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Message started by stewmills on 11/02/14 at 21:08:29

Title: New Family Member
Post by stewmills on 11/02/14 at 21:08:29

1985 Honda ATC 70.  $80!   8-)

Runs good but I have a few proactive to-do items
- Tires need patching
- Needs a new plug wire
- New petcock
- Seat recovered
- Good bath

Had one exactly like it when I was 10 years old. Couldn't pass it up.

Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by Pine on 11/04/14 at 06:59:05

Wow been a long time since I saw one of those.
Congratz!

Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by MMRanch on 11/04/14 at 07:37:41

That looks like a "Lot of Fun" machine !   :D     For the price you got it for you can't go wrong.   Thats the same motor the Chinese have copied on so many of there toys , I've had a couple of them , 100cc dirt bike(4speed) and a 110cc FourWheeler (3 speed/Rev.) both of them have been "Tough-as-nails" type of machines.  

enjoy !  8-)


Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by Tocsik on 11/04/14 at 08:06:58

Sweet!  Those were all over the place when I was growing up in Lakeside, CA.  Was even riding one in "the sand pits" with my jaw still wired shut from a motorcycle accident  8-).  My folks woulda killed me, had they known.

Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by stewmills on 11/04/14 at 08:26:34

Yeah, looking forward to having it around. Been looking for a mule (the motor driven kind, not the hairy one you feed) or a decent sized used 4 wheeler to work around the property and pull my small utility trailer and I came across this. Until I can find an affordable bigger ATV/UTV, this will be perfect to ride to the mailbox, down to the creek, garden, shop, etc.  and around the property when I just feel like acting up.

I told my wife I was reliving my childhood, and she quickly responded with "you never quit!"  True...40 years old and still a kid at heart.

Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by Steve H on 11/04/14 at 20:46:46

Just be careful of the turns.  They fall over easy.  That was the reason they banned the sale of new ones and why we now have 4-wheelers.

Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by verslagen1 on 11/04/14 at 20:56:35

My 90 yo dad picked up a 250
I think I've ridden it more than he has   ;D

Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by MMRanch on 11/05/14 at 00:26:46

I got one of the china 250 cc four wheelers a couple years back .   It came with a 428 chain and misaligned sprockets.   The chain wouldn't stay on under tork.   After manufacturing some swing-arm bushings and refitting a size 530 chain/sprockets to it , its been OK.    Only paid $1150.oo for it new in the crate delivered to the door.  Then a year later I bought a older Kawasaki Bayou for my son to ride (the 110 was getting to small).   The Kawasaki is a work-horse of a machine , better engineered and better materials. They made them for a lot of years and they range from 220cc to 250cc's .   But , good luck on finding one of them !  ;)


Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by AlfromNH on 11/05/14 at 11:18:20

My best friend growing up had an atc90 which I rode every chance I got. Then when I was stationed in southern California I went to a friends house for Thanksgiving up in San Luis Obispo and we rented some of them to ride the sand dunes on the beach. That was probably the best Thanksgiving I've ever had. A lot of drinking. I think we might have had some turkey too (kinda fuzzy memory about that part).

Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by Dave on 11/05/14 at 11:24:24


74767A766578262724272127170 wrote:
A lot of drinking. I think we might have had some turkey too (kinda fuzzy memory about that part).


I didn't know Turkey could have a negative affect on your memory? :o

Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by Tocsik on 11/05/14 at 11:49:00


58636E7968647F79626A67780B0 wrote:
[quote author=74767A766578262724272127170 link=1414991310/0#8 date=1415215100] A lot of drinking. I think we might have had some turkey too (kinda fuzzy memory about that part).


I didn't know Turkey could have a negative affect on your memory? :o[/quote]

Yeah, it's all the L-triptophan   ;)

Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by stewmills on 11/06/14 at 08:19:00

Ok team...I am cleaning up the trike and the muffler is intact but pretty well rusted on the outside and is just unsightly.  

