pic....( duh, I went to the FORUMS how to post a pic). I'm learning! |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by ToYnGrL on 03/10/15 at 15:49:06 Geez...or NOT!!! I'll try something else! |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by jcstokes on 03/10/15 at 16:44:04 You may need to crop your picture to get the correct file size for posting here, file size is just over 2mb from memory, but I'm frequently wrong. |
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Title: Starter relay Post by ToYnGrL on 03/10/15 at 17:00:36 Thanks, but im pretty sure its cuz im on an iPad.....it doesnt DO normal PC stuff...everything is backwards. No mouse / keyboard functions. As far as the Top Hat looking thing to the right of the ignition under the seat, LOGIC tells me it IS the starter relay....we took the wires off , cleaned em, put back and the horn , headlight and brake light worked ONLY WHEN I TURNED TO THE RIGHT....Also before we did the wiggle n tap routine there was no " click" sound when turning the key on/off / park...after we did all the "dinking" it would click when the key engaged the engine LIKE IT SHOULD."..After all was said and done tho and the seat was put back etc....no power to that circut..still have blinkers and flashers and tank lights and tail lights.... ::) TnG |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by old_rider on 03/10/15 at 22:20:39 Going back to this post..... if you lose everything turning right... check any connection under the tank that pulls the cables from either handlebar. The headlight, horn and blinker are on the left, if you turn your bike to the right doesn't it stretch the cable and possibly unplug or jiggle the connections to it..?? That's my two cents... 142F2235242833352E262B34470 wrote:
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by ToYnGrL on 03/12/15 at 08:17:46 Tried that. Took the grip cover off , took the tank off , seat off, followed all the connections and wires throughout and connector, disconnected where appropriate and cleaned w/ a tiny little dental brush...I ALMOST, undid the FACTORY TAPE and was going to start looking for frayed wire, HOWEVER, THATS when my Bro did the tap' nothing on the STARTER RELAY and the HEADLIGHT, etc....stated to work.....only problem only worked if I was TURNING RIGHT! Then once we took in out, cleaned it off, it was intermittent AT BEST. THEN, once back in and all the seat etc back on....circuit was dead again.....My question AT THIS POINTIS....why would the STARTER RELAY affect that circut, and also ...should I take it to the SUZUKI DEALER AND USE MY WARRANTY, which mind you , I can't TELL THEM I've been dinking around under there, so my bike MAY BE GONE A WHILE. As I understand it, bike gear heads don't make squat on warranty work, so there isn't gonna be a real HURRY TO DO IT. OR should I just order a new relay? DISCUSS! ::) T&G |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by ToYnGrL on 03/12/15 at 08:19:21 Oh! And my TURN SIGNALS WORK! :D T&G |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by Dave on 03/13/15 at 08:35:02 If you have repaired the broken turn signal, and you have a warranty...take the bike in and get it fixed. You might explain that turning the bars helps - but let them work on it a bit and see how it goes. Even if they have it for a little while....you can't ride it now.....so the end result is the same. |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by ToYnGrL on 03/13/15 at 13:19:26 True Dat! Take n Her in on Monday! Thanks everyone for your input! Keep ta posted! T&G |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by LS650THUMPER on 07/08/15 at 19:17:43 Ok found out my headlight, turn signal, rough running issue was a LOOSE NEGATIVE BATTERY CONNECTION.... With a twist of the screw driver ...problem solved. Check yours. Maybe that simple. Best wishes. 8-) |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by chzeckmate on 07/08/15 at 22:34:46 417A4C7B526759150 wrote:
For future reference, you can load your photo onto photobucket.com or wherever and you can just paste the link for the photo in your posts. |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by Sonny on 07/09/15 at 01:14:08 I think the metallic orange and black is a particularly good looking factory finish, and probably helps with visibility as well. Having been here about a month, I can tell you this is a great forum and resource. Read the stuff in the Tech Section, run search terms in the search box, and it is amazing how almost any issue with the bike has been worked out, worked around, cheap mods developed and otherwise dealt with. It takes a while to figure out how to look and where to look for info, but wow, it's in this site. And gradually you end up with a very good running, dialed in bike, and you know more about it than many dealerships. Or let's say their mechanics may be factory trained but you know all this other shade tree folk know-how that really helps, saves money, makes the bike "yours." In Rubber Side Down, read and do the "Things every Savage Newb Should Know" thread. Read the tips, take some time, try things. Good times. And one step at a time, a much better motorcycle... |
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Title: Re: SUPERnew NEWBIE- No Headlight- Horn-fuses ok Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/09/15 at 07:13:21 Or let's say their mechanics may be factory trained. We've seen at least two engines destroyed by dealership mechanics just doing oil changes, |
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