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Message started by ToesNose on 12/01/14 at 05:45:04

Title: Rear end mock up
Post by ToesNose on 12/01/14 at 05:45:04

So I'm starting to get my parts together to finish off the rear end. I've decided to use the full rear fender that I acquired which is loosely mocked up on the bike in the pic, then I cut and paste a solo saddle on it. I'll be cutting 3/4" off the front of the fender so that the tail isn't so far down on the back of the rear tire when mounted. I'm going to mount the front of the fender to the swing arm and then have fender struts for the back. In order to make it a bit less bobberish I'm going to make a luggage rack coming off the seat mount that will hover over the rear fender and then I can use a pillion pad as a passenger's seat directly on the luggage rack.

Any thoughts or recommendations are always welcome ;)

Title: Re: Rear end mock up
Post by Serowbot on 12/01/14 at 14:36:11

I'd take 2 or 3" inches off the rear one... the front fender looks super!...

Luggage rack sounds cool... I'm not sure it will support a person suspended off the rear frame tubes though...

Nice looking classic in the works... ;)...

Title: Re: Rear end mock up
Post by Dave on 12/01/14 at 18:35:30

I'm being picky....but to me the back looks too small for the front. The front of the bike is just too tall for what is going on in the back.

An 18" rear wheel would improve the looks a bunch.

Something like this....where the top of the front and rear fenders are at the same elevation and the wheels are about the same size.

http://i58.tinypic.com/4hxr93.jpg

Title: Re: Rear end mock up
Post by gizzo on 12/02/14 at 01:03:37

If you took a 40- 45 degree line up from the back axle, about where you have the line for the rear strut, I think that would be a good place to finish the back guard. Some soft panniers back there would help fill in the space (have to find some way of mounting them) and look nice. That's a cool look: Is similar to a RE Bullet, in a good way.

Title: Re: Rear end mock up
Post by Blinky-FSO on 12/02/14 at 06:18:54

Toes,
To borrow a line from Billy Crystal, the mock up "Looks Marvelous"!

Have you worked out the placement of brake light and license plate yet? With the planned luggage rack you should have some room to mount it on the back of the rack.

Nice to see a non-cafe, non-bobber project.

Good hunting

Title: Re: Rear end mock up
Post by engineer on 12/02/14 at 06:31:59

Your work looks very good. Mounting the fender to the swing arm is a creative idea and eliminates tires rubbing on the fender bolts but you are increasing the weight of metal bouncing around along with the wheel.

My personal preference would be a subframe. A subframe is the easiest solution for mounting bags and rear luggage racks. And while a subframe is there it might as well provide a mount for the fender. A stationary rear fender makes a handy and stable place to mount tail lights, electronics etc. And this bike could easily start developing the look of a classic British bike of the fifties or sixties. Anyway it looks like a great project.

Title: Re: Rear end mock up
Post by ToesNose on 12/03/14 at 04:53:59

Thanks for the comments and suggestions guys ;)

I'm planning on doing the luggage rack similar to the current Royal Enfield C5 frame supported rack, this will tie it directly into the frame at four points and make it strong enough for a passenger pillion seat too.
http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy206/bcrx2/Motorcycles/C5rearseatsubframe_zpsdd5ae37c.jpg

As for the rear fender even though it is a full fender and metal it is extremely light, it is a thin shaped sheet metal which won't be too heavy even with the struts and frame rails. So it will have a sub frame just on the exterior, again similar to the RE Bullets. And I think removing around 4" off the front will bring the rear tip into a much more aesthetically pleasing spot.

As for the lights tail light on the rear of the fender which I already have a cool light weight one, and possibly eliminate the turn signals entirely or possibly mount the rear signals tied in to the luggage rack or top shock mounts. I'll see once I have it sorted out and see which way will work best with not being in the passenger's way.