Considering this is not a show quality project, what is the best way to remove the rust from the outside and make the muffler look fair?  I am considering just washing it with a good de-greaser and light scrubbing as I am worried that being too aggressive may compromise the muffler if there are any really thin spots.

After cleaning, I am thinking of just shooting it with a coat of black high-temp header paint from the auto parts store and letting it be what it is.  Not trying to make it look factory new, just a good cleaning and prevent any further rust/corrosion.

Sound like a reasonable approach?


Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by Tocsik on 11/06/14 at 08:25:41

You could try regular coke and crumpled aluminum foil supposed to work great for surface rust.  Or just put on a Supertrapp slip on. That's what everyone ran when I was a kid

Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by stewmills on 11/06/14 at 08:51:46

Thought about that, but note that it's not a chrome muffler...it apparently came flat black, not chrome so I don't know if that still works on non-chrome?

I do have a small welder and basic welding skills, so I could fabricate a new one if I knew what muffler to get and had all the parts...I just need to minimize my investment. If I knew where to get one for next to free I'd be willing to give it a shot.

Otherwise, scrub and paint will be in my future.  :P

Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by Arnold on 11/06/14 at 12:41:24

Did you scout eBay for spare parts? Great deal you got, was it a yard sale?

Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by Dave on 11/06/14 at 13:12:47

The metal on the muffler and header pipes is pretty thick - I would be surprised if you would have holes or this spots.

The only way to get new paint to stick over rust - is take it off, sandblast it, clean it off with lacquer thinner or acetone, then spray it with high temperature exhaust paint like VHT.  You have to cure it properly with slow heating....or better yet in the oven.  On things I can't get in the oven I let them sit in the sun for a day or two - they can get really hot sitting in the direct sun in the summer.  Then once installed I start it for only about 30 seconds and then let it cool, and repeat that many times and let it run just a bit longer each time.

If you don't get the rust off down to the clean metal - the paint won't last.

Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by stewmills on 11/06/14 at 13:27:04


5742595A5A53425344360 wrote:
Did you scout eBay for spare parts? Great deal you got, was it a yard sale?


Guy that has a fixer-upper shop was was cleaning up floor space and it was on his craigslist ad as one of the items he wanted moved.  I quickly moved it ;)

I have picked up several parts off ebay, just little things here and there. It's not important enough to me to spend the money on a muffler and other big ticket items.  I'm just trying to rehab what's there since all I am doing is using it around the property to get from point A to B. We don't have a mule/gator or one of those other fancy things.

Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by stewmills on 11/06/14 at 13:31:10


02393423323E252338303D22510 wrote:
If you don't get the rust off down to the clean metal - the paint won't last.


Thanks Dave.  I am in fact looking at the VHT Flame Proof spray from Adv Auto.  I'll maybe get into taking it off for a good initial inspection this weekend.  

Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by stewmills on 11/07/14 at 13:13:16


152E2334252932342F272A35460 wrote:
If you don't get the rust off down to the clean metal - the paint won't last.


Dave,

Whatcha think about this stuff versus the VHT that you have to bake, etc.  I'm not looking for show quality, just a little cheap protection.  I am thinking of a once over with some naval jelly (I don't have a sand blaster and don't wanna scrub 'til my fingers bleed), shoot a coat or two of this stuff on, and get her back on three wheels!

Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by Dave on 11/07/14 at 18:00:15

My favorite stuff is the ceramic 2000 degree stuff.

Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by stewmills on 11/07/14 at 21:18:44


774C4156474B50564D454857240 wrote:
My favorite stuff is the ceramic 2000 degree stuff.


so if i want a so so job, won't the 1200 degree stuff hold up for maybe a hear or so at least?

Title: Re: New Family Member
Post by stewmills on 11/15/14 at 16:07:29

i got little red back together and on wheels and running today. need a float bowl gasket and some fine tuning, but otherwise she's a pretty fun little ride.

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